WHO Exaggerated H1N1 Flu Problems, After Consulting With Consultants Working For Pharmaceutical Firms
from the regulatory-capture dept
The deeper you look at the pharmaceutical industry, the more and more ridiculous it seems. Pharma has abused patent laws greatly for many years (even though many of the roots of the industry come from areas that refused to allow patents on drugs... until some companies got too big and wanted to limit competition). The latest news is that the World Health Organization apparently has been dinged for exaggerating the H1N1 flu threat... in part because they relied on pharmaceutical industry insiders for information. Guess what they suggested? Stockpiling a limited supply of super expensive pharmaceuticals, which were so super expensive thanks to patents limiting competition. Part of the issue is that the goals of the pharma industry are not at all aligned with basic public policy on health care. The incentive structure is entirely screwed up. Pharma has no interest in making sure people are healthy, but because sometimes its drugs happen to do that, as a side effect of making money for the industry, officials falsely believe that pharma execs should have some sort of say in public health policy.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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I said so from the very beginning. I said so during the bird flu "attack" (H1N5) and I said it during H1N1. They used scare tactics by blowing up single instances where the flu resulted in deaths into "pandemic proportions", in order to boost the sales of a certain vaccine. It was so transparent, but the news cycle was so eager for news at that point, that they refused to think critically.
WHO is a corrupt organisation, pandering to their shareholders (the pharmaceutical companies).
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Rummi's Hands All Over This One, Too...
And it's not like this is new. He did this back in the 70's. Yes, H1N1 was around in the 70's, too. In 1976, after a military recruit died from what was believed to be swine flu, raising concerns of a comeback for the virus which was famously a pandemic in 1918, Rumsfeld made it enough of a political issue that Gerald Ford stated that evey man, woman, and child would be vaccinated then against Swine Flu. Huge amounts of the vaccine were produced.
The problems began with tainted vaccines that were responsible for killing 52 people. What made it worse? Uh, NOBODY FUCKING GOT SWINE FLU! NO ONE!
Am I the only one wondering why this story never got retold by major mediathis go around?
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I love it and will defend it to the death.
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I supposed it's all still a vast right-wing conspiracy?
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"National sovereignty is no longer a viable concept," he predicted "movement toward a larger community by the developing nations . . . through a variety of indirect ties and already developing limitations on national sovereignty." He foresaw this larger community being funded by "a global taxation system."
How do you achieve one world government? By fostering closer ties between nations through multi-national crises. War is what people point to much of the time, but I can't think of a better excuse to create world oversight than global health crises....
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Does it?
Do you have pictures of these hands on things?
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Tamiflu was developed by Roche and Giliad. No connection to (now defunct) Searl whatsoever.
H1N1 is an old virus, and indeed it killed scores in 1917-1918. Till now, nobody knows for a fact which strain will be more potent in which human population.
If you are to balme somebody, blame the media which made a show ot of it. I was in Mexico for a week and came back 2 days before the first report on national TV and never bothered with a vaccine. So you can add human ignorance to the blame list.
What do yuo have against Aspartame? It's used all over the world for decades. Or is it better to pig-out on sugar and grow a lard bottom?
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Want to take a stab at who was Chairman of Giliad until 2001?
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/19/wikileaks_shut_down_in_us/
They even set up an injunction against any other ISP that wanted to host them. What a scam, what a restriction of free speech.
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If the U.S. was really interested in saving journalism, they wouldn't have shut down Wikileaks. The problem is they only want to destroy true journalism, journalism can exist perfectly fine without governmental legislation designed to "help" it (as wikileaks has shown). Why should the government be trusted to help journalism anyways, as an entity with a conflict of interest in the matter it should be none of their business. They don't want to help journalism, they want to cover up all their crimes and act like they don't do anything wrong and that those who resist their criminal behavior are the criminals who should be suppressed. Why should an entity with a conflict of interest in the matter be allowed or trusted to "save" journalism when the entity itself has an interest in destroying it, just like it did outside the MSM.
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http://articles.sfgate.com/2008-03-01/bay-area/17166776_1_julius-baer-injunction-swiss-b ank
So why doesn't wikileaks update its site anymore? I remember reading something about having budget problems somewhere but I don't see it anymore. Does anyone know? I remember reading FDA leaked documents about the swine flu on there, which is why I brought it up, because their documents were pretty accurate and indicated that the whole thing might have been exaggerated well before its time. Sorry if it's kinda off topic.
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No, not the UN
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That's why people fighting for a response to climate change can never win. If they manage to get any changes made, and they prevent the worst from happening, people will claim it was all a hoax because nothing happened.
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Those that did catch it suffered minor flu like symptoms and the few who died were seriously ill to begin with and probably would have died from catching the common cold.
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Swine Flu is not Y2K
Conversely, I know a lot of people who got the swine flu, including me, and it was a lot like the normal flu. For what it's worth, none of them died. Many more people died from the normal flu than swine flu. Many more people died from car accidents, heart disease, and cancer than swine flu. The swine flu certainly had the potential to kill, but the danger was mostly to babies and the elderly (who are always in danger of dying from the regular flu as well as many other things that are not normally life threatening. Those people were vaccinated and everything went ok.
If anything this reminded me of the SARS issue a few years ago. I think most people hit the nail on the head when they say that it turned out to be no big deal. They say this because they know people who had SARS/H1N1 and it wasn't a huge problem, not just because the epidemic was avoided. Instead of instigating a nationwide panic the WHO should have got the word out to vaccinate small children, the elderly, and people with immune system issues. Then, if there was vaccine left use it for people who work in the medical industry, and then the rest of us.
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H1N1 is the same. It was a problem. It needed to be addressed. Did the WHO expect it to kill millions like the pandemic of 1918? Probably not. Even early on it did not appear to be more lethal when compared to the regular flu. But as you just said, you got it. And a lot of people you know got it. I guess you're all the sick people that the guy who claimed everyone he knew and himself were hanging around sick people but never got sick. But it's not about just the death count. Having 20%, or 50%, or more of your workforce out sick would be a huge drain on the economy. That's what the WHO was trying to prevent.
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Baxter sent out...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfwdb9UvUag
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Just over 14,000 deaths WORLDWIDE can be attributed to Swine Flu, and the percent of people infected that died from it is 0.3%. In other words, Swine Flu killed 2.33e6 of the world population in 2009. Roughly 91 million people died in total worldwide in 2009, meaning that Swine Flu's death rate was 1.54e4, or infintesimally small.
Other causes of death by rate, according to the WHO:
-Diarrhea was responsible for 3.15% of deaths in 2009 (damn you, Taco Bell!)
-Malaria 2.23% of deaths
-Traffic Accidents 2.09%
-Suicide 1.9%
-Measles 1.09% (WTF? Measles?)
-Violence .98%
-Starvation .85%
-Falling Down .69%
-Drowning .67%
-Asthma .42%
-War .3%
That's why this was so stupid. Not unused vaccines. Unused brains....
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Feel free to cut and paste that into each posting and use the time I've saved you to go troll other blogs.
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And headlines are designed to grab your attention. You actually need to read the post and related article to get the whole picture, which you always claim is still not there. If he were actually trying to be misleading, why would he link to the article?
Plus it doesn't help your cause that you say this about EVERY effing post! You're the boy who cried, "mike's wrong." So now, even if you were to be right one time (not that you are here), nobody will listen to you because you've proven yourself to be a contrarian in all things Techdirt.
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to all the people...
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They probably all had flu shots. I have never had a flu shot, and I haven't had the flu since I was a kid. Colds, on the other hand, I get all the time, so it's not like I've got a great immune system, but I avoid flu shots like the plague. Pun intended.
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Sits near BIG RED PANIC BUTTON
scream , run orund neighborhood , and say :
"WE'RE ALL DOOMED"
haha
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Simple fact is flu kills tens of thousands every single year.
The only thing special about H1N1 was the pointless panic it caused and the killing the Pharmaceuticals made from it
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I had to go the the hospital, I could hear my lungs gurgle while I was struggling to breath. If I was not in good physical condition I suspect I could have easily died.
Not a nice virus and their attempts to control the spread was well worth it in my mind.
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No doubt....
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Conflict of Interest
That the medical, legal, banking, systems do not serve the interests of the public, but only their own interests. Quite apart from the controlling regulations is the integrity of the people in those positions. It is usually "greed" that motivates them to those positions in the first place. A 2000 year old axiom still holds true today, "power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely".
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A turn for the worse
"I never had a flu shot, and I've never been ill! Combine that with three other anecdotes and this is proof that flu shots are all about "Big Pharma" greed!"
Discuss H1N1 as a hype issue, or even the aspect of an organization that should do and know better taking their lead from buisnesses that have a profit interest.
But please don't use this conversation to bear your grudges about the one thing that medicine has created that is actually scientifically proven to be helpful when made and used correctly.
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"as a side effect of making money for the industry" !!!!!
sure, if you were going after the duds that put magnets in blankets to fix back pain, or homatheraphy that I can understand who money is the main motivator, but you dont get FDA approval for drugs because they are expensive to make, you get approval because they work.
And I know YOU KNOW THAT mike.........
Do you actually BELIEVE what you say ?
So what would you have said if the government and pharma UNDERESTIMATED the threat ? and it was much worse that necessary, and MORE people DIED.
(and yes, people DIED from this) how do you exagerate DEATH !!!.)
but according to you pharma, make drugs to make money and fixing people is a side effect !! OMFG Mike.
Clearly you have never required some life saving drugs to keep you alive, or have never taken an asprin for a headache.
Let me guess, the pharma industry, manufactured and introduced HiV AIDS, so that they could make heaps of money inventing new drugs to fight it ?
Please Mike, PLEASE regain some balance, you really do appear to be overdosing on youre own Cool Aid.
You keep making wild claims and are clearly way off base and people will start to see you for what you are and what you real goals are.
The pharma industry make drugs to make money, saving and fixing people is an accendental side effect !!!.
No mike, does not work that way.
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Kool-Aid™
Kraft Foods, Inc. thanks you for your cooperation.
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There are a great deal of others who were involved with the great global swine flu scam
But it is not alone.
There are a great number of people that have vested interests with big pharma, Nature magazine included. Indeed in early 2008 when swine flu was not even known, Nature publshed an article that destroyed the alternative and only strategy that would clean the world of pandemics - http://avian-influenza.cirad.fr/content/download/1931/11789/file/Kennedy-F-Shortridge.pdf - the preventative strategy and based on the premise of never letting it happen in the first place
Butler the publisher of the article in January 2008 that destroyed this strategy recently supported these people (his friends who are advisers at the WHO and big pharma) - http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100608/full/465672a.html
Not really strange, really.
That is what the people of the world are up against, vested interests in all walks of life of big pharma and the power that they have at their control.
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In response to the criticism, the WHO has launched two investigations, including one by an independent panel of experts led by Harvey Fineberg, who heads the Institute of Medicine at the U.S. National Academy of Sciences.
From the linked article.
This is what separates scientifically-based institutions like public health and other medical organizations from faith-based organizations of all stripes - self-correction.
And, in defense of the pharma industry - guilty as they are of many, many offenses - they are also one of the few industries that regularly make large positive impacts on large numbers of people's quality of life and lifespan.
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