Don't Read Too Much Into The Claims That Intellectual Ventures Returns Are Negative
from the too-early-to-tell dept
A bunch of folks have sent over the story from TechCrunch, based on a tweet from Chris Dixon that patent hoarding giant Intellectual Ventures isn't doing so hot for those who invested in it. Now, it's no secret that I'm no fan of Intellectual Ventures. I believe the company represents a huge tax on innovation and has a variety of very questionable business practices. I would be very happy to hear that it was doing poorly. But, unfortunately, the numbers being revealed are mostly meaningless.That's because the IRR for a venture fund, especially in the early years, is pretty meaningless. A typical venture fund lasts ten years, and the first few years is when all that money is being invested, and there's no real returns. On top of that (and, more importantly), the IRR is usually reported based on a totally made up number, which is what the VCs believe their portfolio is valued at, since it doesn't involve a liquid market. VCs were afraid that publishing such numbers would freak people out, and lead VCs to focus on more short-term investments. I don't think that's really happened, but it does appear that the Intellectual Ventures funds represented here (showing IRRs of -73% and -10%) might not really mean anything.
Without knowing the details of what those funds represent, or how long the timeframe is for those funds, it's difficult to assess what's really going on. It does look like IV isn't valuing its first fund very highly any more, and considering it's Intellectual Ventures I, perhaps you can assume it's further along in the process. But, in a game where a sudden "home run" can change things quickly (even if we're talking about patent infringement lawsuits or licensing demands, rather than true venture investments), it's difficult to make any serious call on the performance just yet.
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Mixed bag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C5vkbtpdN4
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Re: Mixed bag
Tied to this, the authors pointed out that IV spent a lot of money on projects (like the climate control), which weren't expected to make any money. Once I realized they were the group who sued everyone for infringement, it made me wonder if their "cheap and simple" solutions would remain that way.
As you say, "mixed bag".
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Insects generally hear frequencies from about 30K to 60K, depending on the specific insect in question. Humans don't really hear frequencies that high. Now imagine what a burden a constant smoke detector going off in your house would be. Basically, that's what this sounds like to insects. It interferes with their ability to hear other things and their hearing is an important aspect of their survival. It's a huge deterrent to their survival.
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Furthermore, the laser target just female mosquitos (based on the beat frequency of their wings), not all insects. I'm not an expert on animal hearing, but I doubt you'd find a sound that specific. You wouldn't want to drive your chickens crazy in the process of keeping mosquitos away.
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