It's Baaaaaack: Canadian DMCA Bill Expected Next Month
from the the-copyright-change-that-never-dies dept
You knew it had to happen sooner or later. The US (mainly via entertainment industry proxies) has been pushing Canada to introduce even more draconian copyright law for years -- despite the fact that, in many ways, Canada's copyright law is already much more draconian than US law (for example: no real fair use provisions). What the entertainment industry and (thanks to entertainment industry lobbying) the US government really want is for Canada to introduce its own version of the DMCA, with things like anti-circumvention clauses. There is no reason for this whatsoever. The claims that Canada is not in agreement with "international obligations" is simply false. It's a smokescreen used by lobbyists.Back in 2007, under such pressure, Canada got ready to introduce its own version of the DMCA... though calling it "its own" was a misnomer, since it was basically written by US entertainment industry interests, and was... well... let's just say a "copy" of the US's law. Thankfully, after lots of protests from businesses and the public, the bill, C-61, eventually was shelved.
However, the pressure kept mounting and for a little while, it looked like Canadian politicians might not give in to entertainment industry pressure. The two politicians most involved in drafting new copyright laws, Heritage Minister James Moore and Industry Minister Tony Clement, both seemed to understand that a different, more forward-looking approach made sense. Following that, there were the very open public consultations on copyright in Canada, that allowed many, many Canadian citizens to express their concerns over how US-style copyright law would be immensely troubling (such submissions significantly dwarfed the calls for stronger copyright laws). Yet, as we noted just a few weeks ago, there appeared to be a well-coordinated media campaign that just so happened to pop up as the new bill was being finalized, that pushed for much stronger, US-style, draconian copyright laws.
So it should come as no surprise that reports are coming out that, indeed, despite all of the public concerns, Canada has decided, once again, to introduce a Canadian DMCA, similar to the US one in all its draconian provisions. Despite his earlier statements, apparently Heritage Minister Moore was on the side pushing for such a law, while Industry Minister Clement pushed for a more forward-looking law. Moore apparently won.
Once again, hopefully, public outcry from content creators, consumers, organizations and businesses will stop Canada from making the same mistake that the US has made, and which has resulted in repeated misuse to stifle creative expression and free speech, while holding back important innovation.
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actra + bill c-61 -2010 versions
monty pythlon, parrot scit.
Dear Ministers Moore and Clement
in summary.i do NOT agree with the erosion of property rights in your legislative efforts.
we are NOT a nation of renters, however profitable that be.
The changes in property, privacy, freedom of speech and freedom of information put the ham-handed elgislation to shame.
Shame, gentlemen, SHAME!
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I wonder what these two men were promised if the bill went through.
I wonder if it is put through if their next jobs will cushy ones provided by the entertainment industry.
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They will never learn....
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Supporters
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Back to the drawing board
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Don't count on it being shot down. The NDP don't have enough seats to matter. The Bloc are actually in favour of stronger copyright laws to protect their precious home-grown francophone music/movie industry in Quebec. The Liberals actually put forward a similar bill in Paul Martin's term in office that only failed to pass due to an election being called while it was still on the docket. If enough people are angry about it, the Liberal might choose to oppose it, but the majority of Canadian voters have no clue that this bill even exists or how it might affect them (sadly, the Canadians active in the blogosphere are not representative of the population as a whole).
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No matter how messed up the system can be at times, at least you can count on the opposition to be consistently opposed to anything and everything.
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I know what you're saying, but if the Canadian politicians are anything like the US ones, principle has little to do with it. In fact, it's the exact opposite of voting on something based on principle. It's voting based on a knee jerk response. If Proposal.Author.Party != Me.Party then Vote = No.
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So What?
Bottom Line: We can expect no freedom from any of our governments because they are controlled by corporations. Revolution is not the answer. The new masters would be worse than the old ones. Only sanctions against the corporations you hate will eventually have any meaning. Stop buying their products and services and they will eventually go away. If the corporation you dislike has a monopoly in your area then complain to your representatives and demand a breakup. There's nothing worse to a corporation than a forced breakup. Email all representatives about any monopoly you find.
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Of course, actually piracy is already illegal here and all the bill does is make the activities of legitimate paying users and those who should be protected by fair dealing illegal as well, It doesn't do much to the laws regarding what everyone considers "piracy" at all, but you have to actually do your own research to find that out.. Who does that?
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Writing Letters?
It's time to organize another general strike; these racketeers in Ottawa only recognize threats to their wallets.
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...and right on cue...
http://twitter.com/mpjamesmoore/status/13491407715
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zombie law
Or otherwise I'd like to see a three strikes law for legislation.
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The Conservative government knows what the people want already, and they are choosing to ignore us.
If they pass this law, I want my money from the blank media levy back.
When the Conservatives are finished ruining Canada, which country should I move to? Any suggestions?
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As a Canadian
I only have one word to say...
F###########################$%!
This time, I am sending a registered "paper" mail and going to CC it to everyone. Oh yeah, and Mr. Moore, you just lost one more vote.
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what sucks is that almost all sue happy jerks ignore that when they start the dogs of war.
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Two points
2. C-61 failed because an election was called, not because of public protest. I wish I could say that was the case, but it wasn't.
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2. Thats fine, I would be happy if we could get rid of this one by forcing an election.
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@7
Says you
I thinks i'd make a great emperor of canada
LOL
That aside the reason people are now talking revolution
isn't cause they want violence its cause they are beginning to see it will not get better it will and DOES keep getting worse.
WHEN actors and musicians start getting attacked more YOU WILL KNOW its coming.
ALL the so called new "masters" have to do mister conspiracy, is make it illegal to accept any lobbying money
PERIOD. ENDS all the need or want of a corporation to buy off the bribe the or whatever the politicians now dont it.
ALL also needs done with all this tech is to truly begin to look at proportional representation. WHY?
BANG both liberals and conservatives both would be half the size they are now. YOU'D have greens in office as well as whatever that 3.3 represents.
IT truly makes coalitions the norm and that also increases govt transparency especially when a multi party coalition forms the cabinet and govt.
ITS ironic that everywhere i go as united hackers association leader people like my ideas and say i should run for office. What keeps me form doing it. Lack a money for one, but that aside i just don't think i can hang out long without totally losing it with these types a people. Seriously would you like these politicians as friends or have to work with them every day.
OH and the campaign to stop Harper has a new phrase thanks to that blundering moron mp who told women to basically shut the fuck up.
FUCK YOU HARPER, WE WON'T SHUT UP ABOUT COPYEVIL
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=274584533402
NO, STEPHEN HARPER, WE WON'T SHUT THE F#CK UP.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=114403908595490
BTW liberals now have a plan for everyone in canada to have free 1.5 megabit internet...good start. NOW jump on board the anti harper anti-copyright movement and push them out of office. GREEN party has a better platform then the pirate party about copyright.
I have 1000 member hackers in canada , and over 2000 waiting to get in and thousands more associates. NOW think about all the other countries and say 300-500 per country with the smallest countries i may have as little as a dozen and even a member group in tunisia of all places. AND hte greek story is important as its all about how th money that they owe was because of mismanagement by the govt NOT by non paying taxes. THATS THE REAL STORY, ya know thatyour rupert murdoch won't tell
1) ask and post this statment
"what does 50 year copyright do for you citizen"
THis one really they hate cause then people go in there heads so why should we allow 80 years as proposed?
2) Does filtering and 3 strikes rules stop child pron?
OR does it just shove it under arug in the if i can't see it therefore dont exist. Criminals will find ways around it and it just makes inconveniences of us all.
THE RUMOR that geist is now trying to deny is that this removes fair use, WELL It removes the fair use most of us enjoy..downloading and placing on levied media. and if you look at ACTA for a howto of what it has to do....well any more then 2 of a type of a thing and your at risk ..END A STORY.
3) ACTA and BILL c61 ( previous attempt) both make the commercial fines now for non commercial as well, this means 2.7 years prison time per item when i cannot afford ot pay it. I have enough for a life sentence and with recent laws i wont get parole ever. so 40 years times avg 100,000 $ per inmate = 4 million YOU TAX PAYERS will pay for a guy who had no money ot buy it in first place and is disabled and already suffers. Let us say they get 100 people a year only.
THATS A neat 400 million a year cost that goes like this
400
800
1.2billion
1.6billion
2 billion
HAd enough mister taxpayer?
2.4 billion ( 600 inmates in jail for 40 music tunes )
HOW ABOUT A campaign of:
THINK OF THE DISABLED
NOW think on grand scale if everyone after this law was made LAW like 20000 of us went down to ottawa and turned ourselves in they'd ahve to arrest us and thats a whoping
tax payer whack of 2 billion
AT a time when we just are about to drop 48 billion in the whole........
this is also tantamount to:
Section 12 Charter Violation
CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT
12. Everyone has the right not to be subjected to any cruel and unusual treatment or punishment.
If longer than necessary, to a degree that can be considered "grossly disproportionate," certain prison sentences can be considered cruel and unusual and therefore unconstitutional under section 12.
LOOK at the example of a cocaine dealer( ya know like Jaffer is )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_Twelve_of_the_Canadian_Charter_of_Rights_and_Freedoms
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Adlib
NOW all one party has to really do is
A) side with w omens rights
B) be against this copyright bill ( ANGUS blew it with his hanging out with musicians for a month after he formed the acta group then suddenly came out with this levy for lazy musicians )
THIS is why the poll shows a huge drop a NDP voters as the undecided became a larger number .....
C) get us out of afgnaistant totally. WE cant afford it....sorry but thats true. WE need to get this debt under serious control.
D) scrp the HST for food and internet and kids cloths and kids items.
E) give natives a half of the tax off on there cigarettes USE that cash directly to hospitals that are in dire need.
F) turn internet use into a right so NO 3 strikes law can ever affect you, and make mandatory 1.5 megabit free.
Creating a national broadband initiative is healthy it creates infrastructure jobs that actually mean something.
( i see little value in repairing a sidewalk that didn't need it as an example i saw near me )
G) in creating IT jobs for this new net you also mandate tech support will be for Canadian citizens thus again creating new wealth and jobs.
H)ISPS will be enshrined from liability on there networks and the govts as well. the CRIA will be disbanded and booted out of canada ( 6 billion dollar lawsuit they have no intention ever of paying- guess whose collecting levy money )
I) make it a treasonable offense for any politician or govt official to take any money or gifts form anyone or entity with ties to a foreign land. YOU realize what treason gets you in canada?
J) take back the 75 million that the Quebec provincial leader gave to Warner brothers and tell him that until he punishes his son like he has people in the USA , they can't do business here.( SON CAUGHT USING BIT TORRENT GETS SLAP ON WRIST)
K) if your an artist and whine even once we'll deport you to a country where you should feel at home.
THE United States Of America. ( remember that cause our nations laws and rules are less strict we actually have a very vibrant film and tv industry. They actors and musicians don't realize it but hollywood comes to country gets things rollng gets its laws then move son to another target.
Seen any good tv from Australia after farscape?
L) require all Americans that get internet in canada have a broadcast dpi flag present on there internet so as to identify them as NON citizens when they post or communicate inside canada. YOU might say wtf , but think of 750,000 Americans posting on your boards and screwing results across the land. THIS we would put a foot down on.
M) all other needs of DPI are by warrant ONLY.
think of it people and instead a writing a gay letter get out of your damn house with a tshirt on that says
I WILL NOT SHUT THE FUCK UP HARPER
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Of course, some have argued that ratification is a choice and not a requirement. According to the WIPO:
The effect of signature is not, of course, to bind the signatory State but simply represents an acknowledgment of its intention to enact a law based on the Convention and, in due course, to ratify the Convention. It is only the ratification of the Convention by an existing member State which has signed the Convention, or accession to the Convention by a new member State, which creates an international legal obligation.
That being said, I appeal to all Canadians to take a look at your neighbor’s mistakes. Learn from the mistakes of others before entering a pool of sharks.
Do you really want to see similar situations?
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Freedom
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Also, fellow Canadians, I suggest you take a look at Bill C-428. Google it if you have to.
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