Next-Gen DVD Copy Protection Well And Truly Busted
from the get-over-it dept
Crackers had already managed to break the DRM on both the HD DVD and Blu-ray next-generation DVD technologies, but now the Advanced Access Content System (AACS) copy-protection technology has been further undermined. Another cracker reported last week that he'd discovered another one of the keys the system uses to decode encrypted content -- without doing any reverse engineering or using any special tools, just a hex editor. While the group behind AACS says that the latest crack is no big deal because it can issue new keys, but the crackers say the technique used here will make it easy to discover them, and releasing new keys would mean that current players that can't be updated wouldn't be able to play new movies, which certainly wouldn't annoy anybody that's dropped several hundred bucks on one of the new machines. So, it's time for Hollywood to own up to the fact that this latest DRM scheme is a bust, with The Guardian pointing out that the crackers were surprised at just how easy it was to defeat. Hollywood should use this episode to understand that it's pointless to keep throwing resources at DRM and copy-protection technology, because it simply doesn't work. It will be interesting to see how AACS and the movie studios respond: breaking current players' compatibility with new movies would certainly undermine the claim that DRM makes things better for consumers.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Can you add any more misinformation
B) The key that would be replaced would be for a software player; either WinDVD 8 or Power DVD 6.5. The people that have "dropped several hundred bucks" will not be affected. No hardware HD-DVD player (or even DVD player) has ever been cracked.
C) It is not "well and truly busted". It is busted in exactly the way they anticipated it would be busted. It is a bit early to proclaim the battle over.
You guys have turned from reporting and commenting to just outright cheerleading. No one is suggesting that you ever claimed to be unbiased, but your bias is beginning to cloud your judgment.
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Re: Can you add any more misinformation
They didn't extract the player key, well that's what was initially done. Arnezami, a doom9 member, was able to track down the Processing Key, which is like the "master key", and revoking this one is a much more complicated process. I would recommend reading this guide to understanding AACS by arenzami if you are interested how it all works. you can find it here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=122363
you are correct on point C though, AACS hasn't been cracked, but an effective method to circumvent it has been achieved.
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Alex your wrong
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Not such a big deal yet...
Until burners are out for either format, and are cheap enough combined with the wide availability of blank media...
Or
Everyone goes out and invests in a TB+ sized harddrive so they can hold a reasonable collection..
This whole thing will be largely semantics...
As fast as many peoples internet access is these days is it really a logical assumption that people are going to download all sorts of 20-30GB high def movies...
If everyone had 1Gig FTH and all the ISP's and backbones could sustain wirespeed to everyone then of course there'd be chaos...
Lets face it... 90% of what Hollywood produces is crap, now it just looks a little nicer...
Microsoft and certain software companies I can see crying over theft more because practically everyone with a PC has or had of copy of xyz software, thats their bread and butter and only revenue stream...
A lot of people still buy movies and music to get the jewel case, the inserts, the extras...
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Heh, its a new phase.
So it isn't semantics, archiving HD is now possible. Is it probable? Not really, but the point has always been about fair use that we have a right back up the items we buy.
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Keys, keys, and more keys
I had thought the processing key was derived from the device key (what I was calling the player key), and it is...kind of. Apparently getting the processing key makes cracking current discs easier because you don't need to find the media key block on the disc.
But it is my understanding from reading that info that all the AACS people have to do is change the required processing keys for new discs to make discs unreadable with this crack, which is something they would have to do anyway when revoking a device key. Of course, this assumes they revoke the device keys and fix the player in question so the doom9 crowd don't get the new processing keys as well. All in all, this hardly seems like the final crack to end all cracks.
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My gf has a nice buttcrack
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Re: My gf has a nice buttcrack
yea?...how long does it take to blow her up?
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Re: My gf has a nice buttcrack
Just post the pics of your girlfriend's crack somewhere and let us decide whether it is nice... This way if it is indeed nice you will have the awe and respect of your peers...
Otherwise we assume you do indeed have to blow her up...
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it's just what happens when it's all 0's and 1's
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DRM has always been a joke
DRM does not work, has never worked, and never will work. It's just some toy for bored geeks to play with. It's like some puzzle challange in the sunday paper that cost millions/billions to make. Good job wasting money. Shows how much they care about the artists they are supposed to represent.
For some real fun, they need to get those PS3 keys out there just to really piss Sony off and make them a bigger mockery. Of course, no one is really buying PS3's, and don't want to do too much to help Blu-Ray sales. But using a PS3 to rip Blu-Ray movies would be poetic justice. Get all those keys revoked and have them stop working. This will be done soon enough.
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RE: the downloading of HD debate
There will be new compression formats to take these behemoth files and compress them so that we will be able to share them.
it has been happenning for years, as the file formats get larger, bandwidth gets larger, and people come up with different ways of sharing them
in the days of napster would you have thought of downloading a whole album at the same time? doubtful. Would you think about it twice now, doubtful.
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Re: RE: the downloading of HD debate
You've hit the nail on the head. That's exactly what's
going to happen. The ISPs had better get ready for
a huge surge in bandwidth usage.
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Copy protection fix
That's the fix! If someone is given an option of two movies, and the quality and cost are exactly the same, but one is illegal and can land you in serious trouble, and the other is legal, who's gonna pick the illegal version?
These film companies need to realize this, and, say, the day after a movie comes out in a theater, release a low-quality copy, and a discounted price. Yes, the theatres will be p***ed off, but screw them, they already make a KILLING off of $3 drinks and $4 popcorn. No, it won't solve all the piracy problems, but it would at least show everyone that the producers are willing to compete with piracy, instead of taking a hard-handed, brick-wall stance against it.
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Cracking DRM
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Cracking DRM
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