Is It Really A Problem That 'Only' 31 Newspapers Sent Reporters To The World Series?
from the really? dept
Earlier this year, we had a discussion on the changing nature of sports beat reporting in the internet era, and one of the points we made is that there really is an awful lot of overlap and duplication in effort in some cases (such as the NY media). And yet, as pointed out by Jay Rosen old school baseball reporter Murray Chass is complaining that about half of the newspapers that have baseball beat writers did not sent a reporter to the World Series this year, calling it a "sign of a dying industry." Apparently there are 60 newspapers in America that have beat reporters who travel with the teams they cover, but only 31 of those papers sent reporters to the World Series.I'm really searching to see how this is a problem. First of all, those 29 other papers are all papers whose local teams are not in the World Series, meaning less interest. Second, those beat reporters are equally capable of watching the games on TV from the comfort of their own home and getting their quotes from the televised press conferences afterwards. It's not as if a player on the Yankees is going to break an important story to the Braves beat reporter for the Atlanta Journal Constitution. All they'd really be doing is adding to the media scrum around the players before and after each game, adding absolutely nothing of value. On top of that, the count of papers also leaves out the national media reporters -- such as those from ESPN and Sports Illustrated -- as well as the the reporters employed by MLB.com. I'd argue that the fact that about half of the papers decided not to send their own beat reporters is a sign of (finally) smarter newspaper management in not wasting money on a boondoggle for a baseball reporter.
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MLB Baseball...
You are apparently dead to many others as well.
You have disrespected the purity of the game and overwhelmed and cheapened it with your "every inch an ad" marketing circus.
Take your final breaths and slip quietly into the past.
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“World” Series?
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World Series
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"But you play baseball, the World Series. You've won every year, America's won every year in that. Well done America."
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I may be wrong...
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Baseball Schmaseball....
This game is for children, as are all sports. If you are still watching and caring who wins the WS past the age of 18, you probably still live in your parent's basement; either physically or emotionally.
Give your baseball cards to a 10-year-old and join the rest of us adults in the real world. The lessons you were supposed to learn from *playing* sports should have been learned by now. There is no longer any value in sitting in a sportsbar, swilling MGD and *watching* other grown men chase a ball around like my dog enjoys doing so much.
Get a car, get a job, get a girlfriend, get a clue, and start contributing something to society other than "BOOYA!"
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What lessons do you learn from any of the above?
Do you enjoy any form of entertainment?
You realize that's what sports are?
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Yes, it is *just* entertainment I suppose. And yes, there are all sorts of entertainment. And yes, everyone is free to enjoy whatever they enjoy...
But I was appealing to the inner voice is these people who place *so much* value on baseball, or , or whatever, that they stop paying attention to everything else going on in the world.
It's shameful when you can tell me who won last years championship, but can't name all the candidates for the last Presidential election. (I know that sounds crazy, but BELIEVE ME, there are many who fit that shoe)
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I'm sure your a successful CEO or ladder climber, married to a model, and have a penthouse apartent next to Bernard Madoff- seeing you have so much time to make stupid comments on things you don't care about--being in the real world and all.
Have you been hanging around the frat house too long, hanging around the "Booya!" crowd?
It's not our fault that your still dealing childhood memories of athletic failure like coming in last all the time running the track, getting picked last for dodge ball, or getting rejected by the girl you sat next to in freshman English.
Stop worrying about other people and take a look in the mirror.
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However, as the local market for news (print and TV) has been rocked by losses of advertisers and whatnot, it has become way more economical for them just to run the wire stories, perhaps getting a local reporter to do a standup for them for TV news, etc.
It should be noted that baseball in many cities is starting to look like a third rate attraction. Way too many games, way too long of an attention span for younger viewers, and a system that has pretty much 80% of the teams out of the championship race by June. The world series doesn't seem to be getting anywhere near the hype or coverage anymore, in fact I would not be able to tell you who is in the world series this year, nor would I care.
Baseball is past it's prime.
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Newpaper reports aren't useful
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but what _is_ a sign of a dying industry...
"First of all, those 29 other papers are all papers whose local teams are not in the World Series"
what is implied is that each town has only one newspaper. while certainly the norm these days it was not that long ago that most cities of reasonable size had a 'morning' and an 'evening' paper. if one goes back even further in time the larger cities likely had even more than 2 papers. sigh.
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Too many
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I also think baseball's popularity is dying, given the way the sport has been mismanaged from the top for so long. I can't imagine those papers not sending writers to the Super Bowl.
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I don't like milk, ergo, milk is FINISHED!
"I mean, outside of a few markets (Chicago and Boston come to mind), are there even that many people that care about baseball anymore?"
Well, considering baseball sets attendance and revenue records almost every year, I'm going to say yes. There's a little city called New York you may have heard of. About 7 million people went to major league baseball games there this year. That's about 43,000 a night, every night from April to October. Yeah, it's just dying on the vine, baseball.
"Way too many games, way too long of an attention span for younger viewers, and a system that has pretty much 80% of the teams out of the championship race by June."
There's been 162 games since 1961, eight more than there was for the half century before that. They added a layer of playoffs in 1969 and another in 1995, adding a max of 12 games to any one team's schedule, and then it's only two teams that can play that many. I missed the link to your figures on attention span, kids and baseball.
And the 80 percent figure for teams out of contention is true, except for the fact that it's false. Considering that 27 percent of the teams make the playoffs, it's kind of absurd to say 80 percent of them are out of it by June. As of Aug. 1 this season, just to pick a random date and year, I would say 18 of the 30 teams could reasonably say they were in contention for the playoffs. That's 40 percent out of the championship race, by August, not June. In contention for the playoffs is in contention for the championship. The playoffs are a crapshoot. The best team involved doesn't have much better odds to win than the worst.
On the subject of the piece: The thinking at newspapers has traditionally been that if you don't send a reporter to the World Series, the Super Bowl, the heavyweight title fight and so on, you are bush league. It's a sign of failure, of small-timeness. Advertisers notice it. Competitors, back when there were multiple papers in a town, would harp on it. It would endanger your ability to be taken seriously when you applied for a credential next time around. It was not a stupid thing to do. You have to keep in mind the tremendous margins newspapers operated with until very recently. I worked at newspapers in the late '80s through mid-'90s, I subscribed to this theory, and while I think it no longer applies, I don't think it was wrong then.
Newspapers have been a little slow to adjust to the new reality here, as they've been in other areas, of course. But it's not simply a matter of their being stupid. It's not a straight, simple, dollars-cents analysis -- it costs more than it makes back to send a reporter, so we shouldn't send one. There are benefits to sending a reporter to a big event even if it costs a paper money, and even if the reporter comes back with the same story as 59 other reporters, which you'd hope he wouldn't. In the scheme of things, newspapers being a few years behind the curve on this particular question isn't even in the top 100 stupid things they've done as an industry in the last 15 years.
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I snipe at baseball because baseball deserves it. The game used to be great. No more.
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