NY Post Reporter Admits That It's Company Policy Not To Credit Blogs Or Other Sources
from the parasites? dept
Remember that Washington Post reporter last month who got all sorts of attention for claiming that a Gawker writer "ripped off" his story, despite linking to it multiple times? Many mainstream press folks sided with Shapira, in using this as an example of how blogs "parasite" newspapers. Yet, as the actual numbers show, the real relationship is quite symbiotic, with stories moving back and forth across alternative media and traditional media. And... it seems pretty clear that alternative media is a lot more likely to give credit and/or link to an original story. We've highlighted a few different cases of those traditional newspapers taking stories from bloggers without credit.Charles Vestal points us to another such case, but in this one, the reporter confessed and noted that it was company policy not to credit bloggers. In this case, it involved a local New York City blog that goes by the charming name NewYorkShitty.com. Last month, it reported on an illegal gym in the neighborhood. A little over a week later, the big News Corp/Rubert Murdoch-owned NY Post wrote an article covering just that story that seemed pretty obviously taken straight from the original.
So, the author of the blog post, one "Miss Heather" contacted one of the NY Post reporters, who quite openly admitted to using the blog post for his story, and then said it's against corporate policy to credit bloggers with scoops. Apparently, the same applies at the NY Daily News as well:
Post policy prevented me from crediting you in print. Allow me to do so now. You did a fantastic reporting job. All I had to do was follow your steps (and make a few extra phone calls).Now, this isn't a surprise, but how come that Washington Post reporter's claims of blogs being "parasites" got so much attention a few weeks ago, when it involved a clear case where the blog quite deliberately cited and linked to the original -- but a situation like this, where the NY Post blatantly got the story from a blog and admits it, doesn't get any attention at all?
I won't discuss at length the policy of not crediting blogs (or anyone else). I'll just briefly explain that as long as we can independently verify every bit of info, we don't credit.
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Turn it around...
They either fight that and expose themselves as hypocrits, or let it go fairly and not say anything, in which case the blogger wins. Simple.
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Re: Turn it around...
on my blog (name not shared here), I only credit sites I like. newspaper sites? Never credited. Techdirt, slashdot, arstechnica, wired? Always credited.
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Not sure about their standards for verification (i.e., if they have any) but they frequently gank stories from other newspapers and/or media. No surprise that they treat bloggers at least as badly.
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Nice...
EtG
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Re: Nice...
Funny saying, but it sort of fits in a lot of situations.
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He basically tells her that he's going to continue stealing and reprinting her work as his own. That guy's got balls!
Apparently it doesn't matter, though, because Miss Heather replies to him with "Thank you— I think" followed by a wink emoticon.
I interpret that as her being in awe of Mr. Ginsberg and basically implying that it's OK, simply because he signed up for her blog and replied in the comments, therefore acknowledging her existence.
Maybe it's just me, but I really think she comes across as a wide-eyed fan with her reply. It's too bad because she has every right to flip out on thiat parasite.
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Acceptable, but...
Many newspapers in this world have managed to assemble truly amazing teams to do what they do. I really hope that at least a few manage to figure things out and survive and help lead the way in "new journalism", or whatever you want to call it.
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F the truth if you don't know who wrote it, right, 'cause anonymity only has value if it generates money.
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License the bog...
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Not plagiarism
Of course, they also don’t credit it when it appears in another newspaper first, or someone gets a story idea sitting on the can, or because the editor forces them to write about it, or because, you know, it’s actually news.
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Hypocrisy
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News piracy
A correspondent for the AP had a habit of starting stories, then if he didn't like what he'd written, ripping the unfinished copy out of the typewriter and tossing it in the trash. Well, while he was at lunch the correspondent for a rival news service who shared the same room would come over and raid his trash can and pick up some hot leads for his own stories. Eventually the AP guy found out what was going on, started a phony story about some impropriety by a state legislator and planted it in his trash can. True to form, his rival retrieved the loaded story and put it on his wire without even bothering to check the facts. Turned out there wasn't a word of it true. To the best of my knowledge that was the last time he ever raided the AP's trash can.
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