Southeastern Conference Wants To 'Control Memories' Of Sporting Events; Limits Reporters & Fans
from the good-luck-with-that dept
Over the past few years, we've seen both MLB and especially the NFL try to limit how reporters can report on sporting events. This is highly questionable, in a variety of ways. Obviously, the NFL has no legal right to limit how anyone reports on event, but it was effectively holding "access" over the head of the reporters. That is, any reporter that failed to live up to these "rules" would no longer get a press pass and access to the locker room or players. This seems designed to piss off reporters, and limit the actual publicity that a sports league gets. In the past, I've suggested that newspapers who are threatened with such rules should simply ignore the press passes and start buying their reporters' tickets to report from the stands in protest.Now, a whole bunch of people have been sending in the news that the Southeastern Conference (SEC) -- a college sporting division -- is now taking this concept to a whole new level, limiting not just all kinds of reporting that can be done by reporters, but also on any fans attending the game (thanks to Jeff T for sending this in first). The press will not be allowed to show more than 3 minutes of highlights -- all of which must be taken down within 72 hours. This includes not just the sporting event itself, but any press conferences related to the event (nice way to make embarrassing press conferences "disappear").
The much bigger issue, however, may be the attempt to stop fans from taking photos of, or discussing, a sporting event they attend. The conference will put a license agreement on the back of every ticket noting these rules -- which are almost entirely unenforceable. The buyers of the tickets will not have "agreed" to the policy and would likely have a strong argument in court that the license is invalid. On top of that, how insane is it that a sports conference is trying to stop fans from telling or showing others about a game?
Someone in the article explains the (somewhat obvious) reasoning behind these policies. The SEC (Southeastern Conference) is basically "protecting" the rights to sell TV broadcasting rights for huge sums, and it's afraid that others reporting on the events takes away from the value of it. That's wrong for a variety of reasons -- including the simple idea that limiting how people can find out about your sporting events doesn't make them more engaged, it makes them less engaged. That's less value for any big broadcast deal.
The second reason given in the article? The SEC "wants the ability to have full control of the memories that these events can generate." That's nice that it wants that. But it goes against pretty much everything the law says is protectable.
But, once again, welcome to "ownership society." With so many people pushing so hard for stronger and stronger intellectual property rights, you get massive landgrabs such as this one, that go well beyond legal protection rights, in an attempt to "control memories." That's just what Jefferson and others intended when they put "promote the progress" in the Constitution, I'm sure...
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Shouldn't that be OR discussing a sporting event?
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Go HOKIES!
Ok, couldn't help myself.
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Controlling the past.
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Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Genghis Khan, Caligula, Nero, McCarthy, Robespierre, Napoleon, Cromwell - none of them went this far.....
I can't even think of a fictional villain that went this far.
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A way around
On the back of the notes that you tender write your own terms and conditions, together with the words - "acceptance of this note implies acceptance of these conditions"
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Why pay for abuse?
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What shall we call these memory-patrol people?
Who is going to ensure this? Will it will be patrolled by The "Mind Police"?
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Similar to the Premier League Twitter attack
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Re: Similar to the Premier League Twitter attack
the link doesn't work - could you repost?
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Tank McNamara Predicted This
"It'll be on the honor system." (long pause) "At first."
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Genetics?
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Memroy Control? Yummy!
They can start with some really hideous memories I have that I simply cannot get rid of.
Where do I sign up?
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As there is more and more pressure to make everything free, open, available, and without cost, the other side will push back harder and harder.
The "landgrab" you think you are seeing is nothing compared to the massive amounts of information, data, and product that the "FREE!" side has snarfed up in the last few years. Heck, they have all but swallowed the entire music business, made newspapers into buggy whip businesses, and so on.
So in many ways, the more stuff slips over the abyss, the more the ones on the cliff will try to solidfy their positions.
As a side note, sporting events are private events, and the terms and conditions of a ticket are more than likely enforcible. Will they? I don't think they will. But they are putting it out there to specifically block off the non-media media who will buy a seat and try to report like that.
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Interesting
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That you see the spread of information and data as a bad thing is quite telling. Product, maybe, but the spread of information is essential to progress.
"Heck, they have all but swallowed the entire music business, made newspapers into buggy whip businesses, and so on."
The music industry is fine. The physical recording business is the one in trouble, and has nothing to do with this sporting event. Nice try, though.
Newspapers are a buggy whip business because they, like buggy whips, are obsolete. The so-called "FREE!" movement, which does not even exist as you describe it, did not hurt newspapers; the simple advancement of technology and expansion of communication took care of that.
"As a side note, sporting events are private events, and the terms and conditions of a ticket are more than likely enforcible."
No, they won't be. The terms and conditions are on the ticket itself, meaning they aren't available until AFTER the non-refundable transaction. That makes it an unenforceable contract.
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So, one side demands to allow an infinite good to be infinitely available, and the other side wants to control my memories.
You're so right, that seems perfectly reasonable.
Heck, they have all but swallowed the entire music business, made newspapers into buggy whip businesses, and so on.
By "they" do you mean "technological advances in computing power and data transfer"? Or maybe "Increased efficency in ad-based marketing"?
It's not a group of people with a similar mindset that these people fear, it's being displaced from their seats of power due to advances in technology. They are fighting *the future*, and they are doomed to lose.
So in many ways, the more stuff slips over the abyss, the more the ones on the cliff will try to solidfy their positions.
The abyss being the public domain? The place our founders expected everything to end up for the good of *everyone* after a *finite* amount of time? That abyss?
As a side note, sporting events are private events, and the terms and conditions of a ticket are more than likely enforcible.
Yes, they can throw you out or bar you from entering, but they can't take away your rights. Especially since you buy the ticket before you read the back, they'd be throwing money away to stop me from taking a picture, because I'd demand a refund. That's a swell idea-- piss off paying fans. Oh, no, you're right, that's pretty much how things are done these days.
But they are putting it out there to specifically block off the non-media media who will buy a seat and try to report like that.
Non-media media? Seriously? Oh, the people they haven't given a press pass? A press pass is not authorization to report, it's much like a backstage pass, it simply allows the wearer to go into places not open to the general public. The media is the media with or without a backstage pass.
I really don't understand why you're all onboard for anything that is attempting to control your memories of an event. How much of a drone can you be not just to accept it, but to actually *defend* it?
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I think the SEC Should be Prepared
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It's very similar to NBC's purchase of the Sunday Night NFL highlights, which forced ESPN to moveback it's Sunday Night Countdown show because it could no longer show the extended highlight packs it used to
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I don't agree with that at all. Private means only a select list decided by the host of the event (whatever it is). Tickets to sporting events are available (for purchase) to ANYONE. That, my friend, is the definition of PUBLIC. I invite friends to my house = PRIVATE. I SELL tickets to a party at my house to anyone willing to spend $100K = PUBLIC.
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Hitler, Stalin, Lenin
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I know what they are trying to do...
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From: A Sea Of Blue Online Home of the Big Blue Nation: U of Kentucky Wildcats
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Blackhawks
Yes, stupidity and laziness are contagious diseases.
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besides, the license agreement on the ticket is not about owning intellectual property, but about contract rights.
if the attendance agreement printed in size 4 font on the back of your ticket says you're not allowed to do X, Y, and Z, odds are, most courts will still prohibit you from doing X, Y, and Z, so long as you agreed to those terms... even if it's far beyond what intellectual property protects. they'll look to whether the terms are unconscionable, violate consumer protection regulations, violate antitrust, or fail to form a valid contract, and if they do any of these, fans will be in the clear.
regardless, the damages are only going to be contract damages rather than IP damages... and you actually have to prove damages in contracts suits. there's no way that the SEC will be able to prove you damaged them by tweeting the score of the game.
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Not quite. There are certain rights you cannot sign away via contract. More importantly, there is no actual contract agreed to. As we've seen with court cases that throw out click-through agreements, an agreement like this that is never explicitly "agreed" to, is often totally unenforceable.
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The future of greedy sports leagues
After the Big Sports League Memory Officer wipes your memory with the red-light thingie, you can have your memory of the sporting event back for the low price of $29.95. And remember, you're not allowed to talk to anybody else about it unless they've paid the $29.95 also.
Then again, maybe I shouldn't post such sarcasm...because I don't want to give these greedy money-worshippers any ideas. It's not impossible that the day could come that sports leagues mandate somebody attending an event not talk about it to ANYONE unless they pay for a license to do so. After all, how else will sports owners afford stadiums that come with a $2 billion pricetag, and how else will a crybaby primadonna get his $45 million a year to run around a field?
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AGAIN
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Re: Memroy Control? Yummy!
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You have seen cases where click-thru agrrements are thrown out, mostly those that have pre-checked "yes" boxes that let you ignore the text (which is why microsoft requires both a click an a scroll on the text box). A ticket in your hand with terms on it is pretty much hard to ignore. Posting those terms again conspicuously at the entrances to the events would strenghten the case even further.
Just admit it - you hate to think that a private event (sporting event held in a private stadium) has the rights to do this sort of thing. You hate the implications that it has on your free world scheme.
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TANSTAAFL only works on the Moon.
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I wish they'd all stop reporting...
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such as free speech
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Steve
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let's see how serious they are...
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What else does the SEC want?
marketable content on what happens at the games, trying control the reporting of how a game is played is absurd. Whatever happened to freedom of speech?
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Unenforecable
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