More Problems With Redlight Cameras: Denver Not Looking At Required Data
from the oops dept
With Arizona getting rid of its speed cameras, after realizing they did nothing to make the roads safer (and may, in fact, have done the opposite), now it's time to move on to red light cameras, which have a pretty troubling history themselves. The latest, as pointed out by Jeff Nolan, is that Denver has failed to enforce the contract it had concerning red light cameras. Specifically, part of the deal was that the contractor running the cameras would deliver data on whether or not the cameras were effective (including a potential refund of money if they were not). However, the contractor, Redflex Traffic Systems, apparently simply hasn't delivered the data. Actually, to be clear, they haven't delivered any data. It's not just that some data has been left out, but that none has been delivered.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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i really wonder how come they didn't deliver the data, its probably in the mail as we speak.
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They could have also had a late night shredding party...you know Easter is coming up, and nothing makes better confetti than evidence...lol
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Just tell us. Is it? or Isn't it?
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Did you ever notice
Whenever we Americans get busted for breaking the law we try to have the law changed or at the very least discredit the tools used to bust us. I could see the possibility of, for a short time, the chance of rear-end collisions. Isn't this just "natural selection" and not some error with the device.
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Now, it's easy just to argue that people shouldn't be tailgating to begin with -- this is true. But people tailgate, it's a fact, however undesirable.
I think Jonesy's idea to have a prolonged wait after a red before giving someone else a green would be a good thing. Not sure I can think of any other solutions that are safe and effective.
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i never thought these cameras were about safety. i figgered they were revenue generation units. yeah, maybe i am a *little* cynical...
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tl;dr version
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And it keeps coming...
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/6237816.html
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They just don't bother me
There was a big debate on the local newspaper comments about a bad at grade highway intersection, where the left turn from north bound, crossing south bound is a little blind. Most agree that it wouldn't be a problem if cars were actually doing the speed limit, but 10 or 15 miles over the limit really increases the danger. A speeding camera with warning signs on the south bound side at that location would probably help. But some folks just think the intersection should be closed and folks should just find another way.
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http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/01/30/20090130pimacams-ON.html
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I live in Denver...
The police or someone else likes to change the timing on the left turn lights at Belleview and Quebec, especially during the lunch hour. Some days, the yellow light is non-existant allowing at most 4 cars (2 in each lane), to turn left before turning red, out of 12+ cars which are overflowing and blocking thru traffic. Other days, all the cars (still overflowing) get through the light before the nazi camera starts strobe-lighting everyone, especially those who had entered the intersection during a yellow or green turned yellow signal.
All the time people have stopped short out of fear of a ticket from the camera system. Its really fun, having to slam on the brakes because all of a sudden, that green light is red, barely a flicker of yellow. I enjoy having to replace my brakes more often. Warped rotors are cool.
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Red light cameras and the like
This is like "pegging" on whether video games are good or bad; they can be either. We need to look at how they are used, or what the overall effect is, not gross out over the tool itself.
Pegging on an extreme position (short term) will win support from the public; long term it is a form of misinformation and will be treated as such.
Of course, Rush Limbaugh has proven that there is a large number of extremists who will always support extreme positions, no matter how ridiculous. At the same time, Rush Limbaugh is permanently in the extremist camp!
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