So, What Explains Car Accidents Before Videogames?
from the crash dept
It hardly needs repeating that videogames take the blame for many things these days, including violence and obesity. But those things are tired, and increasingly people are looking for new ills that can be attributed to videogames. The hot new one seems to be bad youth driving. Back in January, police blamed the game Need for Speed for an auto accident, because a copy of it was found in the wrecked car. And in the spring, a man used the game Grand Theft Auto as an excuse for thinking he could outrun the cops. Now in New Zealand, the government has responded to a recent fatal car accident involving teenagers by pointing the finger at videogame systems, saying they make teenagers feel "bulletproof" when they drive. Frankly, if you've ever spent a day playing a racing videogame, you might find feel this way for a moment when you get into a car, as your brain adjusts back to reality. But it's hard to imagine that anyone would actually change their driving habits because of a game, unless they were really, well, stupid and reckless. Of course, young drivers have always been known to make stupid and reckless decisions, long before the advent of videogames, just as there has always been violence and obesity too.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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but on the subject, anyone who thinks they are "bulletproof" when they drive after playing a video game is a moron. how many times did they crash during the day? or at the least how many times did they crash before they got their timing and the course layout down? ... this is about as smart as saying "people who play war games think they're better at war.." ... yea... if there's one thing FPSes have taught me it's that i never want to get into an actual gun fight...
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I agree
If the video game theory is true, you would think paint ball is even more insidious (not that I do, it's just a game) because it's way more realistic then some third person shooter.
End of the day, stupid people do stupid things regardless of the video game they might have or not have played. That's why they are stupid... I think these people pointing fingers at video games need to admit that people do stupid things and deal with the people.
People need to take responsibility for their actions, if we keep shoving the blame off onto other things we are going to turn in to a society of morons...
And by the way, 20 years ago when I was a teenager I almost wrecked my car racing a guy. It scared the crap out of me and I realized I was being.... STUPID!
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Pretty clear that, regardless of the physics involved, an FPS might just teach you that you can get F'd in the A in a gunfight.
Of course, you'd have to be an idiot not to know that already.
Dummy
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Re-read the comment with your sarcasm filter turned off.
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Xenos is an idiot
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Dummy
What, are you like, 4?
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Re: Xenos is an idiot by 98732
Oh yah, gotta watch out for the bad guy bunny hopping all over the place in real life. Lets not forget most guns have a mouse/keyboard interface. Can you people not read-in to things? Am I the only Marine posting? FPS in fact "would" teach you "hey I can just respawn".
Go to the gun store and buy one then learn to shoot it. Unless... you're not even old enought to buy your own in which case; you fools don't even matter.
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we know we can't respawn....
honestly if you think you can respawn then u deserve to die.
and since deaths are so frequent in video games, it teaches us how much we don't want to be in an actual war.
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I was...
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A Marine?? You were trained to serve and protect this country's youth so that the future of it can be preserved, and you're saying that they don't matter??? What kind of scum bag are you?? How about you get over yourself and think about what you're saying.
You are right that in an FPS you respawn, after getting shot with sometimes multiple bullets. But if you think that people would learn "Hey I can just respawn" then you're the biggest idiot that posts here. Anyone who has ever lost a family member, friend, or even pet, knows that death is permanent.
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Video games are only the latest excuse
Obviously these people aren't really good at critical thinking, and TV and video games shouldn't get the blame for that.
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TORCS
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Shoot Everyone Who Blames Games
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and i am to, but i'll try and see the other side.
desensitizing. that's the name of the game. just because you can "walk away from an accident where your car blows up, or respawn after you get shot" adds to the sense that there are some things we can do. We see war on TV's high speed chases where the guy crashes and walks away (he gets arrested, but he's still alive) we have movies where there are massive violence and no one pays. (Hero offs about 50 people, police don't do anything) so yeah, it get ingraned that we may not be invincible, but there is a line that we can cross and get away with it. So I can see the "logic" behind this. It may be a leap to get there, but there is still some "connection"
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You all agree
Idiots.
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Vibrating Controllers
but i guess that all changed when they implemented the vibrating controllers, so i guess the drivers cant tell the difference ?!?!
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Every one should wright to them and ask why they don't have any real evidence as to why video games are bad and why parents shouldn't just turn them off if they think its too much.
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Uh,Fellas...?
Because no one wans to admit that they are Mortal.
Video games are no more dangerous than my 12 gauge shotgun in the closet, or my Glock .40 in my night stand.
As it has been stated many times, in many ways, Stupid people make Stupid choices. You can teach a child the difference between right and wrong. You CANNOT control his or her actions/reactions. Children learn by watching the adults in their lives. If you're stupid, chances are your children will be too.
I am a former Marine. I am a Father. I am a son.
Common sense really isn't all that common anymore.
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Just my two cents.
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Riiiight
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its all about common sense here. thats it.
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What surprises me...
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You know what? There is probably a good chance that videogames do have an influence on behavior, although I doubt it is as directly connected as those who "blame" video games try and make it. It may even be a good influence on behavior, but, as is obvious from this string of comments, we will probably never get past the name calling and do a proper study.
I don't know if TV has had as horrible an effect as the anti-TV crowd has claimed. I find it laughable that cartoons have been edited so kids won't think they can really walk off a cliff and just hang suspended, like Wiley E. Coyote and Elmer Fudd. Besides never having heard of this actually happening, it can be a good thing. No one that stupid, or from parents that stupid, really needs to grow up and reproduce themselves. It goes without saying that the parents of that child really don't need to leave any lasting evidence of their stupidity either. (I don't, by the way, believe it was ever a problem, so the 'stupid' comments are meant tongue-in-cheek)
TV has obviously given us a chance to experience things we may never have had the opportunity to know. I doubt I would have ever made it to the Kalahari Desert to observe Meerkats in person, but I sure do enjoy watching them on Animal Planet. So there's one good thing for which we can thank television.
I strongly believe that the episodic nature of most TV shows - the idea that one's problems can be solved in 22 or 55 minutes; the disconnection between events that happen today with yesterday's events and tomorrow's - that's a bad thing I attribute to television. I believe that disconnect is directly responsible for much of the bs we are living through right now. Would we be in Iraq if the mainstream media had given us in-depth coverage, explaining the history of how Iraq came about and the beliefs and history of the people who live there? How about if the MM reminded us of the strong connection between the Bush Administration, Iran-Contra, support for Bin-Laden (!!) when he was doing our dirty work in Afganistan? I would hope that, had the media been more forthcoming instead of cheerleading us right into invasion, more people would have questioned the motives of our administration and perhaps public opinion against the invasion would have been great enough to stop it.
I am convinced that Hussein's trial was held in Iraq, delibrately rushed and barely of the law, let alone justice, so Cheney and Rumsfield could cover something up or keep it from coming out - some connection to Hussein they would rather not see made public. The latest, the rush to execute, just strengthens my conviction.
There again - would it even be an issue if people connected the dots, if the media provided real in-depth coverage? But no, it is presented as stand-alone news, like it doesn't have any effect on anything else around it.
I wonder if Bush would have even come close to having enough votes to steal an election in 2000, if the media had filled us in on the backgrounds of the people he surrounded himself with - like Cheney et al. I keep learning new things about old news - connections between this administration and the Nixon administration, for example, that have me screaming "Why didn't they tell us this stuff before the electiom in 2000 or even 2004!?!"
And now our little empire is on it's way down, like the British Empire before us and all 8 years of Bush have managed to do has been to hasten our decline. Don't believe me? The CIA released a study about 3 years ago indicating that the US would lose it's rank as the number one superpower (in all respects, not just or even partly in military and political power) in about 15 years - and that was much less time than it was before January 2001.
You had to be looking at the little tiny articles buried in the back pages of the paper to read about it; that was one story that didn't come close to making it onto the front page, let alone an evening news program.
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I read about this, and...
There MIGHT be some ties to the two things, but in the end, the kid is just stupid. Honestly, developers can't account for morons who think they can emulate (hey, I made a joke!) what they see in video games, just like the WWE isn't going to put disclaimers on the Hulkster's Speedo.
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this..
and people speed to show off and over estimae their driving abilities
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Good article
thanks for your awesome post.
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