How Far Are We Away From Teleportation?
from the beam-me-up-scotty dept
Three years ago, scientists were able to successfully teleport the quantum state of an atom without any physical link. Since first understanding quantum entanglement nearly six years ago, how much closer are we now to human teleportation? It sounds like we're not that much closer. Scientists have been focusing more on transferring the atomic state of one atom to another in a different physical location. However, since the process of transmission destroys the original atom, multiple copies of the atom are not being created. That said, Star Trek style teleportation may not even require complete transmission of the quantum state. Charles Bennett, of IBM Research, believes that in principle, human teleportation would be possible by scanning the bio-molecular structure. He states that the "teleported person would end up slightly different, but not in a biologically important way." However, we are still clearly quite a ways away from even attempting such a feat to be truly concerned about the ramifications yet -- we are made up of approximately 1028 atoms, so the technology to scan and reproduce at such a scale is not even remotely possible yet. So, while theoretically possible, scientists are pessimistic about teleportation's realistic feasibility. For now, it looks like the only teleportation we'll be seeing is on television -- but then again, never underestimate the ingenuity of inventors and entrepreneurs.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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And of course, then you have the decay as each transport causes each copy to become less and less perfect; deviating off from the original until cancer, retardation or any other number of disasters set in.
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You say it creates the delimea of a copy? No duh. That's not a big deal.
Then you talk about degradation...there needn't be any. Once this is possible the copy would be created from digital data, and there is no loss of quality/integrity when it comes to digital reproductions.
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Donating money to a time-traveling device research fund could relate to almost anything; you could say you were donating to a charity that would at some point be able to find a cure for cancer.
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I feel if more people felt this way, we might achieve the final goal.
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Impossible Things in History
People in the 1850's said black people would never be free. Tell that to Rosa Parks.
In the 1860's, someone mentioned in a newspaper (I forget which) that someone has asked why trains ran on a railroad track, and found the question absurd enough to run an editorial about people using their brains before writing a letter to the newspaper's advice column, and that steering a locomotive at 30 miles per hour would never be practical because of the weight ratios involved. The horseless carriage was invented in 1873 in Racine, Wisconsin.
In the 1870's, most people considered the dream of human flight to be impossible. Let's not tell the Wright Brothers, who flew the first powered flight in December of 1903.
In the 1900's, it was said that radio would never reach a national audience.
In the 1920's, the idea of transmitting pictures over a radio signal was positively absurd. Television was demonstrated in 1935, and RCA developed the first color television in 1941. HDTV was considered impossible in 1960 because digital signal compression technology hadn't been invented yet. Today there is a television in every home.
In the 1940's, it was said that computers would never be practical for the average Fortune 500 company. In 1960, it was said that only the largest companies would ever be able to own a computer. In the 1970's, it was considered impractical to have a home computer, and networks were never going to be necessary for in-home use... though they might be a playtoy for the filthy rich.
In the 1950's, they said black people would never be a part of polite society, or even hold political office. Tell that to Barack Obama.
In the 1950's, they also said no human could withstand travel at above the speed of sound. In the 1970's, Concorde unveiled its SST passenger jets.
In the 1980's, it was impossible to have an international computer network infrastructure with enough bandwidth to service the whole world. Only businesses and colleges would ever need it anyway.
All of this illustrates two very basic rules:
1) With enough repetition, costs for technology come down.
2) With enough study, the impossible can be made possible, if technically feasible.
The only question in my mind is how long it's going to take us to get there. I doubt it will be in my lifetime.
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i mean, it would take a lot of balls to step into that hypothetical teleportation machine knowing that you were going to be incinerated while some shmuck that doesn't even exist yet is going to get all your memories, your looks, get to bang your wife, AND get to go where YOU wanted to go.
count me out. i didn't want to see endor that bad anyway.
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Put simply, a rock teleported 10m into the air has a relative momentum of zero. Since that rock is inside Earth's gravity field (assuming the teleportation experiment happened here) it would then be acted upon by the gravitational force wherein the rock would accelerate at 9.81m/s² towards the ground.
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go learn something
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Piss off!
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> who reads your posts know less.
That's an awful elitist attitude from someone who apparently doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're".
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That's due to the Hiesenberg (sp?) Uncertainty Principle.
Not to worry..that's why transporters have Hisenberg Compensators.
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Jesus Christ Dennis
I mean WTF ?!
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Step one: Climb the fence into an electrical substation with the warning not to climb the fence. Step two: reach up and touch something the signs say you'll die if you touch them.
Instant teleportation! The matter left behind isn't expectly human in appearance nor aroma, but there has yet to be anyone return to claim it.
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But would the new person have memories and personality same as the original? what is a person? is there a soul? if you believe this then teleportation would never ever work in this way unless you could teleport the nonphysical essence of a life as well.
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1028 atoms?
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10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 atoms
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Open a window once in awhile, chat up a bimbo at a bar, or maybe even move out of mom's house ;)
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But this could be used for other uses.
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I'll settle for genuinely immersive telepresence
That would be just as good as teleportation, without all that messy transfer of your mass times c^2 amounts of energy which teleportation is usually expected to require..
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First steps in teleportation.
Then once we have that down practically, maybe the next step is true wireless power transmission. Space based power generation (such as huge solar panels maybe?) delivering wireless power to earth? Maybe a designated location for all of a nation's nuclear power generation and teleport the energy needs to where it's needed? Powering a space probe remotely so it never runs out of "fuel"? Lot's of possibilities if the science is possible.
Finally a workable transport mechanism to send things and ourselves anywhere. Faster than light travel in the purest sense.
Exciting times, if the science can prove all this possible, let alone practical.
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It's been done...
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i really doubt living beings can be teleported though.
the sum of the composing elements in a living being is not all that makes that being.
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Portal on the Mind?
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Welcome to the Aperture Science Enrichment Center.
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Durka Durka.
Blah.
Roughly translated, the above seems to imply you're a complete moron. Apparently, it was an attempt to speak your native language, "Retard".
Unfortunately, we can't all be as stupid as you.
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10^28 = 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 * 10 = 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Does 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 sound the same as 4000?
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I predict teleportation will become commonplace
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Didn't Einstein say...
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In reading the commentary in this article I can really see the validity of that statement.
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Doubt it could ever be done!
Also, you have to have a computer that 'remembers' where every single one of those 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 atoms is at the time of capture, plus the direction they were travelling in. Hmm.
What kind of scanning device would do that? You'd need one hell of a RAID cluster of hard drives, and something that offers considerably more than 4,800 dpi resolution :-)
Let's stick to something easier, like time travel, invisibility or X ray specs...
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For all the idiots who seem to think teleportation
In order to teleport a living, self-aware, animate object (such as a human), you need to be able to transmit enough information to preserve the objects consciousness.
Transmitting a body might be ok - as long as you can do things like keep all the iron atoms located in the right place in the heamoglobin, it would probably be enough to keep the body alive.
But to transmit a human mind, you would need to be able to carry (at least) the exact position and momentum of every electon, proton, neutron and every other particle in the brain.
This is explicitly ruled out by Heisenbergs uncertainty principle.
Also, as Peter Thomas points out, atomic teleportation requires so much energy (without even considering the cost of assembling your particles back into something more advanced than elemental mush), it's just not wortht.
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no teleport?
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You'uns is certainly going to get mad at this one
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When scientists discover something it could take them years, decades, or centuries to completely understand it. Not to mention to figure a way to utilize there discovery. I think teleportation may be possible, but they have to fix that whole "teleported person would end up slightly different, but not in a biologically important way." Regardless, I say 50 years minimum before we see any real progress.
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The Science of the Soul presents and explains the overwhelming scientific evidence discovered during the last 100 years that leads to the conclusion that each human being has a supernatural soul. The science upon which this is based is mainstream science including biology, quantum physics, and math. It is not based on paranormal occurrences, parapsychology, extrasensory perception, out-of-body experiences, or near-death experiences. The book identifies human capabilities and characteristics that cannot be explained by science as natural phenomenon and which are thus “supernatural” phenomenon. The book does not require an understanding of physics, chemistry, or mathematics and does not include solving any mathematical equations.
The book also examines statements by prominent scientists that are in agreement with the above-described conclusion. These scientists include:
Albert Einstein (developed the theory of relativity and contributed to the development of quantum physics), Charles Darwin (developed the theory of evolution), Stephen Hawking (astrophysicist), Werner Heisenberg (discoverer of the Heisenber uncertainty principle of quantum physics), Niels Bohr (contributed to the development of quantum physics), Erwin Schrödinger (developed the Schrödinger wave equation of quantum physics), William Provine (Cornell University professor of biological science and the history of science), Steven Weinberg (astrophysicist and winner of Nobel Prize), Marvin Minsky (MIT researcher in artificial intelligence), Richard Dawkins (Charles Simonyi professor of the public understanding of science, Oxford University and author of books on evolution), Sir John Eccles (winner of Nobel Prize for brain research), Henry Stapp (physicist at Lawrence Livermore Laboratory of the University of California, Berkeley) and others.
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Let me summarize it...
Are we any closer to teleportation than we were last time we reported this? No, no we arent. Now im going to pad this out for a whole paragraph, link to old articles with dead links instead of researching them myself and making sure they all still work. And then, to top it off, im going to put a Headline on it that makes people click their RSS feeds.
Goodo, thats 10 mins of my life im never going to get back. All for a little ad revenue.
You sir should be in the stocks.
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Think of the military implications
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I wouldn't want to risk teleportation if I were unsure of a 'Hi-Def' re-materialization. Too many parts of me are too important to me to trust to an imperfect transmission...
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I love thinking about having 'tendencies to behave' and probabilities. As long as we enjoy this discussion, we will evolve.
The more I learn about quantum mechanics and all that good stuff, the more excited I get about the future. We are just beginning to get it.
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Death by Teleportation
And of course, in the end it's because they didn't believe that people have souls because they couldn't see them or measure them.
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1028 atoms
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And of course, in the end it's because they didn't believe that people have souls because they couldn't see them or measure them."
Sounds about as exciting as watching paint dry, but I'm sure it will be a big hit among the religious fanatics!
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The Prestige???
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How Far Are We Away From Teleportation?
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unbelievable
Stick to technology techdirters.
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Soul research
Science of the SOUL, GOOGLED; 37,900,000 HITS
Teleportation, GOOGLED; 1,980,000 HITS
And we all know of Google's reputation and long standing as a useful research tool...
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Teleportation is as old as recorded History
Genesis 28:12
Genesis John 1:51
I Thessalonians 4:16 & 17
Revelation 11:12
John 20:19 & 20
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Two big problems:
We have a lot of 'courage' pointing guns at everyone, and jailing them for stuff like smoking pot. But we lack moral courage in a very serious way.
And our technological science far exceeds our moral and ethical ability.
This being the case, mankind's development is pretty well crippled. No about of technological science will fix moral issues. Until humanity comes together I don't see anything like this working.
For if they did invent this - what purpose would it have? To eliminate the need for cars (not if the oil and auto companies have anything to say about it)? To teleport food to starving people? Or to teleport troops and bombs to the enemy?
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This is all based on assumptions
The original post sounds more like a duplication machine than transporter. Also, why would the original have to be destroyed? Is it just to TRICK us to thinking that the person/thing was transported? More likely, the best way to utilize this bogus technology would be to have such information of scans of food/products in memory, then have them created on demand. Dare I say it, much like Star Trek's replicators.
This stuff was talked about 2 years ago:
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/maney/2005-06-14-replicator_x.htm
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I just want my Jetson's tube travel and flying car
Let's put more people to work on that tube travel technology though... now that's something I can get behind and see real potential for in my lifetime. I'd almost give up my dream for a personal flying car if I could just shoot down a tube and get to work.
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Needlecast and re-sleeve, not teleport
So you need to go to Mars: Your sleeve (body) stays here on Earth in hibernation, while you're needlecast to Mars, and downloaded into a loaner sleeve.
The super rich have designer clones waiting in hibernation in case they get killed or seriously disfigured.
Of course, the Catholics are against technology that verges on real immortality, so they sign waivers against re-sleeving and accept real death.
I suggest you read the excellent work by Richard K. Morgan, who has done much research into these matters.
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none at all
And hello dude, maybe you were joking, maybe you weren't, the fact is that you said it and it was a dumb thing to say. You'd rather say something about "souls" than kidding with numbers. Imho.
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I am somewhat in agreement with the poster, Kirk. *Why* does the scanner destroy or disrupt the object/organism that is to be scanned?
Is there no way to come up with a type of scanner that can scan the object/organism without damaging it or disturbing it's current state?
If a non-disruptive/destructive scanner could be designed, built and used then, what should/would be done with the scan subject (original object/individual) once the teleported object/individual were brought into existance?
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Real Teleport don't destroy and built things, only MOVES it.
Or better, the thing don't move, is the space/time that is warped. You open a hole (with a strong magnetic field tuned on certain frequency) in the continuum of space/time and all is on it will fall into this "hole" and reappear immediately in another point of space/time. (another hole tuned? this is still a mistery, need experiments..)
This is the REAL teleport.
Legend said that Einstein teleported a ship (Philadelphia Experiment) by sorround them in a magnetic field tuned to the frequency of Earth magnetic field.
Nikola Tesla too is said to have teleported some things in this lab by experimenting on magnetic field.. (probably in the same way of Einstein)
THIS IS THE WAY TO GO AND RESEARCH, in my opinion. (not fax or cloning things..)
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In the summer of 1962 I called my wife, she was my girlfriend then, who lived half-way across town. She was at home and it was hot outside.
I told her that I would walk. She said it was not wise. I told her that I would be okay.
I stepped outside the front door of my home, blacked out and 1 minute later was in front of her home's front door.
I knocked and she answered.
She believed that I was playing a trick on her and called from the neighbors.
1. The neighbors' homes were too far away for me to get to her house in a minute. and 2. cell phones were not in use at that time.
She said that she had only taken a few seconds to answer may knock at the door.
She will confirm what I have written if you wish to write her at either jjohnstomick@hotmail.com or jjohnstonmick@gmail.com.
I know this does not prove it, but she experienced a sudden lapse of time between our calls as I did by my arriving when I did.
It only happened once and never again. How it happened, I do not know.
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interesting that teleport seems to be referenced in many historically written and oral traditions.
maybe teleport is available but the combination of events that would allow it to occur can knot occur without a catalyst of sorts.
why it would work?
why it would knot work?
the intersecting lines of thought could give some clues. i do knot believe that the elimination of "what is possible and what is knot" gives a complete answer. especially if the answer is hidden! while the question is knot! how would you like someone to teleport into your home? could you tell if someone teleported right next to you?
my personal starting points is:
does thought have mass? it has been shown to operate as a wave. second is E=mc2. we seem to have looked carefully at the c2 and the m. but hidden within the equation is multiple references to constants. do constants truely stay the same at light speeds? does the constant pi remain the same? does the mathematics stay relavent at certain constants?
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