Newspapers Still Can't See The Online Forest For All Their Dead Trees
from the free-advice dept
By this point, it really doesn't need repeating that the newspapers don't get the internet, and have made several bad decisions in crafting an internet strategy. Tom Mohr is the former president of Knight-Ridder Digital and has now penned a long "manifesto" that attempts to lay out an internet strategy for the embattled newspapers. He starts out promisingly enough, correctly identifying the industry's failures, and its inability to make any meaningful online innovations. But from there the argument gets shaky. Essentially, Mohr sees the industry's survival hinging on its ability to come together to form a giant partnership that acts on behalf of all the newspapers. This giant partnership might, say, negotiate better advertising deals with brokers like Yahoo and Google, and develop common platforms for managing and sharing content. But as we go back and look through the problems had by the newspapers, what does this proposal really address? The newspapers' problem isn't that they don't have bargaining power, it's that the value of their product has been diminished. They haven't figured out how to translate their offline expertise into the online realm. Simply teaming up to take on Google or Yahoo doesn't get at the root of the problem. The solution is not to eke out a few extra pennies per click, but to expand the market. By improving their product and learning how to add value -- to once again become important focal points of information and commerce -- newspapers could stay profitable and relevant.
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Depends on what you want
When you use Google to find a news story, you'll see the identical text linked to hundreds of news outlets - some of whom offer it online only to 'subscribers'. For that reason, the "manifesto" makes sense, that the newspapers would be better off banding together to distribute this headline content.
I prefer to read multiple newspapers, to get different views on the same news. I wouldn't do that if all of them had the same content. This too may suggest value to a joint effort, which puts up the headline, then lists under it the varied viewpoints from various news sources which the reader may access.
The USA Today content is already offered by all the homepages of MSN, Yahoo, etc., etc. So no new model of distribution appears to be needed.
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Adding value.
Add up all of the "information-wants-to-be-free" types, and toss in the difficulties of getting subscription revenues and payment for content on the web, and you have to wonder exactly how they're going to be able to afford to create all of that value...
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Re: Adding value.
Hmm. Except we've covered this before in great detail. If you look at Craigslist and eBay you see two companies that basically took the classifieds model of a newspaper and made it work. So, clearly there are ways to add value. It's just that the newspapers haven't done it.
Add up all of the "information-wants-to-be-free" types, and toss in the difficulties of getting subscription revenues and payment for content on the web, and you have to wonder exactly how they're going to be able to afford to create all of that value...
And yet plenty of companies have... So, what's your point then?
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Re: Adding value.
stories have value. But there's more than one way to provide the facts
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ughh...
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Re: ughh...
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Re: ughh...
At the very least, stop commenting on it.
Oh, and its not a newpapers/reporters obligation to come up with a way to solve the polices problems when they report on the polices failures, so why would it be a tech bloggers obligation to solve the company in questions problems?
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Wait a minute...
And besides, do we really need another 4-letter association to throw non-existent weight around and cry about piracy of copyrwitten "property"? What, the Printed Information Association of America? Soon, the three will merge into one "interest group" and will have complete control over all information media. The more there are, the more powerful they become when joined. Kinda like Voltron, only evil.
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Re: Wait a minute...
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The scary ole Internet..
As many folks have noted most of the local and regional papers primarily syndicate AP and Reuters stories which can easily be read online for free. What I do value about the local paper are the original, geographically relevant articles. The problem is that local content isn’t going to sell enough copies under the old “daily printing press” method, at least not on the scale that current outlets operate under.
Papers have a few options, none of which involve “banding together against the great Internet threat”. One solution is to scale back operations, focus on local and regional content and publish in a timely manner (i.e. not everyday, but every hour or whenever news happens) via the Internet. If they want to offer a printed digest version once or twice a week then great. Offset the printing cost by including advertisements and coupons. Heck, that’s the only reason we take print anymore anyway.
The point is that much like the other industries featured on this site, the tired old strategies are not going to work if you just put some new lipstick on the pig and hope he’ll fly. If I had all the answers for any one of these ageing behemoths I’d bill out my time as a consultant. But I don’t. So I just offer up my few ideas in the hope that someone does something about the problem. After all, I kinda like my coupons.
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Never...
but get my news from it? well duh...it was printed last night...as in yesterday.
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alt.cage-liner
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Some get it
The BBC is another news source that's proven to be pretty adaptive and innovative.
The problem is that most news sites tried to transpose a physical medium (newspapers) onto the web. It doesn't work. At the end of the day, newspapers that succeed on the web are going to be the ones that look the most like blogs, a web-native medium. And there's going to be fewer of them; newspapers with little to no original content (90% of local papers) aren't going to survive on the web, where their presence is simply redundant.
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google this: newspapers understand internet site:techdirt.com
it's one thing to come out with, say, one or two stories about how newspapers don't understand the internet and that they need to come up with new strategies, and to not give any suggestions. but c'mon now... they've taken it to the extreme here. say you do read a newspaper, would like it if every week, sometimes twice or several times a week, they printed an article with the exact same premise? that "such and such just doesn't get it when it comes to such and such" (granted this makes up 99% of techdirts articles...) after so long you have to wonder if the person isn't talking out of their ass, in that there is NO solution to/for "such and such". if there is some magical solution, by all means, let the world know your genius. until then, find something new to complain about.
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Except if you actually look at the results of that Google search you suggested, you'll note that we repeatedly DO suggest solutions, such as helping people spread the news rather than just reporting on it and trying to lock people in. Or, how newspapers can customize to keep readers' attention.
So, the claim that we never present solutions is false. And, even if it was, why should we remain silent each time we believe a newspaper has made an additional mistake? These aren't "the same" stories each time, but an additional case of newspapers (or someone in the industry) heading down the wrong path.
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well there's a worthless example. people aren't inherently searching for specific news stories prior to them being released somewhere. the only time people generally search for news stories is after they've heard about it from someone else. for example, would you randomly search "world trade center attacks" before you heard from somewhere that there was an attack on the world trade center? news stories are (well they're supposed to be) stories that are new that you haven't heard about yet.
the classifieds are a completely different beast. you go to the classifieds searching for something or trying to sell something, there's an easy correlation to the web considering to find pretty much anything you want you use a search engine. it therefore makes for an obvious translation. another way to look at it is that classifieds are just a database of available things to purchase... the corellation there is obvious as well.
how come you haven't mentioned web comics? is that another example of how people have taken the "funnies" section of a newspaper and made it work?
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I think you missed the point of that example. The newspaper business has really been about using the news to attract people to the classifieds. The fact that these firms have unbundled that aspect is just another example of what newspapers *should* have done years ago.
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Business 2.0 article on NY Times Select
The person who said newspapers are going to have to have blog-like features is absolutely correct. There is a quote from the Business 2.0 article that the executive committee for the NY Times created a strategy that says they are in the business of "convening communities" which is pretty much what blogs are all about.
Craigstlist has severly damaged the classfied revenues newspapers always dominated. Match.com has taken most of the personals revenue. And online jobsites like Monster and Hot Jobs have syphoned off much of the revenue from the help wanted section.
Developing communities and visitors online to attract online advertising dollars and and also offering a "premium" subscription like NY Times Select or ESPN "Insider" are going to have to be some of the ways newspapers replace much of that lost revenue.
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Re: Adding value
Newspapers aren't being killed by the evil ol' internets. (People reading the printed word, and doing research...) Anyone heard of this thing called "television?" I hear it's where most people get their news. And politically inclined folks tend to listen to talk radio. Which is vaguely associated with news. A small-town paper reprinting AP stories can't cut in a global information society? Well duh...
I hear the Buggy Whip Manufacturers of America are forming a new partnership to increase their negotiating powers with carriage makers.
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If you don't read newspapers, you should. Read the Sunday New York Times, cover to cover, and then come back and tell me there's nothing interesting, relevant, or important in there. If you say you don't have enough time to read them, then I say you don't really know how to educate yourself. I doubt a David McCullough-like historian will be using blogs and Techdirt in 100 years as sources for a Pulitzer Prize-winning book. But I could be wrong.
What a small-town paper is best at is writing local stories. Instapundit and Katie Couric don't focus their newsgathering around Podunk America, unless there's something ridiculous going on there, like the kidnapping of a 6-year-old beauty queen.
The argument shouldn't be about whether newspapers are providing important information, because they are. The argument should be about how that information should be dispersed so that it's more interesting and relevant to readers (ie. the semantic Web).
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