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US Falsely Claiming It 'Won' IP Fight With China

from the it-lost-badly dept

Tue, Jan 27th 2009 4:11pm — Mike Masnick

You may recall a few years ago that in the (still ongoing!) fight between Antigua and the US at the World Trade Organization (WTO), that the WTO came out with a ruling where the US declared immediate victory, though the details showed that actually the WTO had sided with Antigua. The US merely declared victory, and got its (wrong) story out to the press first.

It appears that's happening again.

Earlier this week, plenty of attention was paid to a WTO ruling concerning US disputes with China over a variety of intellectual property issues. The US Trade Representative quickly declared victory (pdf) and that's the story most of the folks in the press went with, claiming that this was a US victory where the WTO largely supported the US. Some even called it a major victory, while others were surprised that China seemingly was fine with the ruling.

Perhaps that's because if you actually read through the details, you realize, as Michael Geist points out, that the US actually lost very badly. There were three issues at stake -- and the only one the US "won" was the most minor of the three. On the two big issues, concerning China's border measures concerning counterfeit goods and its IP enforcement system within the country, the WTO sided strongly with China, and chastised the US for providing rather bogus "evidence" (often consisting of newspaper articles, rather than actual evidence) in support of its position. It seems like the only mainstream publication that actually bothered to read the report, rather than the USTR's "day is night" version of the events was Forbes, who notes that the USTR was being misleading in claiming victory. Of course, given how the US acted after it lost the Antigua case in the WTO, we can expect the US to appeal the ruling or... just ignore it and continue pretending the WTO actually ruled in its favor.

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Mogilny, 27 Jan 2009 @ 4:24pm

Ha
Getting rid of Chinese knock offs is like trying to get rid of the common cold. IMPOSSIBLE.
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- :Lobo Santo, 27 Jan 2009 @ 5:15pm
  
  Re: Ha
  Hey man, Chinese knock-offs are innovation and competition!
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Anonymous Coward, 27 Jan 2009 @ 5:10pm

Doesn't matter who won, this is simple proof that people will believe everything they read...
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- Doh-Boy, 27 Jan 2009 @ 5:54pm
  
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  "Doesn't matter who won, this is simple proof that people will believe everything they read..."
  
  I can't believe you said that.
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Mufi, 27 Jan 2009 @ 6:50pm

We can bitch and moan about fake stuff, knock offs of expensive items, but remember, we ALL use these items. What about the street vendor selling bootleg movies in NY? What about our all American Teen in Idaho uploading illegal MP3 on some P2P? Think about it.
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- Dont think so, 27 Jan 2009 @ 8:36pm
  
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  Mufi -> "fake stuff, knock offs of expensive items, but remember, we ALL use these items."
  
  Are you sure ?
  Lets see here ... fake stuff? - nope ... knock offs - nope
  Well, I guess you are wrong.
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  - US of A, 27 Jan 2009 @ 10:39pm
    
    let see, I can't afford "Made in America" I don't have the money.
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Steve, 27 Jan 2009 @ 6:55pm

While IP laws do need to be reformed. Something need to be done about the way China deals with Copywritten material. When someone can go up and buy a 2 disk pack of an artists best songs for $2, none of that money is going to people who make the material on the disk. Same thing goes when a box set of entire series, not seasons, for ~$30.
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- Mike (profile), 27 Jan 2009 @ 7:12pm
  
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  While IP laws do need to be reformed. Something need to be done about the way China deals with Copywritten material. When someone can go up and buy a 2 disk pack of an artists best songs for $2, none of that money is going to people who make the material on the disk. Same thing goes when a box set of entire series, not seasons, for ~$30.
  
  Actually, you should take a look closely at what's happening in the Chinese music market -- where the same thing applies. What they've done is rather than saying "something must be done" they've changed their business model... successfully.
  
  JY Park, a successful Korean music entrepreneur says that China is one of his most lucrative markets, but he doesn't worry about selling CDs or selling music there... he focuses on sponsorships, mobile subscriptions and live performances.
  
  So, instead of saying "something needs to be done" how about looking for ways to take advantage of the situation yourself?
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Lester, 27 Jan 2009 @ 8:12pm

US vs China & WTO
Very typical of the US propaganda machine!
Also it is so funny - Uncle Sam got caught with his pants down again!
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro, 28 Jan 2009 @ 12:29am

Worth Noting...
...that back in the 19th century, when "developed world" meant "Europe", it was places like the US making the cheap knockoffs.
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- Al Eridani, 28 Jan 2009 @ 2:33pm
  
  Re: Worth Noting...
  ... and ignoring the copyrights held by others.
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A Dan, 28 Jan 2009 @ 8:10am

Reminds me of something...
Good news! The chocolate ration is being increased to 20 grammes!
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