Brazil Bans Bully And A Bunch Of Blogs
from the can't-stop-banning dept
Brazil seems to be really into banning things online these days. You may recall the totally pointless ban on YouTube to hide a single video (which a lot more people saw after the ban was put in place). Eventually the courts reversed the ban and even required the model whose video resulted in the ban to pay Google as compensation for the unnecessary ban. Even with that experience, however, it looks like the Brazilian courts are prone to overreacting and broadly banning anything it doesn't like.First up is the news that a Brazilian court has banned the sale of the video game Bully. This would be the same video game that Jack Thompson went to court to have banned even though he had never played it -- and even though anti-bullying activists praised the game, noting that it really was no different than movies like Rushmore or Napoleon Dynamite. The judge's explanation for the ban is a bit weak: "The aggravating factor is that everything in the game takes place inside a school." I really don't see how that matters. The game is about a kid learning to deal with different cliques and factions in a school. That seems rather realistic. Does the judge think that real life cliques in schools will suddenly disappear if this game is unavailable? Perhaps Stephen King can head to Brazil and convince them why this is wrong.
On top of that, news is coming out that a Brazilian court has also banned access to Wordpress.com, one of the most popular blog hosting sites around. It looks quite similar to the YouTube situation, where the judge really just wanted a single blog banned, but without an easy way to do that, ISPs are blocking the entire site and every blog carried on Wordpress. This is, just as with the other bans, a total overreaction. Not only will it call more attention to the "problem" blog, it will piss off and inconvenience a ton of totally innocent people as well.
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Re: Another side note...
-We do not want to rot.
-We do not invade countries on lies and let our soldiers die pointlessly.
-We do not have students machine gunning their classmates.
-We do not drive stupid SUVs.
-Our president does not get blow jobs at work.
-We are the size of the US.
-We have 16% of the fresh water of the world.
-We have 30% of the biodiversity of the planet.
-Our society does not melt down when a breast shows on TV.
-Our car fleet run. on ethanol that DOES NOT COME FROM STUPID CORN.
-We are not a nation of obese cardiopaths.
And, contrarily to the US that really seems not to care about anything but their oil burning, subprime crashing, war loosing, president lying, decadent ass, Brazil does care about the rest of the world. Good luck to you "friendo".
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Are you sure?
"A decisão, portanto, poderá deixar o serviço WordPress indisponível assim que os primeiros provedores efetuem o bloqueio. A Abranet explica que não pode deixar de cumprir uma decisão da Justiça, porém enviará carta ao Tribunal paulista explicando as dificuldades técnicas que a medida exige."
http://www.wordpressbrasil.com/2008/justica-pode-bloquear-wordpress-no-brasil/
The IPs say that the judge should order wordpress to block access to the offending blog but, if he doesn't and insist in his order then the only solution is to ban access to wordpress.
The judge, in my opinion, didn't think this through.
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It doesn't look like he's mistaken at all. However, I agree with you that the judge didn't put a whole lot of thought into the decision.
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Fuck you powerkor -.-
At least we're not ignorants who dont even know the difference between latin america and europe or muslins and catolics... Fuck you! Grow up first... If you think you can, come here to Brazil and I'll kick your bitchy little ass -.-
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Re: Fuck you powerkor -.-
That first paragraph could use a comma in a few places, & can we guess where an apostrophe should have went.. Its not "catolics".. Its Catholic's.. I'm just pointing it out because you need to know these things, so you don't embarrass yourself again.
One more point Terramel.. You really shouldn't threaten people you don't know. Its a dangerous business these days.
Lighten up.. get professional help.. I'm telling you these things because i care! (jk)
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I'm just pointing it out because you need to know these things so you don't embarrass yourself again.
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I have to admit, I did have an agenda to bring out the 'haters' (I could only have hoped for so much vigor)
Additionally, on the point of arguing: People who are arguing against and/or supporting my comment are still missing the point... I enjoy the humor however. It fills my day with laughter.
Lastly, on the point of grammar: I do feel people need to care a bit more about their grammar... but at the same time not nitpick grammar errors to death.
Captain Obvious says: These posting rules should go without saying, but I feel for some reason, not everyone has met Captain Obvious. Let me acquaint you.
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Poor judgement judge
That's not even true, so if that's a real comment by the judge, he's not played it himself (unsurprising), but the game hasn't even been represented properly. As you can see (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Bump500/Stuff/scan100243in1verysmall.jpg), only about a fifth or less of the map is actually in the school, Bullworth Academy.
I'm glad that so much research has been done into this court case to allow such an incorrect statement to come fmo it.
Oh, and not forgetting... IT'S A GAME FOR FUCKS SAKE!
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Terramel you are the ignorant one
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Rear-view mirror
I'm not complaining. The US has too much international competition as it is. Let's just move along and wave "BYE BYE" to Brazil in the rear-view mirror of progress. They're determined to remain a 2nd-world nation and that's their right.
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WHO CARES
Brazil, Turkey, Thailand, ....
Who cares.
Let the countries do it.
Their people will clamer for access. And eventually out the officials.
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If you dont like it, The Traveller, come to Brazil and get your ass kicked by the Brazilian Karate Champion... And I also never said something bad about your country. What I said was about ignorant assholes like you and Powerkor... And you're pooping trough your mouth... You have shit inside your head... If you dont like brazilians, go give Adolf Hitler a blowjob... Our government may be a piece of shit, but we arent... And if our government is doing this, we really need to fight against it... Oh my dear, if you think our technology is poor, please do some research about who invented the airplane... I know that you probably think it was the Wright Brothers, but it wasnt... Do you know who was Santos Dummont? About music, go listen to your 50 cent and think of yourself as a "gansta" and show the world how good you are in pimping and doing drugs... By the way... Do you know who was Villa Lobos?
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Terramel
And who gives a shit if I need to put some commas in my previous comments or if I made a mistake when I wrote catholics? What the fuck? English IS NOT my first language... I never had an english course, I never travell to another country and I dont even know foreign people to speak with in english... The little I can speak was because I listen to a lot of Heavy Metal and because I read a lot of stuff in internet... What about you, my dear friend? How many languages can you speak? By the way, I was here just commenting... I'm not here to became an english teacher...
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I'm more like Bruce Lee...
PS: Hoyce??? I tought his name was Royce O.o
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As for banning the blog, I'm loathe to pass judgement without knowing what the blog itself was banned for, though if it's being used to solicit murder or something I don't see why Wordpress couldn't take it down themselves. If for whatever reason they choose not to do so -and I'm not sure I quite believe their claim that it's technically impossible to block access to the blog in just one country- then I can hardly blame Brazil for banning web services whose owners refuse to comply with the law.
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Terramel the hypocrite
“Probably just an ignorant little boy who knows shit about the world you live and about your own country! At least we're better than you and your people!”
What you should really thing about doing is learning about the other countries, figuring out how you can assist YOUR poorly informed government see the light about technology.
As for your delusion of Santos Dumont being the founder of aviation, I got some news for you buddy, the Wright brother flew a plain 3 years before Dumont did. Further more, I will admit he was a pioneer in aviation, but he did ALL of his work while in Paris NOT Brazil, and you people named him the father of Aviation, just because you history books are again bias probably due to your idiotic government doesn’t mean your right.
And for the record Villa-Lobos was the best known composer from South-America… sadly he took all of his styles from the European classical tradition due to the fact that Brazil had no styles of music at the time work composing about.
And once again you lump all people into one category, showing your inferiority in both debating and logic
“About music, go listen to your 50 cent and think of yourself as a "gansta" and show the world how good you are in pimping and doing drugs...”
Do you even know what R&B or Rap is even about? Do you actually listen to the music or do you just hear the word ‘Drug and Sex’ and then ignorantly assume that all of us do drugs and have mindless sex.
Before you throw facts around you need to know who they are yourself before you decide to try and use them as ammo for you technology digressing country.
I have been to Brazil on a company excursion, it’s a nice country, your people are nice, but you and your government are more retarded then new born dung beetle with down syndrome.
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Over all this article was an interesting read.
Have to say if true that they blocked a website because it said bad things about their country than hate to tell em but they might want to block the whole internet. Let's face it Terramel is the norm on the internet not the exception, and the internet is full of insults.
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Traveller
You said that Wright Brothers invented the airplane 3 years earlier, but wait... Why the only proof they have is a photo that was only showed after Santos Dummont public flight?? It's easy to show a picture and say that it's older than it really is... -.- In this case it was YOUR government who wanted to get some credits... And should I really care if Dummont's flight was in France? What matters is that he was brazilian.. Only one more thing to think about this subject... In the Great War, Dummont killed himself when he saw what was being done with his invention.. he inveted the airplane to help people, and when he saw it being used to harm and kill people he became so upset that he took his own life... Would a man take his own life because of an invention that wasnt his? I dont think so.
About Villa-Lobos, he wrote great songs and yes, his influence was european music, but classical music is something that came from europe, and his main goal was to put a little of the greatness of our country and of our music in his music... Have you ever wondered why his masterpiece is called "Bachianas Brasileiras" (Brazilian Bachianas)? Because it have musical influence from Brazil... Otherwise it would probably be called "Villa-Lobos' Bachianas" or something like that... By the way, in his days he used to walk and play music with free slaves and other black musicians like Cartola that used to play samba... Villa-Lobos merged some of it in other musics, like "Choros"... There's even one song where he uses a choir of brazilian indians...
About 50 cent, ok, I dont like rap... My favorite style is Heavy Metal and Hard Rock, but you used to make some good rap, with good songs and who talked about freedom and rights, but now, all rap musicians suck. All they do is talk about sex, money, pimps, bitches and dance... OMG... And other kinds of music are sucking too (emo crap, like Simple Plan ;/) What happened with the good bands you used to have like Twisted Sister, Extreme, Guns n Roses, Skid Row, Ugly Kid Joe ;//// We have here lame music too, but there are good bands still doing music (unfortunately not shown on TV and radios), like: Angra, Shaaman, Eterna, Ceremonya, Dr. Sin, Tropa de Shock...
And one more stuff: I wasn't saying bullshit about your country or about americans... That Powerkor was the asshole who said bad things about my country and about our people... I know our government sucks, our president is an idiot (just like yours - but hopefully Barack Obama will win the elections and probably he'll became a great president) and there's a lot of idiots arounds here (just like there's a lot of idiots everywhere, but just think about it before calling brazilian people stupid: do you know who is Marcelo Tosatti? He's brazilian, when he was 18 years old, Linus Torvalds choose him to maintain the version 2.4 of the kernel.. What about Alfredo Kojima who created Window Maker? Conectiva (before it was Mandriva) created one of the greatest distros before it became Mandriva... And Conectiva created the apt-rpm)... Not you, nor anyone else have the right to say bad things about my country. And whatever happens here, I'll never stop loving it... I LOVE BRASIL! This time we need more than ever to fight for freedom. Like I said in my blog, freedom of speech is important.. How dare people like Powerkor call this block a "little issue"???? It's not a little issue. It's against freedom.. It's bad for us brazilians because the government is shutting us down, bad for Automattic because 1 million blogs will make a huge impact on their business, and bad for americans who have blogs in Wordpress.com, because there are also lots of people reading wordpress.com.. Freedom of speech is never a little issue -.-
Just think about it...
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Alliteration anyone?
Rockstar resists regulations, requests removal of restrictions
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The "Brazilian" idiots are pouring out in mass!
~As for you list of stupidity, I am glad you dislike or president, and you are with 69% of the Americans. As Bush’s approval rate now has dropped to 21%. So good thing you know your facts as well!
~ Just because a few students go insane and start shooting up the place, doesn’t make all Americans bad. That’s like me saying you are a drug addict because you have drug lords down in “South America”
~Maybe your president SHOULD get a blow job, maybe he would loosen up and stop trying to hide his country from reality!
~Who cares about your size, your fresh water, or your biodiversity, this isn’t about your nature, this is about your people and your government, those facts have no baring on this debate and only show how little intelligence you have when focusing on a subject.
~ You say your society doesn’t melt down when a breast is shown on TV… you may be right… it just blocks the intent when someone writes in a blog that is negative towards your country! What hogwash!
~ Our Gas is quite reliable for the time being, and new renewable resources are being researched in the leading scientific labs in the world. What is brazil doing to advance civilization? Ohh wait there to busy hiding from it!
~we are a diverse nation that yes we have an obesity issue that we are working through, but at least we are diverse! Ever hear of the melting pot? Or was that banned because they where not talking about brazil?
What in gods creation is this sentence
“And, contrarily to the US that really seems not to care about anything but their oil burning, subprime crashing, war loosing, president lying, decadent ass, Brazil does care about the rest of the world. Good luck to you "friendo".”
And I ask you a simple question again since you are all high and mighty on yourself “What has Brazil done to assist in the advancement of civilization?”
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Ok, ok... what you said now is something like: "Why should I study Ancient Rome's history if it's all gone and I wont need it for my daily basis...."
"Just because a few students go insane and start shooting up the place, doesn’t make all Americans bad. That’s like me saying you are a drug addict because you have drug lords down in “South America”"
Most of the times, when there's smoke, there's fire... I've heard that there's also a lot of bulling in your schools...
"~Maybe your president SHOULD get a blow job, maybe he would loosen up and stop trying to hide his country from reality!"
Maybe he should... I dont know why he said about Clinton's blowjob... Powerkor called Wordpress' block a little issue... but Clinton's blowjob was an even smaller issue, sooo...
"~Who cares about your size, your fresh water, or your biodiversity, this isn’t about your nature, this is about your people and your government, those facts have no baring on this debate and only show how little intelligence you have when focusing on a subject."
My dear, we are geographically better.. you're not so good geographically, but you guys still keep fucking with your nature... you dont seem to care about the environment... Now tell me, who are the idiots?
"~ You say your society doesn’t melt down when a breast is shown on TV… you may be right… it just blocks the intent when someone writes in a blog that is negative towards your country! What hogwash!"
This is called censorship... We didn't have this some years ago... Our government is heading this way now, trying to control us and shut our mouths.. This is not our fault... You cant call the russian idiots because they where being controlled by Stalin some decades ago.. By the way, what do you have to say about the "Patriotic Act"?
"~ Our Gas is quite reliable for the time being, and new renewable resources are being researched in the leading scientific labs in the world. What is brazil doing to advance civilization? Ohh wait there to busy hiding from it!"
Hey, what about the mess that is your patents office? What about your contry voting YES for OOXML for ISO standart... At least our voted NO... What about Software Patents? We dont have this here...
"~we are a diverse nation that yes we have an obesity issue that we are working through, but at least we are diverse! Ever hear of the melting pot? Or was that banned because they where not talking about brazil?"
You only eat junk food... you need to get up from the computer and start working out... Turn of the TV, stop eating MacDonalds, drinking Coke, eating candy bars. Start eating some healthy food..
"~And I ask you a simple question again since you are all high and mighty on yourself “What has Brazil done to assist in the advancement of civilization?”
Actually, there are brazilians soldier in Haiti doing something to help... Of course, you can say that your soldiers are in Iraq, but your soldiers are bombing civilians, killing children and raping women -.-
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Point 1:
I speak three languages (four if you count Bad English), English, Deutsch, and Japanese. I will say that my grasp of the later two is not as well as it use to be but frankly I don't speak to often to a German or a Japanese so no chance for use.
(Also if you count programming languages I speak close to 20 languages 5 of which I would be fluent in).
Point 2:
I will agree that the issue of Clinton getting a blowjob was trite. I felt the real problem with the whole issue was the lying under oath part. I had no problem with him having sex with her or saying its none of our business but lying under oath I do have a problem with.
Point 3:
Your assumption that we are not taking care of our environment is wrong we have a huge conservation of our natural resources, in fact its to the point that one could claim we use up other countries so when everyone else is without we still will have ours. I will say that the opening of Alaskan Drilling was upsetting but I understand the reasoning, if we are to downgrade our dependence on foreign oil than we have to open up some our reserves to exploration. Can't have both in this situation. As for Brazil's recent environmentalism that is great but you have to remember your country was clear cutting the Amazon for years in the name of progress before it even considered slowing down. (I have mixed emotions on this one, clear cutting amazon bad, expanding usable land and encouraging economic development of your country good)
Point 4:
First off it is your fault that your government is going that way. Only the citizens can hold responsibility for the action of their government. If they find such actions to be detestable than it is their sovereign duty to rise up and overthrow their oppressive government. You can not lay blame on American's for the Iraq war and Patriot Act unless we are all held to the above belief. (So in other words Yes I do blame the Russians for the Stalin Goverment just as the Germans are blamed for their past, have the people learned a lesson well I hope so but only time will tell on that)
As to the Patriot Act, I would say it was a Bill that has been pushed many times that failed most of the time due to American resentment to the idea of being watched. The aftermath of a tragic event put our state of mind into paranoia and fear allowing such an Act to pass unopposed. I'm curious about you using such an Act, has Brazil recently suffered an attack that has caused your state of mind to be unnerved allowing the concept of censorship to be considered a good thing or is this mostly a I have no rebuttal so I will grab at straws. I personally feel the condition in which the Patriot Act was passed in is not the condition in which your country is in right now, this is to not say that I don't feel it is our fault for that Act I do and I voice my opinion often probably to the point that I'm on some list.
Point 5:
As for the OOXML, I had no problem with our voting Yes on this standard. I also have no problem with Brazil voting No. Frankly that is the point of having a standard is to look into what is best for all and try to get everyone to follow such. We felt OOXML was a good thing obviously the rest of the world felt it wasn't.
Also I like Software Patents, I think we need a revamp of the current Patent office (mostly due to out of date standards for allowing Patents and the methods in which they are tracked) but as for passing patents on my code saying its my code and no one else's code, I like. After all a great artist can protect his work from piracy and infringement why can't I as a coder protect mine?
Point 6:
I for one don't do most of the above items mentioned in this point. I never eat MacDonalds in fact such action places me in bed sick for weeks if I do such a thing. I rarely watch TV nor do I eat candy bars. Personally I find eating below a certain standard to have a negative impact on my body and I avoid such. I also hardly know anybody who does do the above. (I will admit to a dependence on Caffinee)
Point 7:
I do believe that advancement of civilization in this context wasn't to include military action, if such is allowed than you can easily pull up a list of where American soldiers are, you will see quickly that Iraq is not the only place we are. As for such I would look at more organizations such as Doctors with out Borders, Peace Corp, and other organizations that are either universally supported in which your country participates in or is funded by your country. (By the way the first we have many citizens that act in and the second is funded by us, Also just as an annoying side note 80-90% of the UN funding comes from America, personally I dislike the UN and would rather see it unfunded by us)
Over all Terramel this response is more in tune with what I have seen on GP from you, your first couple of posts were well frankly uneducated attacks in which you spewed profanity and threats, something that at first made me do a double take on your name and than assume it must be a troll that used a similar name (still could be a similar name though the post have become more articulate towards the end).
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I have yet to see a counter argument for my initial statement. The fact that your country blocks web sites, aka freedom of speech, only hurts your capacity to see the world for what it is. Why do you think they block blogs? Why are they afraid of the comments and opinions other people have?
Could it be that there is an ounce of truth in what I say? Why else would they have policies that deny themselves of learning anything outside of their bubble?
Just think about it... then I will permit you to flame me with your uneducated babble (no matter how many languages you can transalate it into).
But everyone can conclude that my initial post does in fact have some truth and I guess it just hurts your feelings too much. Deal with it. We don't all live in a bubble.
Blocking a web site is like the Nazi's burning books.
Same thing. Same mentality. For the win. Fin. The end. You lose.
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Is this so hard for you to understand?
I'm not fighting with you because of what you said about our government, but because of what you said about WE BRAZILIANS and about OUR COUNTRY!
Is this so hard to understand? Will this make your brain explode??
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And for the record this has to be the best line you have posted all day long
“In that post I said that the government is afraid of brazilian bloggers because they are telling the truth about our politics...”
Your government is afraid that people will know how technologically challenged they are on one aspect and ignorant on all others!
So you go be your bad self with the “Noob” comment! You just helped Powerkor show how utterly low class that you are… and if you are an example of your country, then the whole country could be wiped off the map and it would make the world a lot better.
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You are all a bunch of geeks
(the above was a joke)
Because of that stupid discussion no one answered my post (number 2) in which I say that apparently the judge didn't order the web providers to ban wordpress.
I really want to know for sure.
Thanks.
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This is sad...
I really didn't know that judges had the power to ban something like this here... I mean, that's extremely unfair and stupid, damn... I hate this country...
It's ever worse when those pseudo-nationalists show up trying to protect Brazil using the same pre-defined arguments they have been programmed by our own government to spew when someone says something "bad" about Brazil, it's shameful...
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And xenophobia are stronger in both, Brazil AND US.
but, shame all country because one judge, or a mistake in block olny one blog, are so ridicullous like the xenophobist's manifestations.
You shame all the country... What you expected? Applauses?
finishing i'm a brazilian, i have one blog in wordpress.com and not guilt. i have the right to blog. and fuck it if i have speak some wrong XD
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