Dailydirt: GMO Food -- You Are What You Eat?

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Fri, Oct 21st 2011 5:00pm — Michael Ho

Genetically modified organisms (GMOs) are invading the food chain. Some folks say that the trend to grow more and more GMO food is almost a requirement to keep up with the world's demand for food. Others disagree, arguing that there are alternatives to GMOs that could meet demands without potentially endangering our fragile ecosystem. Here are just a few examples of the seemingly unstoppable development of GMOs for food.

If there was a baby formula product that came from a cow and was more similar to human breast milk, would mothers be wiling to try genetically modified cow milk? The Magic8ball says: "My sources say no." [url]
The Gates Foundation is working on GMO crops to increase food production in developing nations. But there are ethical questions about using the developing world as an experiment for GMO foods. [url]
The FDA has reviewed the first genetically modified animal for human consumption -- the AquAdvantage salmon. This fish grows bigger and faster than wild Atlantic salmon, and it's made sterile so its genes won't get loose in the environment. [url]
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A Dan (profile), 21 Oct 2011 @ 5:09pm

Formula
No, not all would use it, but many would. Those who are not afraid to use formula (of uncertain origin) would not likely have an issue with more-similar-to-human artificial breast milk.
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- abc gum, 22 Oct 2011 @ 7:15am
  
  Re: Formula
  You probably want to avoid any baby formula from china.
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Brad Hubbard (profile), 21 Oct 2011 @ 5:26pm

A little intellectual honesty, now
Let's be real here - we've been eating genetically modified foods (animals and plants) for the last 6000 years or so. Domestication, selective breeding and cross-breading of species has been a staple of human cultivation of food sources.

Except now we have people with advanced degrees, selectively modifying genes, instead of randomly cross-breeding species and hoping for the best.

Cross-breeding gave us killer bees. Genetic modification gave tomatoes that can be grown naturally, without harsh pesticide chemicals because they naturally repel insects.
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- Anonymous Coward, 21 Oct 2011 @ 5:47pm
  
  Re: A little intellectual honesty, now
  The problem isn't whether GMO are safe to eat, its about the fact that GMO's are a grreat way for a few companies to effectually gain (and they have for years now) an oligopoly on the entire world food chain via 'patents' and 'copyright' on nature. Monsato being a (in)famous example of what that entails.
  This is a little known secret they forget to tell you when they talk about GMOs.
  You can read more about what I'm talking about here:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_Food_Nation
  and
  http://motherjones.com/environment/2011/1 0/food-industry-monopoly-occupy-wall-street
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  - Jay (profile), 22 Oct 2011 @ 8:27am
    
    Re: Re: A little intellectual honesty, now
    You should also look at the Monsanto documentary here.
    
    Patents are used to help them make more money at the behest of various countries. It's amazing...
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  - cybernia (profile), 22 Oct 2011 @ 2:15pm
    
    Re: Re: A little intellectual honesty, now
    The reason such multinationals like Monsanto control the supply is due to the lengthy and expensive process of getting GMO seeds approved for use. They are the only ones who can afford to do it.
    
    There are universities and small businesses that have GMO just sitting on their shelves and they can't afford to get them approved.
    
    It's ironic, really. The anti-GMO folks who support these strict regulations are the ones complaining about how Monsanto controls the market.
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    - Anonymous Coward, 23 Oct 2011 @ 5:41pm
      
      Re: Re: Re: A little intellectual honesty, now
      bullshit, I'm not anti-GMO. I'm saying that gmo have been turned into one more corporate tax, and the worst kind too.
      
      Leave food out of greedy hands
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- Michael Ho (profile), 21 Oct 2011 @ 5:56pm
  
  Re: A little intellectual honesty, now
  I tend to agree with you that GMO foods aren't so different from other human farming techniques like cross-breeding, etc... but the chemical industry wasn't well regulated for a long time and the environment suffered a bit as we spewed all sorts of stuff into the atmosphere without caring/knowing what the long-term effects might be. Perhaps we should be a little more cautious with biological agents -- since once we produce them, they might reproduce on their own without any nice ways to stop them.
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  - Anonymous Coward, 21 Oct 2011 @ 6:09pm
    
    Re: Re: A little intellectual honesty, now
    Good luck with that, considering the FDA and the other branches of government who are supposed to regulate, employ former employees (or future ones) of the industry they are regulating. So, the real question is: Who regulates the regulators?
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    - Christopher (profile), 23 Oct 2011 @ 12:59am
      
      Re: Re: Re: A little intellectual honesty, now
      Good point with the "Employing future employees of the industry they are regulating!" Personally, I want a law that says if you are involved in regulation of an industry, after you LEAVE that regulatory position, you are banned from working in that industry for 20 years or having any stock in companies in that industry.
      
      Get some of the conflicts of interest out of it.
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      - anothermike, 24 Oct 2011 @ 9:49am
        
        Re: Re: Re: Re: A little intellectual honesty, now
        In the DoD, it's 5 years; it's from the Joint Ethics Regulations. No one from contract selection or acquisitions can go to work for a company they oversaw while in office. Maybe that needs to be enforced government-wide.
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Killercool (profile), 21 Oct 2011 @ 6:09pm

About the "made sterile"...
I'm having flashes of Jeff Goldblum as Ian Malcom: "Life always... finds a way..."
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- Dementia (profile), 21 Oct 2011 @ 6:15pm
  
  Re: About the "made sterile"...
  Glad to know I'm not the only one.....
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- Rekrul, 22 Oct 2011 @ 2:41am
  
  Re: About the "made sterile"...
  Damn, I was going to post that "John Hammond already tried that..." :)
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- Brendan (profile), 23 Oct 2011 @ 8:48pm
  
  Re: About the "made sterile"...
  I was going to ask: "Have those scientists never watched Jurassic Park?"
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Anonymous Coward, 21 Oct 2011 @ 6:26pm

The food we eat today is GMO, just GMO the old fashioned way splicing, cross breeding, selective breeding, hybridization, how much different is direct genetic manipulation?

I think we have much more to worry about with invasive species.
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- Suzanne Lainson (profile), 21 Oct 2011 @ 8:20pm
  
  Re:
  The food we eat today is GMO, just GMO the old fashioned way splicing, cross breeding, selective breeding, hybridization, how much different is direct genetic manipulation?
  
  The reason it is relevant to Techdirt is the combination of GMOs and patents. The engineered plants spread and then the big ag companies want people to pay for growing those crops even when they didn't plant them.
  
  It's this in a nutshell: "We're going to contaminate your crops and make you pay us because we did so."
  
  Now, if you eliminate patents on GMOs, you reduce some of the financial incentives in creating them and then we can talk about whether it is good science or not.
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nowunoit, 21 Oct 2011 @ 8:36pm

GMO'S = CANCER / REAL ORGANIC FOOD = NON-PATENTABLE
And u wonder why obesity rates and cancer rates are so high - the gmo's are out of control . As for the patent issue check out india's recent lawsuit against gmo manufacturers because gmo's are destroying that country (not 2 mention our's as well)
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- The Groove Tiger (profile), 21 Oct 2011 @ 9:04pm
  
  Re: GMO'S = CANCER / REAL ORGANIC FOOD = NON-PATENTABLE
  Agreed, I've seen guys in the States that already look like you could extract breast milk from.
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- abc gum, 22 Oct 2011 @ 7:21am
  
  Re: GMO'S = CANCER / REAL ORGANIC FOOD = NON-PATENTABLE
  I think the high rate of obesity has more to do with high fructose corn syrup than any GMO stuff.
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  - NowUNoIT, 22 Oct 2011 @ 9:20am
    
    Re: Re: GMO'S = CANCER / REAL ORGANIC FOOD = NON-PATENTABLE
    High Fructose Corn Syrup usually comes from GMO corn. And as we know - "Cancer cells love high fructose corn syrup"
    
    "Published in the journal Cancer Research, the findings also reveal that not all sugars are the same, a widely held belief in mainstream medicine. Tumor cells love both glucose sugar and fructose sugar, but fructose directly causes cancer cells to reproduce and spread in a way that glucose does not.
    
    So the study solidifies the fact that there is a major difference between high fructose corn syrup, a highly-refined sugar commonly used in processed American foods and beverages, and refined sugar cane. Both can lead to health problems, but high fructose corn syrup is worse in terms of cancer growth." - source: http://www.naturalnews.com/029374_cancer_high_fructose_corn_syrup.html#ixzz1Zn0t5s1J
    
    As for the India story and the lawsuit - here's the source:
    India vs. Monsanto: seeds of discord
    http://www.france24.com/en/20110921-india-monsanto-gmo-brinjal-bio-piracy-biopiracy-steal-s eeds-terminator-cotton-onion-melon-debt-suicide
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pringerX (profile), 22 Oct 2011 @ 2:58pm

A note on the issues around GMOs
GM crops are 100% safe to eat. Up to date, the natural pesticides produced by such plants are all stuff that is harmless to people, so unless they start inserting genes for botulin or whatnot, such plants and animals completely safe for consumption. Another common misconception is that meat engineered to produce extra hormones can somehow affect human development. This is rubbish, as hormones are delicate molecules that do not survive the digestive process (never mind the trace quantities they will be in, and the species differences). In fact, GM crops and livestock are often more nutritious because of their engineering.
What is of concern is how GMOs interact with our environment, a point Mike brought up earlier. A prime example are genetically modified salmon on open-water fish farms. This is downright irresponsible, as the GM fish can and do escape, and impact the natural salmon populations. The same can be said for pollen from GM plants- they might theoretically interbreed with native species or otherwise become invasive, or otherwise impact the local environment.
The final point is completely unrelated to biology, and that is the patent system. I do not claim to have any expert knowledge in this area, but it doesn't take a genius to see there are bad things happening that are probably detrimental to our farmers.
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Chris Brand, 24 Oct 2011 @ 10:15am

About "made sterile"
Of course they did this so that any escapees aren't a problem - I'm sure the fact that doing so would also mean that they didn't have to worry about farmers breeding their own rather than buying more from them never occurred to them...
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