Yes, But Will Sergey Brin Take Peter Mandelson Out To Dinner At A Fancy Resort?
from the because-that's-how-this-works dept
A bunch of big name tech companies have come out against Peter Mandelson's Digital Economy Bill. They're most concerned with the clause that gives Mandelson (a guy who resigned elected position in disgrace twice) the ability to flat out change copyright laws on a whim with no real oversight. Amazingly, Mandelson had his staffers try to make the case for this clause:"The law must keep pace with technology, so that the Government can act if new ways of seriously infringing copyright develop in the future."And what's wrong with Parliament actually setting those laws? That part isn't explained. Honestly, I'm beginning to wonder if this particular clause is being used to draw away the fire from the "three strikes and we kick you off the internet" clause. With the big tech companies focused on this ridiculous power grab by the Business Secretary, not nearly as much attention is being paid to that "guilty based on accusations" clause. In the meantime, if these tech firms actually want to get anywhere, an open letter might not do the trick, but I hear that a nice dinner with Mandy at a fancy resort can do wonders.
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Filed Under: copyright, digital economy bill, peter mandelson, three strikes, uk
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"The arguments of lawyers and engineers..."
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Re: "The arguments of lawyers and engineers..."
Their customers.
Yeah, good job there, bankers.
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Thus, I had to run yet another search to get away from the blogosphere and generate results that actually discuss the proposed legislation in detail. This necessitated searching for the actual bill, and then reading it. I simply do not see how one can conduct an informed discussion without a factual foundation based upon more than mere second, third, fourth, etc. party hearsay.
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By the way, I am truly in awe at how quickly Mike has learned to loathe Peter Mandelson as much as the Great British public does.
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In Part 7 of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 (miscellaneous and
general) after section 302 insert—
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Maybe I'm wrong...
I thought there was only a power for Mandy to implement 'technical measures' at a later date if necessary.
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Labour now: We've taken the 3 strikes section out of the legislation so you can trust us and pass the bill.
Labour once bill has passed: Yes I know we said trust us about the 3 strikes section but, as you can clearly see, we put in provision to for the Secretary of State to make such changes as he perceives are necessary for the security/economy/rights holders/country/world. Therefore we are entirely within the law to make this change now and ban the internet.
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My point was just that we should be careful when discussing the 'three strikes clause' as it technically doesn't exist.
I don't want to give Labour the ability to dismiss our arguments based on 'there is no 3 strikes clause'.
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Mandelson's amendments to Copyright Law could make Britain a rouge State
Copyright Law is extremely important as it is used to secure the Intellectual Right over such things as New Drugs, New Music, inventive plans as designs, be it a dress a car a house a boat a plane whatever.
Copyright must be carried out swiftly as Copyright is the fastest system (currently legal) whereas Patent Protection can often take years other than as described here: http://carl-agpcuk.livejournal.com/
Which is my own ‘Copyright Protected’ formulated system called I.C.C.O., which could replace both, outdated slow Patent Protection and Copyright Laws with added security.
Signed Carl Barron Chairman of agpcuk
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Re: Mandelson's amendments to Copyright Law could make Britain a rouge State
Rogue man, rogue.
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Legal Whack-a-mole is played so slowly that many internet "entrepreneurs" laugh at the legal implications and operate businesses that fly in the face of the law, but use the delays in the system to profit grandly and to hide their ill gotten gains outside of their home country (ask brokep how this works, maybe in about 20 years he will be willing to talk about it).
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Just because the legislative process is slow doesn't mean it should be circumvented. It is slow to ensure that when it is passed it is correct... at least that is the theory. To be slightly flippant, its the equivalent of an individual imprisoning someone because they suspected that person had previously burgled them.
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Without piracy, the software, music, and movie industries would have already been decimated? Hm, probably overstating it, but interesting position!
(intentional misinterpretation for humorous and critical purposes, for the sarcasm challenged)
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Also, the only thing that "legal action, re-writing of laws, and various civil cases" have done to piracy is make it more popular by handing it mounds of free publicity.
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This is a good thing .....
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I fear no matter how many meals Brin buys Mandy, he still can't top what he got from Geffen while on a Yacht in the Mediterranean.
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Please don't be rude
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hi
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