NY State Demands Email Addresses/Usernames Of Sex Offenders
from the grandstanding-to-protect-the-children dept
Chris writes in to let us know about a new law passed in NY State that requires any sex offender to register any email addresses and screennames with the government. Any time a sex offender registers a new name or email address, he needs to alert the state within 10 days. While you can understand the grandstanding reasoning behind this ("protect the children!"), this really does seem fairly pointless. It's similar to a federal proposal, and all it really does is create a huge bureaucracy. Despite what the mainstream media has portrayed, the vast majority of sex offenders are not online stalking people. Most involve people known to the offender (all too often family members). In fact, recent research has shown that the whole "internet threat" thing is totally overblown. This isn't to absolve sex offenders of their crimes -- but to question the reasoning behind this sort of law. Those who are really out to stalk kids online will simply ignore this law -- and all NY State gets is a big bureaucratic mess tracking usernames and emails.
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I really don't see how they can enforce it. If you get caught doing anything illegal with or without a registered name, your still caught. Probably just another charge they can get you with. Pointless!
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stupid
Anything to "protect the children" RIGHT? That seems to be the golden ticket for any politician.
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as a sex offender
what constitues a username?
If this goes into effect here, I'd have to register pages upon pages of names and emails.
what about work emails? I don't own it... my company does, do I have to list that? I can see this hurting the company as people will obviously look at what companies employ sex offenders and give them negative rep - thus I'll have a harder time finding a job.
Does world of warcraft count? What about counter-strike or other games where I can change my name at will but still talk to people.
Myspace? facebook? Linkedin? Ebay? Amazon? wikipedia?
I also own about 50 websites, which total about 2,000 email addresses (as i use help@ webmaster@ support@ myname@, etc..)
This will provide no help to anybody - but it will bring much harassment to those who don't deserve it.
We did our time, we complied with probation - stop imposing more rules on us. If you think we're dangerous put us in jail.
Since you let us out, treat us like anybody else.
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Just published a book by a registered offender... the list is a sick, sick joke. Benefits the small time politician though.
https://www.createspace.com/4134568
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B2YXOWY
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Hellow
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typo nazi
3rd from last sentence, "Most involve known to the offender" should probably read "Most involve people known to the offender".
Whatever happened to teaching your kids to not talk to strangers? I make it a point to try not to vote for people that present these 'for the children' bills. I imagine the grandstanding must have a pretty high return for vote garnering, or they wouldn't all do it.
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Hopefully they have an electronic means to report this info. If I were you I'd make a web app to host on your server, and then another app that continually makes new usernames and automatically reports them for you, might as well keep em busy.
I saw an article not to long ago (unfortunately I can't find it now), about a guy that was supposed to report to the govt every time he moved. He decided to go above and beyond and mailed the agent a postcard every time he walked by one of the blue mailboxes on the side of the road..
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sounds like something I've heard before...
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Either way...
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A false sense of security is not security.
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Uh-huh. But it's better to actually BE safe than to just FEEL safe. Unfortunately, this bill doesn't do ANYTHING to make anyone safer whatsoever. But it will create substantial additional bureaucratic red-tape that will inconvenience people and cost tax-paying citizens money. More to the point, that's tax money that can't be used on something that actually DOES make people safer...or healthier...or whatever.
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Typical mix of politicians and the internet
We have created a society where someone who is stupid one night, drinks too much, and gets caught peeing in a parking lot will receive a penalty of being unable to get a real job for the rest of his life (unless he can self-employ), and being shunned and exiled by neighbors everywhere for the rest of his life. That seems a bit severe for something that used to carry a tiny fine and maybe a small community service order.
Then again, in a society where the average sentence for pot exceeds the average sentence for negligent homicide, I guess that fits right in with the "justice" system we have.
What ever happened to making the punishment fit the crime, instead of "declaring war" on concepts? It's not hard to see the connection between us being #1 in the world for percentage of our population in prison, and the fact that we have these insane laws imposing stupidly long sentences, or in the case of the registry, eternal sentences for trivial crimes.
This particular law is not only unfair for the vast majority of people affected by it, it's also technologically ridiculous.
I would imagine that just about every active net user has at least a dozen accounts, and that just covers the basics like email, a favorite forum or two, etc.
If you're a gamer, add dozens to that - 1/game, or in the case of a game where there's no central account to tie stuff to, 1/character/army/city/deck/whatever makes sense for the game. Web site owners have several addresses for their site, and of course, many people run dozens of small sites. Now think about every blog you made an account on to participate in one discussion thread, every site that made you sign up to get a file, and all the other web accounts that you used once for 5 minutes, then never logged into again. It'd not unreasonable to have 100 or more accounts.
Of course, that assumes you don't have a catchall, either because you run a website and need a *@yourdomain account to not lose stuff from people who can't figure out where to send it, or because you have a dedicated email domain and file stuff into folders based on what address it was sent (as well as probably using stricter spam filter settings on certain ones.) If you use a catchall, then your number of screenames is technically infinite, and all possible names exist, even if they've never been used and have no entry in a database. Are you supposed to run a bot script that infinitely submits names to that database? :p I'm sure they'd love having their servers hammered with a few thousand bots trying to comply with this law.
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"Hey Mr policeman heres an email address i'm gonna use to groom ANUTHA kiddie"
Just do away with the fukkers n be done with. Castrate the twats.
Have our politicians got nothing better to do than to create "work" for themselves. We have just passed this law in the UK. Do we really think its going to make a difference ?
USA, u got the death penatly, USE it.
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They won't.
"personally, I would like to kill all of them (at least child molesters)"
...and that's the real can of worms. Should child rape automatically carry higher penalties than adult rape? What constitutes molestation? - there have been countless reports where the term has been misused for everything from a parent spanking their kid to a teacher holding a kid to stop them from beating on another child - where's the line? What about those people who are technically guilty of child rape, even though they were only 14 at the time themselves? How do you separate those who represent a real danger from those who got caught out doing something minor (the aforementioned mooning offences, for example).
Sadly, I think I'm asking more pertinent and realistic questions here than anyone involved in this kind of legislation ever does - easier to make it look like you're doing something than actually doing something that will be effective.
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But, that is a personal opinion. And how to sort out the real "baddies" from the spanking your child cases... I don't know. But someone who rapes a child does not deserve to breath the same air as you an me. And when I say rape, I mean forcible sex. I am not talking about the guy who is 18 having consenual sex with his 17 year old high school girl friend. Again, how you sort it out, I am not sure... but, that is why I am not a judge.
But, I am the same person who would like to see people who fight pitbulls (or abuse animals in anyway) put to death. Basically, if you are abusive to children or animals, you are a POS in my book. So, my opinions could be taken as a bit extreme.
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Gotta make room for real criminals - like potheads, you know?
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This probably isn't for policing, but rather for after-the-fact piling-on by the prosecutor. Get access to the person's computer, see evidence of a yahoo email address that wasn't reported, add 5 years to the person's prison sentence.
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Preschool sexual abuse hysteria anyone??
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sexual job
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E-mail Addresses
but the former gov spitzer was a criminal also what is his punishment? nothing like a sex offender but he was a sex offender himself also a thief right? stay distracted we are sitting here on this computer but we are not walking the protest line so where does all of this really go? they will always get what they want because the children need the prtection from our great governments, they won't get money if they don't keep this stuff up so say goodbye to thye constition now you won't get your chance later.
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Oriya Classifieds
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