California Court Says Online Bullying Is Not Protected Free Speech
from the first-amendment? dept
There have been plenty of efforts to try to curb "cyberbullying," often through laws that try to make it illegal to be a jerk. Unfortunately, the concept of cyberbullying is so vague that this creates tremendous problems and unintended consequences. And, on the whole, it seemed unlikely that any such law could withstand First Amendment scrutiny. However, it appears that the First Amendment isn't always the First Amendment we thought it was.A California appeals court has ruled that cyberbullying threats are not protected free speech. Now, you can understand why people might like this conceptually. No one likes a bully. But making it against the law to bully is incredibly risky, and almost certainly leads to a very different kind of bullying.
In this particular case, a kid set up a website about himself, and his fellow students posted comments mocking him. It was cruel, though you would think that the simple response would be to take down those comments. Instead, the family went to the police -- who said that the comments "did not meet the criteria for criminal prosecution and were protected speech." The family followed by suing six students and their parents for hate crimes, defamation and intentional infliction of emotional distress.
Now, there's no doubt at all that the comments were over the line and incredibly mean. However, it looks like there was a perfectly reasonable process outside of the courts to handle this. Apparently, the father of one kid who made some of the worst comments made his son apologize, grounded him and took away his internet access. It seems that wasn't enough. Those who were sued filed an anti-SLAPP motion under California's anti-SLAPP law (one of the strongest in the country), but the judges said that the text was not protected free speech and thus did not fall under the anti-SLAPP provisions. One of the kids, while admitting his own conduct was over the line, said he was just joking around, and trying to top others in responding to the website. The judges, clearly, did not find the joking to be funny. Indeed, it was not funny, but that doesn't mean you should lose your free speech rights.
One judge dissented and argued strongly that not only was this a mistake, but it would have serious First Amendment consequences:
I share with the majority the view that R.R.'s post, like many that preceded and followed it, was vulgar, nasty, offensive, and disgusting. But, as Justice Harlan wrote in Cohen v. California... although --the immediate consequence of [free speech rights] may often appear to be only verbal tumult, discord, and even offensive utterance[,] . . . [w]e cannot lose sight of the fact that, in what otherwise might seem a trifling and annoying instance of individual distasteful abuse of a privilege, these fundamental societal values [of freedom of speech] are truly implicated.It also notes that while the "threats" in questions did seem incredibly distasteful, in context with all the other comments, it seems obvious that they were not real threats:
In concluding that the post was not in connection with an issue of public interest, the majority fails to follow relevant precedent and ignores the substantial evidence that D.C. was a person in the public eye. The majority also creates a broad and groundless exception to the protections of the anti-SLAPP statute, holding that for purposes of the statute, jokes do not constitute communications in connection with issues of public interest.... That is not the law.
Reading the sequence of posts from beginning to end, no reasonable person would foresee that any of it would be taken as a serious threat of violence. No reasonable person would believe that (at least) four people were sincerely threatening to take D.C.'s life. Taken together, all of the posts amount to nothing but a lot of adolescent sex-obsessed hyperbolic derision, sarcasm, and repulsive foolishnessIn fact, the judge notes that the kid who set up the website didn't seem bothered by the comments, and was apparently more traumatized by his father filing this lawsuit. Maybe the kid should sue his father?
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What a fricken minute... there's a judge out there without a sense of humor?!
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The Law
It is now.
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Not an issue of free speech
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Also, this was not private property. This is the internet. The site obviously had some sort of comment system that made it a function of the site to post your thoughts. By your logic, you are trespassing on Mike's private property by posting your comment.
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Why the decision is troubling -- in both directions
Also, I worry that your account of the case somewhat understates the strength of the student's claim. The student was suing over very explicit threats posted on his site― "Hey [D.C.], I want to rip out your fucking heart and feed it to you. I heard your song while driving my kid to school and from that moment on I‘ve . . . wanted to kill you. If I ever see you I‘m . . . going to pound your head in with an ice pick. Fuck you, you dick-riding penis lover. I hope you burn in hell.", Another comment was “Faggot, I’m going to kill you.” The majority opinion contains an extended discussion of whether this is a true threat that is unprotected by the First Amendment.
The problem is, this analysis is supposed to take place in the "probability of success" analysis, not in the "scope of the SLAPP statute" analysis. It is a good example of bad facts making bad law.
The decision is here:
http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/documents/B207869.PDF
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Violent threats are not funny - they are violent threats. Calling them "jokes" is just trying to put a socially acceptable mask over the malicious intent that prompted the threats.
There are plenty of ways to be funny, and even to tease or bully, without explicitly threatening physical harm. This is dangerous harassment that deserves no legal protection. The commentors need counseling. Left unchecked, will we continue defending them when they walk in to school one day with a knife or gun, or actually do take physical action against D.C.?
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Except, of course, for the inconvenient fact that if they are "jokes" then they are not "violent threats" with "malicious intent".
Left unchecked, will we continue defending them when they walk in to school one day with a knife or gun, or actually do take physical action against D.C.?
Nice. Bring in a completely unrelated scenario for association to direct the discussion away from the situation at hand. If we continue to allow you to post bullshit on message boards unchecked, what's next? Do we have to allow you to rape a bunch of 10 year-olds?
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Mr. Popularity
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Straw men aside, when given the choice between saying "lol you suck" and "I'm going to pound your head in with an ice pick", do we not have an ethical responsibility to give guidance to the person who chooses the latter means of expression instead of condoning it?
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Threats should not be protected speech
BTW, Mike, you should have noted the comment about the ice pick, and how the kid who said it claimed he is Buddhist. I bet the judges couldn't even keep a straight face.
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Perhaps we have an ethical responsibility to train people in clearly distinguishing when they are being hyperbolous versus when they are making a serious threat.
It's the reason toy guns are painted bright colors -- so that cops won't kill kids who are just playing.
"You suck" is a hyperbole. "I'm going to pound your head in with an ice pick" is a threat.
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This didn't have to go to court
So now because we have new forms of communication eveything has to be a lawsuit and everything is a very real threat that will be acted on?
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I am tired of people spewing nasty, hateful messages online w/o any sort of responsibility.
It's pathetic and attaching a name to the comments would see a massive decrease in online hate speech
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Have a nice day.
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This is the reason I do not like hate crime legislation
Whether the boy is gay or not, whether the comment was meant as a joke or not, the comments are, as designated by the state of California a “hate crime”. Where the comments are made does not matter. According to the law, they have to be prosecuted.
Stop whining about the onlinedness of the comments. If you do not like the law change it. Good luck with that in california.
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shame on you
Now, there's no doubt at all that the comments were over the line and incredibly mean. However, it looks like there was a perfectly reasonable process outside of the courts to handle this. Apparently, the father of one kid who made some of the worst comments made his son apologize, grounded him and took away his internet access."
Really mike? Is making threats to STAB someone in the head a small enough threat to take away his internet access??? Are you kidding me????? You say the comments were "incredibly mean", but they were more than that, they were threats to bodily injury. Grave bodily injury. You should be ashamed of yourself and I promise you, I have sent this article on to as many people as I can, so you can bet you've LOST followers.
Shame shame.. your mama outta spank your butt for being so ignorant.
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If someone expressed a desire to stab my son in the head with an icepick, at the very least I'd like that person to spend a night in jail. It's a criminal act, and when it isn't treated as such, it forces me to seek alternative recourse. Suing is the only legal avenue left to me.
Saying "you suck" is different than "when we meet I will stab your head".
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Like many early tech blogs, we give anyone who doesn't give a name the tag "anonymous coward." It's a joke.
I bet they'll remove this and my preceding post which while it's their right to do so only shows how closed-minded and ignorant they are calling someone a "coward" when they don't even know me.
Chill out. We don't remove posts, unless they're spam.
I will stop reading Tech dirt as of now and it's obviously simply dirt.
Obviously.
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When he has a flame that says someone is going to stab him in the head, he changes his phone number, and get extra locks on the doors, but when it happens to someone else, it is just fodder to get free advertising with his petty, pitty comments. In the unlikely, yet realistic event when threats like this are carried through to fruition by unstable people, people that have Mike's narrow-minded and sad point of view claim that "he didin'tmean it like that" and see how fast they can backpedal. Perhaps you are the true coward, but most certainly a tool. If you have children, please post their info so we can threaten them, since it really isint a big deal to you
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comment on bullying
do anything wrong.like if the kid was wearing clothes that
the other kid dosn't have it's not right to make fun.I'm
mad and fed up with the scholl system not doing anything
about.I think it should be talked about more further.I
think that all school systems should talk about this at pta
meetings.Expelling the kids who bully is not going to do anything,bullying is just going to continue.lives have been lost
and nothing is being done. What the hell is wrong with the
school that the 15 year old boy killed him self because of kids bullying him.Something could have prevented here.Like talking to him and going further from the begining.to the point where when the first started.Why didn't the school
adminerster's office say anything about.you wanna know why it's because they got something to hide. And they think it's okay and it's not, kids think that they can do what ever they want and get away with it. i'm gonna make bill.and that bill is no bullying in school or you will go to jail.yeah i said it jail.Because it can drive aperson to commit suicide
like it has even at the same school how screwed up is that school should be looked ito much further.I'm sick to my stomach whaen i hear that a kid killed there selfs because some one bullied them.I'M GONNA HAVE THIS STOPPED IF YOU DON'T STOP IT YOU FUCKING KIDS I'LL HAVE IT STOPPED!!!!TEENS THINK THERE KNOW IT ALLS THEY SAY THING TO MAKE THEM SELFS FEEL BETTER.TEENS THINK THAT THEY CAN HAVE SEX DO DRUGS AND HAVE BABY'S THERE KIDS NOT ADULTS ACT YOUR AGE NOT YOUR SHOE SIZE.Ther is no such thing as being popular i don't give a fuck what you say it's all in your head.bullying is kiddy shit grow the fuck up actually they think there grownups.this is going to stop right now.i think the teachers and principals need to go to jail for the students how killed them selfs because of bullys.How come know one is doing anything about what worng with the world. i think it's the parents fault to. Of course they don't do anything.
every one thinks it's okay it's not.Am i the only person that thinks it's not okay?
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Cyberbullying
The kids were wrong to flame, but this may have been an overreaction to the pendulum on bullying swing this far
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Bullying
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freedom of speech
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