Microsoft Brags That Vista Will Be A Burden To European Companies
from the jobs-jobs-jobs dept
A new Microsoft-funded IDC study claims that the introduction of Vista in Europe will lead to the creation of up to 50,000 jobs, as money flows forth from corporate coffers for Vista-associated costs. Undoubtedly, Microsoft will use the data from the study to help resolve its ongoing tensions with the EU. But even if we set aside our skepticism about the 50,000 number, is this even a good thing? Job creation isn't itself a measure of economic progress. In fact, it'd be much more impressive if the study said the introduction of Vista would make 50,000 existing jobs unnecessary, freeing that human capital up for higher value work. Really what Microsoft is saying with this study is that the introduction of Vista will be an increased burden on companies, forcing them to spend more in several different areas. In fact, as Vinnie Marchandani, a former Gartner analyst who's seen these new software introduction before, points out, upgrades are typically low ROI events. Of course, politicians love to talk about job creation, since that's what gets them elected, so who knows, some in the EU might be swayed by this report.
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Its all about the jobs...
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i.e.
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As was said on /.
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Typical
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You know someone would be bashing MS if they did say that Vista would save money by cutting jobs. MS just can't do anything right can they?
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You Spin Me Right Round Baby, Right Round
Brilliant.
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what braging rights?
I used it once (beta) and ... uh... lets just say... for those who want to spend as little as possible for a pc. you won't be able to pull that off with Vista. you will need a goooood machine to run it
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MS Vista and Jobs
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Not how most of Europe thinks
Saying it would kill 50,000 jobs would just make it more likely that the EU would try to block it. After all, from their point of view, that would mean 50,000 people out of work. Most of the semi-socialist economies in Europe would not believe that the money saved would go back into the economy in the form of new industries.
That isn't the case with all European nations, but it seems to be the way that a lot of them operate.
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LINUX
Loaded up Fedora Core 5 on same box - NO problems at all - runs great.
Vista will also feed hardware upgrade dollars to many companies - it will definitely not perform well on many of todays machines.
So if you have an existing but maybe two year old computer - your gonna be out a lot of cash if you must use this underwhelming OS.
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Try Linux B4 Vista
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Re: Try Linux B4 Vista
And on a Turion ML34 512mb laptop, astoundingly, it's performance is noticeably improved over Windows XP Pro that was on it, with improved battery life to boot! That was a shocker for me, and once I tweaked out a few settings, it got even better. Beta 1 was a different story, but it's shaped up. And unlike Ubuntu, MEPIS and PCLinuxOS, it had all the hardware working without installing a single driver.
At this point in the game, complaining about an unstable Vista box is the same about complaining about an unstable Windows box. The problem lies between the keyboard and the chair. Memtest86+ and Prime95 are good tools.
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it's not so bad
but it improves the efficiency of the company many times. more jobs required for new functionality is not necessarily a bad thing.
the ROI has to figure what the benefits ofthe new OS will be vs the new manpower to install and support it. some assume it's all crap. (hard to do if it's not even released yet, but that doesn't stop people).
heck, generals have said that planes will not affect wars, and economics profesors said delivering packages overnight was a useless business model.
companies and home users will slowly migrate to vista just like they have all the previous versions.
a minute saved every day will save about 4 hours of labor per person per year in a company.
larger companies will obviously reap greater savings.
the smaller companies will follow suit when they can.
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Jobs & EU
But of course, an economy with a GDP of $100 with 50% unemployment can be said to be much better than an economy with a GDP of $60 but with only 5% unemployment. However, and this is the case with the EU at the moment, most people wouldn't like to see half the population in destitution, so it becomes a social issue. Nevermind social hang-ups and ignorance of capitalism in the EU is what causes their problems, thats a different story. =)
And some of you nuts are truly idiots. Comparing Vista and Linux on a P3? That's sick. Linux fanboys can't accept that Linux is built upon a command line, and no matter how hard any distro tries to make its mediocre GUI capabilities better, at the end of the day, if a user didn't like DOS he's not going to like Linux in the long-run. Even Win95, which was a GUI pasted on top of DOS practically, required less from the user than getting serious tweaking done in Linux in an efficient way does. Two different markets; why can't you people accept that?! Linux doesn't even have a parallel to Vista anyway; that's like comparing a Civic to a Lexus. Civic gets work done, but Lexus makes life easy.
And if you mean you need a "gooooood" computer to run Vista you mean something thats NOT a 3+ year old bucket of bolts, then yes. But people who have any interest beyond merely finishing work isn't still poking along on anything less than a Athlon XP 2400+, which, coincidentally, ran Vista absolutely great with 768mb RAM in Beta 2, that pre-RC1 release and now RC1, no problems loading high-RAM apps like Office 2007's Word, Excel & Powerpoint simultaneously, either. But go ahead, speak in ignorance, tell people Vista will require 2GB to load in under 10min if it makes you e-penis feel better.
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Bummer it wont work, MS wont allow it due to HDCP.
Another reason to keep my whole business linux and mac based.
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I dont believe it, but its plausible.
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At a small, cash-strapped company like the one I work for, it's much more likely that we'll all just start using OpenOffice.
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