TSA Admits That Body Scan Machines Can Record Images
from the but-that-won't-be-used.-really.-trust-us. dept
With the new body scanning machines showing up at more and more airports, there still are lots of concerns over privacy and what might happen to the images of the scans. The TSA insists that the images are quickly discarded, but Michael Scott points us to the news that the TSA has now admitted that the devices can store and record images, but insists that's only done for "testing, training, and evaluation purposes." However, the TSA also admitted that there's nothing preventing this "test mode" from being turned on while in regular use. How long until there's some sort of "terrorist" incident that leads to a new requirement that all scans be recorded?Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Freedom
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Sure. Maybe take the helmet off....
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Old news?
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This is the important line ... TSA has been trying to deny that the body-scanning equipment has the capability to print/store/distribute Images except during "Testing at a secure facility"
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This could only happen
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At worst, violence leads to 1-2 copycat crimes. This is considered virtually negligible in a society with 300 million people. Unstable people would probably do something different anyway.
Loose sexuality leads to more people growing up without father figures in their lives. Since approximately 80% of prisoners grew up with no father figure in their life, this is something to be reduced. Movies repeatedly showing loose sexuality will cause looser sexual ideals in society, causing a rise in the type of environment that spawns people who commit crime.
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In fact, from what I've seen, countries with more sexually liberal societies tend to be less violent. So you can see why the US would be against *that*.
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Wow! Where is this conversation going?
Are you people losing it?
I could careless about violence or sex in movies. But this is a situation where you are subjected to scans where you can almost be view naked.
There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.
John Adams (1735-1826)
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences of too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.
Thomas Jefferson (1791)
History teaches us that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure.
Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall (1989)
Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790)
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TERRRRRISTS!!!!
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~J Edgar Hoover
;-)
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Lying Again?
I'm shocked, I tell you! Shocked!
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sexually liberal
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it's FUCKING POINTLESS.
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Great comments
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I'd prefer that I be able to fly and have my body remain private. That is not an unreasonable request.
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Naked body Scanners
In Britain if you are asked to go through one of the scanners you must comply. If you refuse you will be barred from flying and your name will be kept on a list. Guilty before you fly. You are not given the opportunity to have a pat down.
The terrorists have scarred the not properly elected Prime Minister (what a joke) in to forcing civilised human beings in to getting there naked bodies photo graphed and looked at in detail by anyone who is TRAINED. Have these perverts been vetted or are they on the sex offenders list. I bet all the Trained individuals are men.
A Doctor is the only other man i would willingly let look at my wife’s naked body for medical reasons not some floor cleaner who applied for a job as pervert. Looking for bombs or staring at naked woman all day. What a job to have. Not having to pay for porn but also getting paid to look at it. I spoke to a friend at an airport and he told me that the images are kept for an hour before they are deleted. Just encase something happens on the plane they can then go back and have another look at the porn. So all this “the images aren’t stored in anyway and are deleted straight away” is complete rubbish!
In order for myself and family to have a nice holiday in the sun I am expected to let my wife expose herself to a complete stranger.
I didn’t marry a slag. Porn stars have a choice to get photo graphed, our wife’s and children don’t. Until these Skandalis machines are destroyed I am stuck in this country for a holiday. To drive to a hot country far away with a young family is unfair on them.
The dignity of our loved ones has been thrown away just because of some mud hut dwellers go boo !!!
Do you think Winston Churchill would have aloud his loved ones to expose there genitals to strangers just so they could go on holiday.
Get some Genitals Brown. Don’t jump on the first band wagon that they say will stop terrorists. This last attack would still of happened even if he had gone through a scanner.
I served in the Army for my family and friends protection. Now my Supposed Leader is making them strip in front of anyone deemed TRAINED.
Disgusting behaviour from a supposed leader of men.
Bend over Britain all is lost.
PS.funny how the shares in these machines are on the up. Some one is making a lot of money out this.
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Given a choice.
I know which line I’m in.
If you don’t want to submit to the requirements for flying, don’t fly. The scanners offer more perceived security, and that is what everyone wants. And if anyone wants to post a picture of my junk on the ‘net, let them. As long as I can feel good about getting on a flight without worrying about the guy near the front with the funny accent.
Look, there is no such thing as prevention, TSA can only hope for deterrents. It’s like a cheap car alarm, it won’t stop your car from getting stolen if someone is determined to steel it. But it may make the casual thief think twice and move on to the next flight…errr…car.
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If you don't want to submit to the requirements for flying, don't fly.
Yes, instead take a train to Hawaii. I mean, hey, you didn't want a stranger to see you naked, you're probably a terrorist anyway.
As long as I can feel good about getting on a flight without worrying about the guy near the front with the funny accent.
Because people without accents are safer? Really? So, as long as someone forces you to do something in the name of 'perceived security', you're all good? You see where the trend is going, don't you? Man shoots through cockpit door = reinforced door; man hides bomb in shoe = remove your shoes; man hides bomb in underwear = they look at you naked; man hides bomb... in a 6 year old girl = ????
Yeah, you'd be okay with body cavity searches of children, then? Hey, in the name of 'perceived security', right, so it's all good?
Look, there is no such thing as prevention, TSA can only hope for deterrents
Notice the trend, though. Each new form of 'security' didn't make anything safer, because there is something after it. So, if looking at my naked body isn't actually going to *do* anything, I'll pass, thanks.
It's like a cheap car alarm, it won't stop your car from getting stolen if someone is determined to steel it.(sic)
Think back to the last time you heard a car alarm. Did you rush over to the potential crime scene, or call 911? Did you even bother to *look* at the car? No, you wished someone would turn off that damn noise.
So many people have died for the freedoms you are casually giving away to pretend to feel safe. It's so sad.
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Me too. Flight B.
"If you don’t want to submit to the requirements for flying, don’t fly."
That's the choice I made. Until I can fly without pointless measures that treat me like a criminal, I won't fly. Which is too bad, because I love to fly and used to do it frequently.
"The scanners offer more perceived security, and that is what everyone wants."
Not everyone wants that. I don't. Perceived security is worthless. I don't even want more actual security, as it is not even close to being worth the cost. The risk of terrorist acts occurring on any given plane are well below my threshold of concern.
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Naked Body Scanners done by any jo blog.
The fact I love my wife and don't wont any old bloke taking pictures of my wife's naked body with her leg apart or that Gordon Brown is forcing people to be violated in the name of terrorism?
The images you are being aloud to see aren’t as clear as they can be as a reporter here in England tried to do a documentary on the scanners. He went through a miller meter wave scanner and then when he came out the other end he asked to see the image that was generated. He was refused to see it.
Why!
He wasn’t aloud to see the generated image as it would have caused everyone who was going to fly to change there minds. No self respecting person would willingly strip before a strange spread there legs and raise there hands in the (I surrender) pose and have a picture taken.
My wife would refuse that request from a fully trained Doctor let alone from a person who was going through your dirty under ware yesterday.
What’s the difference between some one going through the scanners and a porn star?
Nothing!
Except the porn star gets paid. Who’s the idiot?
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But we take naked pics of the children
it is all starting to make sense.
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Why aren't the Americans asking this question as well as other obvious one's?
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yes they will be stored
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From a Regulatory Perspective
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Naked pictures at airports
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