Will The UK Ban Stephen King Books Next?
from the oh,-the-horror dept
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Of course it's going to be horrible...
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Bascially banning over there is like Sueing And the RIAA in the U.S.
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The only groups that prejudice is allowed against is fundamentalist Christians.
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Censorship
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fundies
Anyway, mike typo on the last sentence? show way up?
also, this represents the stupid crap epople are, there's no other way to describe attempting to censor a single game as if it makes some kind of difference.
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Typo? epople?
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Umm yeah as an American we don't got to listen to em. But when they go out of their way to get involved in MY life, I have reason to have severe disrespect for such people.
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"The only groups that prejudice is allowed against is fundamentalist Christians."
interesting that you turn a blind eye against the allowed prejudice towards atheists. of course, we're immoral, godless sinners who are going to burn in hell; i don't see why you'd even notice.
@Seriously
"And the argument as to why video games are to be dealt with differently than movies and books is that they're interactive."
interesting argument, it's too bad there's no supporting evidence what-so-ever for the interactivity of video games causing them to be any worse than any other type of violent media.
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ever since i was young i recall being told by politicians and annoying mothers, who would rather be rabble-rousing than, get this, mothering, that by ripping my friends head and spine off, in the still-kick-ass-video-game mortal kombat, that i'd turn into some crazed, violent youth hell bent on imitating the things i did in those video games. what amazes me the most is that all these years later, when there's observable evidence that video games DON'T cause violent behavior, that this is still a soapbox issue with politicians and another generation of mothers who are inept at mothering. hint: if there was a CAUSAL relationship between playing violent games and violent behavior manifesting then myself and the hordes of others who competed trying to mutilate the other would be in quite different situations than we now find ourselves in.
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actually no, theres incentives to... push buttons. oh, horror!
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crap, i was wrong...the incentive is to, what shake a stick?
we're dooooomed!
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Bascially banning over there is like Sueing And the RIAA in the U.S."
The U.K isn't actually that bad when it comes to games. It's not really that bad in general. Monty Python, for example, wasn't widely banned. "Life Of Brian" was banned in many parishes (a lot of which didn't even have a cinema in their borders) simply because no one actually bothered to make sure it's not a parody of Jesus. Which it isn't.
Manhunt 2 is probably up for banning because of some murder case we had a while back which blamed Manhunt (it later turned out that it was the kid who was killed who actually owned the game, not the other way around). They probably just can't be bothered going through all the negative press of various groups claiming they suck because they allowed it to be released.
Plus, seriously, Manhunt isn't even that good a game. I doubt Manhunt 2 will be any better.
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For the record I don't mean The War on Terror.
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Re: Will the US stop exporting murderous, vile cra
Anyway on the topic at hand,
A game is a game, don't like it, don't play it. Don't want your kids to play it then try something new...parenting.
As a father of two I decide what my kids don't do and do.
I also teach them the difference between what's on the screen and real life to handle those moments (like at a friend's house) when I am not present. My kids make straight As (or near to it most report cards) We listen to music like Korn, Mariln Manson, KMFDM. Watch zombie movies and play every video game that we can get our hands on. Violence in children (and adults) comes from being the victims of violence. Either at the hands of adults or their peers. Not from the game/music/books/TV.
Nothing, no ban, no rating beats good parenting. I personally wish people would stop cesoring and just start parenting. Either that or stop breeding.
Make what ever game/movie/book you want people. If it sucks then no one will buy it.
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Manhunt 2 just got a preliminary AO rating here in the States. Looks like the UK's not the only place worried about the game.
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The system works, people are broke...
We wouldn't even need the ratings if people still believed in personal responsibilty and took a more active role in their children's upbringing.
If the UK really wants to shield children from violent media, they should start by censoring the television news, which I don't let my kid watch, by the way.
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Clearly you weren't around in the UK during the 80s - calls to ban movies ("Video Nasties") resulted in the Video Recordings Act - the very law used to ban Manhunt 2.
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Weapons and killing is okay as long as they are not modern looking. (Swords, Muskets) (Freak Video Camera looking Ray Gun)
For example, Halo, you're shooting Aliens that look nothing like Humans, and even if they did, the weapons are funky.
Every kid plays Cowboys and Idians, Cops and Robers Scince a hell of a long time. (Thank you Wired)
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Duh
Clearly he didn't bother to do any research before pulling a sensationalist title out of his ass either.
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Fallout 3
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(Incidentally, I work 3 offices down from the Rockstar buildings where the game is developed, and saw them in the pub as happy as Larry - they obviously know that a ban on the game is pretty much the best thing that could happen to promote their game.)
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You'd think the lessons of the past would teach people where 'banning' can lead.
I think 'power' not only corrupts the soul, but the mind too. How many politicians would the world consider 'smart'?
Plus - it'll just generate a re-sales market on e-bay for it.
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