Stalking Your eBay Seller Probably Not A Good Idea
from the just-saying... dept
Hey, not every transaction on eBay works out the way the buyer and seller hoped. There are ways to deal with that in a civilized manner... and that probably doesn't include showing up at the seller's house with a gun (the gun was left in the car, he didn't take it out) and angrily demanding your money back... especially when they already offered to send you your money back in the mail. However, that is apparently what happened. The buyer as so angry over the quality of a set of glasses that despite the promise to refund his money, the guy drove from Pennsylvania to Kentucky to demand $100 (the glasses had been sold for $59). The guy was later arrested and acquitted, but turned around and sued saying that his rights were violated. The court has mostly disagreed, other than to say that the police might not have had probable cause to arrest him in the first place.
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then again, ebay *is* a safe harbor for criminals. They don't care if you've been ripped off for anything less than $500.
There are just too many asshats on ebay these days anyway. I sold an iPod recently and the guy paid on Sunday and was all pissed off when the item didn't arrive on Tuesday. I shipped it UPS ground, like the auction said (he was on the other side of the country) and he had the balls to say that *I* should pay the difference for 2nd day air. What an ass.
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Ebay sucks
Too many weird psychos gravitate there. Too risky to do business.
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IT IS GETTING SO BAD THAT I BELIVE EBAY WILL SEE A LARGE CORP. OPEN A RIVAL SITE AND TAKE A LARGE PORTION OF THEIR USERS. EBAY 'S POLICIES MAKE IT SO EASY FOR SHADY DISHONEST PEOPLE TO MISREPRESENT, DEFRAUD , AND STEAL. AND THEY DO !!
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Selling is not such a problem.. You try doing 200 transactions BUYING and see how you feel after that.. ..
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All these talks about how great they are, id love to get into their "educational" courses and find out about their customer services. Even as a powerseller, they promised they will respond quicker than regular ebayers. What do they do? Forward my emails to safeharbour and waited another 7 days, my email still havent been answered.
I have a 400+ fb score, powerseller, and I had $1500+ going each week. Im not that high yet, who cared anyways
i live an hour away from their headquarters. Id like to file a class action lawsuit or get our stories on air. Ebay may think their "APPLE" right now but I hope when the story airs "MICROSOFT" will kick their butt. The real problem is, that they dont have enough competition.I hope someone will be the next Ebay. Investors, you can do it. all they really need is a better customer support
Email FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION. Why do we have to follow their rules and they don't promise us what we're suppose to get? I'd love to see someone generate a fb system for ebay. Id give them a HUGE negative
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lawsuit-if i get enough people emailing me ill try to find a CONTIGENCY lawyer, who'll only take in our wins, and if he loses he won't get any money. But we'll have to get enough people for them to accept our case
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On July 16th, 2005 Dwayne Schimke, ebay user ‘Turnedtwo’ contacted me about a bike I was selling on eBay. He emailed saying that he wanted to come to my home and pick up the bike. I have clearly stated in all of my auctions that I do not allow people to pick up items. He admits himself that he ‘didn’t read the whole auction’ After a few emails were exchanged I told him I had blocked him from bidding, and asked him not to email me anymore. He was offended that I forbid him to bid on my auction, and continued to email me several more times after I had asked him to stop emailing me. Then I called his home, I used some choice words and told him to stop emailing me.
After that, he did not email me anymore and I did not email him or call him anymore. I thought this was the end of it. Then a few months later Bret Shipp from WFAA shows up at my home and starts asking questions about the confrontation and about Cindy
Burleson.
Once I heard the name Cindy Burleson, it became clear why the reporter was there.
Cindy Burleson and Lisa Taylor have been harassing me and my family for almost two years now. She goes by eBay user IDs : lavinder17@hotmail.com , fireyredhead1960, cindysilver2004, curtain_climbers, officerfredfw
They have done everything they can think of to ruin my business, my reputation, and basically my life. They have accused me of anything they could think of, and have reported me to anyone they could come up with in an attempt to reek some sort of revenge against me and have me kicked off of eBay.
I was first contacted by Cindy Burleson in Feb. 2004. She had won one of my auctions for $1.50. She told me she was going to my house and pick up the item. I told her I do not let anyone from the internet come to my house. She insisted that she knew where I lived, and she was going to come over. She got really mad that I refused to allow her in my home. She began accusing me of bidding on my own auctions. The auction had started for $1, so she was accusing me of committing fraud to gain 50 cents ! She reported this to eBay, and emailed my customers with this ridiculous claim.
She then started calling me, and emailing obsessively, then she got her daughter, her boyfriend, and her friends to email me. I have received well over 1,000 emails from her and her friends/family. I got over 500 from them in one day alone. I did call her quite a few times to try to get her to stop, I threatened legal action, she just kept emailing and calling. I gave up, and stopped responding to her harassment in February 2004 and changed my phone number to stop her calls. That is when the real horror began. She is on a mission to do everything she can to effect my life, my business, and my family.
She took one of my emails to her and changed it to say that I was coming to kill her. She sent it to eBay so that they would cancel my account. I had a copy of the original email with the time, date, and ID numbers. I was able to prove to eBay that I did not do this, and they eventually reinstated my account. Meanwhile I was suspended for 30 days with no income because of this lie.
After all of these false allegations from Cindy and her daughter I began to suspect they were the ones up to no good on eBay, so I started to research her accounts and I found out Cindy would list items (such as Tiffany jewelry) and Lisa would bid against other bidders on the items to drive the price up! She had accused me of this when her and her daughter were the ones really doing it ! I showed eBay and eBay suspended the accounts. Neither Cindy Burleson or Lisa Taylor have been allowed on eBay since that time.
Cindy and Lisa both knew it was me who reported them and it only fueled their hatred towards me. Needless to say the story did not end there.
She handed out my home address and phone number to everyone she knows. They then started calling and driving by my house (then would call and/or email to say they had driven by) I filed a police report with the Johnson County Sheriff after they came by late one night in May 2004. I thought it would end after that but the worst was yet to come.
The 10news story states I was arrested for "harassment" and shows the mug shot from that ‘most recent’ arrest. The only reason I was arrested for harassment was because on 3-15-2004 Cindy Burleson filed a false police report against me with the Grand Prairie Texas police department. Apparently her story did not hold water, so action was not taken by the police. The following week 3-22-2004, Lisa goes back to Grand Prairie Texas police department and tells them a different story (someone must have told them their first report did not do it and what they would have to say in order for the Grand Prairie police to take action). A warrant was issued for me after the second report. I obtained copies of the 2 conflicting police reports and there is absolutely no mention of any ‘death threat’ in either of the 2 reports. In fact the reports say I had called 5 times, not the 30-40 she is claiming now. The strangest part of the 2 conflicting reports is that they were both taken by the same police officer. This is a matter of public record and can be verified by anyone through the Grand Prairie Police Department.
Now I ask you, if you were the police officer who took the initial report and knew full well it was false, why would you accept a second report with a different story from the same 2 people and allow them to use different names and addresses, but the same phone numbers ? Not to mention the fact that neither Cindy, her daughter, nor I resided in or around Grand Prairie at all.
Bret Shipp of WFAA was advised of all of this, but he made absolutely no mention of these facts I provided him with in the story they did on me. I guess the truth did not make for a ‘juicy’ story in Bret’s eyes.
I had no idea I even had a warrant for this until the night I was pulled over in my hometown of Cleburne a couple days after Christmas. I spent 5 days (including New Years Eve!) in jail before I could come up with the $5,000 bond they put on me ! Once the DA looked into the matter my bond was refunded in full and no charges were filed. I still spent 5 days in jail because of this woman's lies !
She has continued to harass me and my family. She said that she has been ‘terrorized’ but I have not emailed, called or initiated any contact with her since Feb. 2004. She and her daughter have continued this for almost 2 years now. Every so often I get some kind of strange email message from her. She tells me she likes my house, my car, my truck, and my wife. She has sent emails to my wife stating she has had sex with me in an effort to have my wife think I cheated on her. Both her and her daughter send me emails asking if I am having a nice day and that they love me, stuff like hugs and kisses and such. She even ran a criminal background check on me, got all of my personal information, then emailed to tell me she had this information. She emailed me in July 2005 saying she had driven by my house and saw me smoking in the front yard. She told me how ‘white trash’ she thought that was.
Now I ask you, if someone is harassing and ‘terrorizing’ you, why on earth would you be emailing them to antagonize them and drive by their home which is more than an hour away?
Cindy was frustrated that I was not responding to her emails and phone calls and proceeded to involve the Media and tell them the same bogus story she told eBay about me threatening her life. In fact, I found out about this whole ‘Ebay Bully’ story from HER!! She emailed me to show me what she had done.
After the 10news story aired I started receiving many emails from irate eBay users cussing me out left and right. I was lead into numerous chat forums and discussion boards which were discussing this ‘Ebay Bully’ story and even going as far as posting satellite images of my neighborhood and specifically pointing out my house on the image! Then eBay canceled my accounts telling me I had become a "legal liability” to them, and they could not allow me to conduct business on their site. This entire ordeal has become an ongoing nightmare from which I cannot seem to wake up.
I am an honest small business owner, just trying to make a living and take care of my home and family. I have been selling on eBay for 7 years. I have 1000’s of happy customers. It is unfortunate that I have lost my sole source of income due to a couple of persistent people with nothing better to do than to come up with ways to destroy my life. I now have been put out of business, and have no way to support myself or my family.
I have suffered loss of wages, false imprisonment, harassment, defamation of character, and now public humiliation at the hands of Cindy and her clan. I honestly cannot believe something like this could happen over a $1.50 auction. If it had not happened to me I still would not believe it.
The scariest part of this whole ordeal is that I have come to realize that Cindy Burleson is not going to stop. She is obsessed with me, and has made it her life’s mission to harass me and my family. If it happened to me, it could happen to anyone out there.
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Let me know how you would handle almost 2 years of constant harassment by a pair of obsessed women with too much time on their hands. Let me know how you would feel if these women had men drive by your home and call you on the phone to let you know they drove by and were watching you, your wife, and your kids. You say I did not even go on camera to defend myself ?? Do you think for a second when the report showed up at my house he was there to hear me defend myself ?? No, he had his mind made up that I was this mean guy who cusses for absolutely no reason at all completely unprovoked. I called him and told him the 100% truth. I told him about the fake police reports that were made against me, yet he made no mention of that in his report. You see why I did not want to talk to him on camera ? The reporter made you believe what he wanted you to believe and you believed it. If you want to see the emails I received and the fake police reports Cindy and her Daughter made against me, just ask and I will show them to you. I am not trying to get the focus off of me, I want it on me so everyone can see how I was harassed. The TRUTH will come out. Maybe it will not make the news, since the TRUTH is not news worthy, but it will come out.
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Another thing, do you actually believe someone would spew obscenities to someone else for simply asking a question ? Dwayne emailed me asking where I lived so that if he bid on and won my auction he could pick the item up. I told him to read the auction since it was stated I did not allow local pick-up (for the obvious reason CINDY BURLESON). He emailed me back telling me I was rude and why would I expect him to even bid on my items with that attitude (all of a sudden I have an attitude because I do not want strangers in my home). I emailed him back telling him he was banned from bidding on my items and that we would not be doing business together so not to email me anymore. He continued emailing me and ridiculing me with messages like "he. he, he!" and such. I told him to stop emailing me, but he continued. That is the ONLY reason I called. I wanted him to stop, and guess what, he did not email me after that, so apparently that is what it took to make Dwayne Schimke stop emailing me. I did not see ANY of this on the story, did you ? There IS more than meets the eye, but the reporters writing these stories do not want you to know the full TRUTH, just the half truths that get them ratings. Open up your eyes, yes, where there is smoke there is fire, but you have to also ask yourself, who started that fire and who is responsible for all of the damage that fire caused ?????
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bought high-end e way car speakers,paid instantly on Jan 23rd 2006,the seller took 6 days to ship,I did get the speakers,but out of 6 total,only 2 worked
I had them installed at a shop so I also had to pay to have them removed.
The seller said no problem send them back for an immediate replacement.
I fedex'd them back to him and when I knew he signed for them I sent him an email asking when he would ship.
He then said he needed 24-48 hours to process ?,I waited 4 days sending emails back and forth with him always saying the same thing,there is a process for this type of thing blah blah blah.....
I then setup a paypal buyers complaint,he emailed me the next day through an ebay msg saying that unless I take off the paypal buyers complaint as well as the negative feedback I also left...that he would not send me the replacement speakers at all,I figured he's a power seller,and it'l be ok.
I cancel the complaint and remove the feedback and now it's been 11 days and still no speakers.
SO I try and setup another complaint and I'm told that once I cancel that's it.......
and paypal is no longer reponsible ???????
I threatened to meet the seller in person {I know I know I read that piece} and he said I would be greeted accordingly,
I'm in NY and he's in Irvine CA so that's just not going to happen anyway.
I then sent him possible flights that would cost $119. each way and a google-earthed map from the airport to his business {25 minutes}
he gets back and then says I just need to be patient that this process takes longer than one would expect ??????
the other odd thing what happened is that the date on the listing changed from ending when I paid with paypal on Jan 23rd to Feb 18th ?????
I had sent ebay a msg/complaint about this and the power seller team got back to me saying they will look into this,and I should fill out a compplaint from either side.
you would think they would know I could no longer setup a buyers complaint with paypal,and that since the date changed in the listing,I need to wait 10 days after listing ends before it will let me setup an ebay complaint.
the item was $334.00,and I also paid $37.00 to ship them back #$%@
the paypal account is linked to my bank account,
if I used my CC I would ok probably ?,but my bank said they couldn't do a thing.
I'd also like to hear about class-action suits.
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I DO HOPE SOMEONE HAS THE TIME AND INITIATIVE TO START THIS...I THINK A LAWSUIT WOULD BE SUCESSFUL AS I SEE A MYRIAD OF VIOLATIONS. ANY OTHER BUSINESS WOULD BE HELD LIABLE FOR SUCH THINGS...WHY ARE THEY EXEMPT...OR ARE THEY? MAYBE AN AMBITIOUS ATTORNEY WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT THESE COMPLAINTS ONLINE.
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I sold a legal retail version of a DVD on ebay. WHen I created the auction, I used eBay's neat feature where you enter the ISBN number from the DVD and they automatically supply a photo and the description. Cool, just like Amazon does. The DVD is sold, but then the next day, eBay removes my already completed auction because they claim I'm selling a copied DVD. WTF???? Where do they come off accussing me of this?
But wait, it gets better. THe buyer receives an email from eBay informing her that my DVD is a illegal copy, so she freaks out and emails me telling me she's sending it back. I inform her that it's a legal retail DVD and there's nothing to worry about; eBay made a mistake. NO NO NO, the little witch insists "she doesn't feel right about it", even though she has it in her hands and can clearly see that it's a legal retail DVD. I get it back and then the witch files a fraud complaint on paypal citing 'Not as Described'. Long story short, ebay won't listen to my side of the story, paypal allows her to provide all the data in the world and my only option after reading her complaint is to check "Do not Agree". They don't allow me to give MY SIDE OF THE STORY. After I lose the sale, paypal follows up with another message stating "If you can prove you sent the package, maybe we'll help you." At this point I'm furious!! The buyer ALREADY ADMITTED SHE RECEIVED IT!!!!! The complaint was that she beleived it was a fake DVD because of eBay's mistake. Obviously Paypal didn't even read teh full complaint, treated me like the criminal and in the end cited with the buyer that lied about "Not as Described" (which was ironic being that all the words in teh auction describing teh DVD were from eBay).
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have you gone to your local courthouse and requesed a restraing order, these also include third parties, she will undoubtedly do what the restraining order tells her not to, either personally or use a third party, have her ass thrown in Jail and see how tough she is with the "real" tough girls. This woman is a nut case. I can guarantee you, this is not the first time she has done this. What a disgusting person she is, god help us if she has kids just like her!
You should not have to defend yourself to posting accusing you of making this up, or because you did not defend yourself, I would have done the same thing, big deal, so you didn't go on camera and what..that means your guilty, it really amazes me the logic of some peole.
GET THIS WOMAN LOCKED UP SHE IS PSYCHO and I would truly be afraid for my safety and that of my family. don't let this evil ~~&%*#@ do this to you.
Stay Strong and take Care!!
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I recently received a royal shaft (sans lube) from Ebay and I am also interested in participating in a class action suit. I can't read your email adde in this post but I'm happy to share mine: Donc314@hotmail.com
please let me know how to get in touch and I'll be happy to cooperate in a law suit. I am (or was) doing about $1500 a week and 550 plus feedback at 99.3%
they shut me down without warning due to their error and I have been attempting to get back up and running since 3/28.
In the meantime I'm building a Yahoo store and recomend that you do the same.
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I just recently had a problem with eBay seller dressed2the9s after doing a BIN (Buy It Now) and paying immediately. I kept emailing them asking about my item (with no response back) and it took them 11 days just to tell me it wasn’t in stock. They offered a refund which I accepted but after another week of asking about the refund I finally got a response that the item had shipped.
Perhaps now would be a good time to point out I needed these shoes for a wedding. In every email I sent them, I mentioned the date I when needed the shoes but they "never got that email".
I did everything I could. I paid on time (within an hour of doing a Buy It Now). I kept in contact with the seller (10 emails from me and one phone call which they never returned). And I still got slammed by eBay because the seller eventually did ship (25 days after I paid). I should have just filed a Non-Performing Seller and Item Not Received.
Now I am stuck with a retaliatory negative feedback because I told the truth in my feedback to the seller. And a pair of shoes that are useless to be since they were finally delivered after the wedding. dressed2the9s is notorious for leaving retaliatory feedback (which all reads like it was written by a nasty gradeschool kiddy). They sell items they don't even have in stock and then leave negative feedback claiming it is the buyers fault!
And now they are harassing me about the webpage I created that contains all the emails that I sent and received from them. The truth hurts and I hope it hurts them tenfold!
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Okay...first of all...I am a moderator in a group. We had to kick some psycho nut out of the group...she gets kicked out of all the groups. So~she is relentless, acting evil...sending emails. We all ignore her.
So...two weeks ago. I get kicked off and so does my sister. To make a long story short...we were accused of shill bidding...increasing the price of an auction. Family members, friends, co-workers, anyone who knows someone...can not bid. No problem...my sister did not bid..she used BIN. Which according to EBAY, is the way to do it. She bought, she paid and that was it. Something she wanted and probably to help me out with $$$, since she has much more then me.
They say....7 day suspension. Okay...nothing after 7 days...several more emails to them and their shitty *safe harbor*. They send me an email to fill out promising not to let anyone shill bid...okay, DUMB DUMB...not doing that in the first place.....so I send it. NO response back...now several days.
Try to call them...they do not discuss the account. No response...still suspended for something that is totally incorrect. Oh...the lady we kicked off,she emailed me to say hahaha...she claims all she had to do was tell them my sister purchase my auction. Without even checking if it was or not..they suspended us.
My income and ability to stay home with my kids....comes from Ebay. I have several customers who auction ended when I got suspended...request their money back and not want product. Ebay kept all the listing fees when they cancelled 200 auctions I had running....$1.35 a pop.
Stilll waiting Ebay...I am already forced to accept a job this coming week. No more stay at home mom...Ebay ruined my life and my families...I hate them.
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EBAY SUCKS
Consumer Complaint Against ebay - The Public Should Know The Truth
PROBLEM NUMBER 1
ebay never returns any emails and never responds to complaints, it has horrible customer service. It is stated that they will get back to you in 24 to 48 hours, which is an outright lie. ebay has not even responded to the Better Businsess Complaint which they have 30 days to do so. This is a terrible company and that is the truth, they have untrained and very unskilled employees working for them.
PROBLEM NUMBER 2
Please refer to Better Business Bureau Complaint ID#: 253339
This Case was against PayPal, Inc & for the same reasons Complaint Case #: 253644 was filed against ebay. Paypal admitted to making mistakes and fixed the issues. Ebay has never responded to the complaint
This will help you understand the issues:
I would first like to address the policies of ebay to help you further understand my problems and issues. It states on ebay policy that: Weapons listed on eBay U.S. must comply with the California Penal Code covering the sale of weapons. Otherwise, these items are not permitted on eBay. This can be found at: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/firearms-weapons-knives.html Now under current law it is illegal to sell Switchblade knives across state lines this is a Federal Offense to do so. You can buy fully illegal items on ebay and can find them under Microtech, Benchmade automatic, automatic knife, push button knife, auto knife, and semi-auto knife. The fact that the sale of such items needs local, state, and federal law enforcement to investigate such Federal crimes being committed on the auction. However there are items that are completely legal and that comply with ebay policy. I sell various items on ebay but my items are removed with unjustified means. Bill SB 274 clearly specifies the legality of Spring-Assisted knives, they are have no button in the handle, no hidden switch or trigger, they open by a thumb stud which is on the blade. I realize that with selling such items the thumb stud should be clearly visible and I make a note in my photographs to prove compliance to ebay policy with regard to being California Penal Code Compliant. I get my listing removed all the time while other members who sell the same item day in and day out are allowed to, which is correct because they are legal. The fact that I am singled out for reporting these matters to the BBB and FTC has brought me further problems with ebay. I’m told that my items are against policy; this is untrue and can be proven. I have reported the exact same items and they are allowed to be sold without revocation and I also report the completely illegal items that are continued to be sold and no actions are taken. It is very clear that this company has no idea of what the current law is and has the worst customer service of any company I have ever dealt with. I have all the emails of my cancelled items and the responses from the company which are few. It is stated that they will get back to you in 24 to 48 hours, which is an outright lie. This problem has gone on for 6 months. It is clear that ebay does not know Bill SB 274 and furthermore know nothing of the California Penal Code regarding the sale of weapons which is ebay’s policy and the most disturbing problem the fact that they are aiding breaking Federal Laws with the sale of fully automatic weapons on the site. Ebay needs to be held accountable for allowing illegal items to be sold and also accountable for terrible customer service and they themselves should be aware of the truly legal items which they remove without justifiable clause. Ebay seems to make up policy as they feel fit and this should not be allowed. If policy is not upheld and does not apply to everyone then ebay is guilty of breeching the contract that they them self have written. I would like help with the correct channels that these issues can be addressed and for me to seek legal action against ebay. This behavior is unacceptable for a business to condone and must be rectified. These issues I have raised with ebay are serious ones, the customer service is non-existent, the untrained and unskilled employees working for this company, the total disregard for current law, and the fact they are in breech of the contract set forth in the user agreement and policy.
PROBLEM NUMBER 3
ebay is continueing to harass me and end my auction because I have filed with the FTC, Better Business Bureau, & California's Attorney Generals Office. This behavior is aweful and should not be allow. The new issue is that my eBay Listing are Removed because of Circumvention of eBay Fees. This involves Excessive Shipping Charges Policy. I do not cheat this system in any way at all this is an outright lie by this company because of the previous complaints I have entered. This policy is not fair and should be look into for being unlawful. These are my reasons. The online purchase of items using Paypal or Bidpay, which currently are the only options, require you to send items with tracking numbers and require signatures upon delivery. If you mail an item even if the ebay buyer want it to be sent by regular mail the seller is easily defrauded. A buyer on ebay simply has to file a complaint and when the seller can not supply a tracking number and a signature then the seller will loose the sale and the money will be refunded to the buyer. This is a serious loophole in the system for fraud from buyers and needs to be address. So with this into consideration I am forced to ship with more expensive shipping methods such as UPS, FedEx, or USPS Priority and require signatures to protect myself from being defrauded by such fraudsters on ebay, and now ebay is telling me this is against policy and that I am in violation of shipping practices. I would love to have any help from in damaging ebay's image and being to light such practices that are serious problems to consumers & retailers alike. This should also be further added to my other complaints with this company because they seem to act very childish and are singleing me out for reporting them, which should furthermore be against the law because of unethical practices. Thank you for your time and your help.
Best thing to do is to report them, please file complaints at:
Federal Trade Commission at: https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01
Better Business Bureau at: http://odr.bbb.org/odrweb/public/complaintlink.aspx
California's Attorney General at: http://ag.ca.gov/consumers/consumer_complaint.htm
US Attorney General: askdoj@usdoj.gov
KNOW THE RULES AND BEAT THEM AT THEIR OWN GAME!!!
YOU WILL NEVER WIN BY YOURSELF SO GET SOLID PROOF AND FILE CLAIMS & GET eBAY INVESTIGATED.
I LOVE REPORTING ILLEGAL ITEMS TOO THIS REALLY GETS THEM IN SOME CRAP
Report Illegal Activity
to the FBI at: https://tips.fbi.gov/
Or contact:
The ATF: eps@atf.gov
US Attorney General: askdoj@usdoj.gov
US Department of Justice Criminal Division: criminal.division@usdoj.gov
US Department of Justice: inspector.general@usdoj.gov
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I hate how ebay employees treat the buyers & sellers who use this auction platform,
So please report them for violations
Revege on ebay is possible.
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Ebay Sucks
billcobb@ebay.com
This address really does get a response, good luck everyone.
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illegal hazmat shipments
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I go tbanned from ebay
Anyways, I hope someone knocks ebay off their high money horse, because they are not even gonna see it comming.
Sell for free at
http://www.EBIDMARKET.COM
$100 for signin up, and $50 for referals.
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RE: Andrew Cucchiara You NEED TO GET A LIFE
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Yes eBay Does Suck. How Can I sue them?
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Phone Number For Customer Support at eBay 800-717-
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Reach eBay at eBay 800-717-3229
For some reason the phone number got cut off i my previous posts.
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I too am a seller and have been fighting to get out of ebay prison for years. I've made new accounts with new names trying to get around them because as we all know you CAN NOT reason with them. They do not breath. I loved that guys analogy up at the top, its like having a conversation with a car alarm!
Oh and have you seen how how they are advertising their Ebay Express like crazy. I did a search recently for cameras, and at the top, in bold and colorful is "BUY NEW FROM EBAY EXPRESS"
Is that stabbing your sellers in the back or what? Almost looks like they're trying to move towards getting rid of auctions all together? Who knows.. All I know is that my business relied on them and now I'm not sure what I'm going to do.
Wish we could all pick a new auction site, theres gotta be 100,000 of us, throw in a dollar each and run some commercials for it nation wide! HAHA...
SOMEONE PLEASE HELP US, LAWYERS, NEWS REPORTERS, HELP!
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ebay
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Buyers beware
Oh, eBay offered to get me my money back minus $25...because hell...they have to pay their Goddamned stock holders still.
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one more thing...
yosemitesamiam at gmail dot com
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How is it mail fraud if you send a postal money order and they don't send the item? I'm interested as this is how I did business this go-round.
please email me.
yosemitesamiam at gmail dot com
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You will sit on hold for an hour or 2, but if you have a speaker phone it won't seem so bad. duh.. anyway, eBay needs to have their collective asses sued into oblivion for the absolute worst customer service in the whirled... at least thats what I figure.
Also, I have to serve some legal papers on eBay, does anyone have the legal address for legal service to eBay.CA
I'm going to small claims for 10K and I want to make sure I have their correct legal address. I am sure I will win, because what are the odds that they will actually show up?
Even if they do I don't care, I'll just go back and back and back until I get some satisfaction
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Ebay & Paypal phone numbers
When you call one of Ebay's "secret" phone numbers they always say "How did you get this number?" ALWAYS.
You say, "Why - is it a secret?" They will say "no". Same routine every time. Hilarious. Don't tell them where you got the number. None of their ******* business where you got it.
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Selling As Is on ebaym getting suspended
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I bought a collectors item that was 1 of only 100 pieces. I paid in full via Paypal. I am located Overseas so the shipping was expensive. None the less the seller contacts me after receiving payment and says that the shipping will now be another $40! I said that I would not have purchased the item if the shipping had been more expensive than advertised, thus I was happy instead to have a refund.
He replied that it was "too bad - it's just the way it is."
Seller stated that he had spent the money, had $8 in his Paypal account and that there was no way he could refund my money any time soon. I said that as long as he prioritised it and remained in contact I could wait a reasonable period of time.
He then stated that he could not refund, that instead he would open a "payment not received" dispute via ebay using the pretense that buyer and seller had mutually agreed to cancel the transaction. This way he said, he could retrieve his listing fees and that would make up the difference in postage. Thus he could then post the item.
At this juncture he opened the dispute, I however did not agree nor intend to lie to ebay about the cancellation of the transaction. He said that he would not post it until I agreed. He commenced sending more and more aggressive emails insisting I agree to cancel the transaction so he could re-coup his fees or he would not ship the item.
This is when I opened a Paypal "item not received" dispute.
He posted the item and provided a tracking number as I requested within the dispute.
Throughout his communication with me he became increasingly harassing. He was using threats and abuse to intimidate me into firstly giving him more money, then agreeing to the ebay dispute then finally he started sending me numerous e-mails whilst the Paypal dispute was open. These e-mails were heightened in aggression and contained threats about me ruining his business and how he would make sure to get even with me for the trouble I was causing him by having the Paypal dispute open.
I found that the threats and the abuse had become intolerable. To get him to cease and desist in this harassment I closed the Paypal dispute. I felt I had little other choice as he was making things unbearable.
I received the item approx. ten days later. I opened it immediately at the post office to confirm the contents only to find that the item was broken in half!!!! The item is now not worth a cent to any collector thus it is worthless.
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eBay seller harrassing me for neutral feedback
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Feedback system is a joke now.
In a year ALL buyers will be 100% as a seller cannot warn other sellers that 'problems with this one'... Even if you do leave a positive feedback and negative comment in text response area... ebay will remove it...
Feedback is now slanting ebays 'level playing field' to themselves and their $$$'s.
I was a 7 year ebay seller with over 6000 sales and (only 2000+ feedback credits).. yet 90% now, with a scamming buyer and two disappointed buyers who left neutrals.
Deal is that if seller doesn't keep posting items (listing fees for ebay) feedback will fall even if seller has only ONE NEUTRAL and that was recently..
BOTH of my neutrals were lost USPS mails and funds FULLY refunded but buyers were disappointed... Even though I didn't have to do anything as I had mailing confirmation but I did. B uyers apoligized for leaving neutrals but were upset I wouldn't mail again and me foot the bill. They understood ... one took me up on the deal for just postage.. but had already left feedback... so I'm as bad as a bad seller out to burn you with 2 negatives and a lot of sales.
You loose a sales credit after 12 months so if you do not list (more listing $$ for ebay whether it sells or not)your feedback will fall...
% only counts sales in past 12 months divided by feedbacks + neutrals+ Negatives = %
SO you could have a seller selling hundreds of items a week and a couple of negatives, will come out the same feedback % as a seller that sells 4 or 5 items a week has one neutral seller 2 will actually be lower %, as a seller that doesn't give a poo and writes off as doing business but list and sells hundreds of items. His score won't change much with more positives (listing fees and final sale fees to ebay)
Even if in my case, seller cares and goes extra mile, answers email, ships promptly, communicates! and gets 2 neutrals, this makes seller look worse than a seller with one negative!
... and all bad marks from a year ago gets erased, don't count.
FEEBAY mid priced small items like I sell like I auction I pay in the end about 18% back to ebay. Dollar or so listing fee with photos.... 8.3% of the final sale 'in the end' another 3.2% if we accept Pay Pal... $10 item I get maybe $7.50 after fees.
Yes ebay MAY slowly do something about it, WE 'members' are paying for it right now. I'll not list and watch my score slowly decline (even though 78 positives in only past 30 days until I stopped listing) Dropped another .2% and I had no transactions or feedbacks change!
This is just getting too long..
so many problems, so little bytes
Adios Feebayos!
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Cali and Florida Illegal Criminals selling bebe on ebay
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eBay say it has 233m members but if you read the small print then this 233m soon becomes 14m for the UK and you could add 20% more for the USA but this still leaves you a very long way from eBays 233m figure.
http://pages.ebay.co.uk/aboutebay/thecompany/companyoverview.html
eBuster put the total for active members at about 33m members.
http://www.ebuster.co.uk/SellerStats.aspx
and that includes all the shill bid accounts and accounts set up for nothing more than selling feedback and if you think these are small numbers then take a look here were 1000's of feedback adverts are listed.
http://www.ebuster.co.uk/SellingFeedBack/AllSellingFeedback.aspx
or here where we have a bidder with just 6 points retracting 275 bids
http://www.ebuster.co.uk/BadBids/275BidRetractions.html
or this one where a bidder has 72 bids with the same seller.
http://www.ebuster.co.uk/BadBids/t-shirtzShilBidder.html
eBays responce is to cook the book when they have been caught out.
http://www.ebuster.co.uk/BadFeedback/euroachat2009/GoogleHadIT.html
but Google cached pages saves the day.
Take a look at 'Books Fiction' on eBay UK and it says it has about 2.5m items listed so if you take 2.5m and divide by 15 days and 200 items per page then you should see about 833 pages of these books each day but the highest page you will get to is about 251 and it will show items are ending in about 23 hours time if ordered by 'Ending soonest' so where are the other 500 pages.
eBay says crime only accounts for something like 0.01% of items and it is doing all it can to help members so how come i can write software with limited access to data that spots gang activity a mile away.
http://www.ebuster.co.uk/Matrix/Matrix.aspx?SellerName=xoberhausen
eBay is doing all it can to hide data and will not answer why bidder in the UK are all called bidder 1-20 and the USA has two digit alias and not a ten digit unique alias but i think we can all work that one out for ourselves and now if you take the time to look at the bid history for cars you find a page full of new members and yellow stars.
Sorry but eBay can not claim to have masses of loyal members if none of them are bidding and any figures from eBay must be taken with a large pinch of salt.
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that is why you do Craigslist instead of ePay!!! or eBay
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After reading this above I am glad to not live near him, But what will he do next "Electronically"? THIS SUCKS! All I did was dealt on ebay and look what has happened!
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EBAY seller who was a SCARY Weirdo
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Don't give out ur home address on eBay...
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Seller Protection
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