Freakonomics Does 'Pay What You Want' Screening
from the reasons-to-buy? dept
Last month, we talked about how the new Freakonomics movie was going to flip the traditional windowing methodology, and get released online before it was in theaters. At the time, Stephen Dubner warned that there was also going to be another "wrinkle" in how they released the movie. I'm not sure if this is it, but it's been announced that there is going to be a special "pay what you want" screening in select cities (Los Angeles, San Francisco, Washington D.C., Chicago, Boston, Dallas, Philadelphia, Denver, and Seattle). Free isn't an option, however. The prices range from $0.01 to $100, and you also have to answer some survey questions. I'm always a little hesitant to buy into straight "pay what you want" deals, because I don't think they represent much -- and I worry that people read too much into the results of any particular experiment, especially when little is done to give people a real reason to buy on top of the content. So, to some extent, I worry how Levitt and Dubner might interpret any results from this experiment.Filed Under: economics, freakonomics, movie, pay what you want
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I agree that it *can* work, and that it's an interesting model to watch. But my real worry with it is that many people think that if you just put things out there with "pay what you want" that the people will come and pay. It leaves out the real *reason to buy*. People will support pay what you want if the content creator has really made an effort to connect with fans, and set things up so that there's value in belonging or in patronage. Just doing pay what you want alone tends not to be enough -- and then people whine that it doesn't work. So I'd rather people really think through the whole model, rather than just the simplistic "pay what you want" aspect of it.
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IDK
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I would think the best way to do it is have everyone entering the theater pay 1c. After the movie, depending on their satisfaction level, they are given the option to pay more.
I can't say that I would pay $10 up front for a movie that may indeed suck if I had the option to pay less.
Maybe that's just me though. *shrugs*
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How might it turn out differently if it was a true donate system? Or perhaps allow entrance and exit free, but offer a tiered gift based upon your donation level at the exit?
Lots of not-for-profit agencies have 'levels' of Donor giving (0-$50, $51-$200, $201-$1000, etc) ... and these levels impart increasing levels of benefit to the donor.
It goes back to a common theme discussed here on techdirt ... give the customer a reason to buy!
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Chicago screening
Mike, that 2nd link in the article doesn't appear to be valid. I need to know what theatre it's in so I know where to get drunk before the movie....
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Techdirt Chicago screening party, anyone?
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Heh. I might actually be in Chicago that day... not sure yet
(typing this from Midway on my way out of town...)
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Well, I'm definitely going, and Duffy's IS right down the street. If you end up in town, feel free to let me know.
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Pay before or after?
Better yet, have people pay for admission at some screenings, and pay upon exiting at others. Then compare. Ooh I hope they do that!
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Yeah... actually, that would be very interesting.
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The exchange is not money
But mainly I suspect these guys know what they are doing.
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So if they try to sell coffee mugs and T-Shirts, (which is the only answer I have ever heard you give on how others with content only products like music and movies can make money) they should make millions.
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Since when were music and movies content only products?
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Huh? I've never said that coffee mugs and t-shirts is the solution. I don't think those are very good deals actually.
Anyway, when dealing with movies, a big part of the industry has always been based on selling scarcities: seats. That hasn't changed.
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Looooooooooooootttttttttttttsssssss of t-shirts.
Should save you some typing.
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Pay after is what I want..
http://www.avclub.com/articles/pay-what-you-want-to-see-freakonomics-the-movie%2C45265/
2. I'd love to pay after I've seen the movie, think of that as straight up mass ratings. No more "This movie earned top dollar this weekend, so it's the best" It would be "This move has the highest average price paid after screening it really IS the best"
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$0.01 or Free?
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More to this?
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More to this?
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First, you have more money for the popcorn and drinks, and it would be great if there is actual data showing that lowering licensing fees = more money for movie theaters individually.
It'll be interesting to see what comes up, and I will most definitely go to the Dallas show because I want to see this live "Bagel experiment" as it progresses.
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I think it's safe to say that a good movie that the audience really enjoying is going to generate a lot more revenue than a lukewarm turkey.
THAT is a message i'd like to see fall on the doorstep of the world's content creators - generate a good product and you'll make more money.
Asking me to pay "what I like" before I see the movie is too arbitrary - it gives me no basis on which to decide how much to donate.
If I pay before the film, I might toss in $5. If I loved the movie and they put a hat in front of me AFTERWARDS, i'm likely to throw in a $20 and say "keep the change, it was great!"
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As a guy in a band that often has to pass a bucket around to earn a buck, I know this from experience.
But as was mentioned earlier, I suspect that the movie theater will see a bump in concession sales, which is good since that's where they make their money. The only reason these movie theaters are able to show the film for free is because the filmmakers aren't charging them a huge fee for the reels, I presume. It's an interesting strategy for the Freakonomics film, because otherwise I'd be unsure of it being released in theaters at all.
Still, I think it's silly for people to say that they shouldn't have to pay for a film that they've sat through in its entirety just because they didn't like it. That's like people who eat an entire meal at a restaurant but don't want to pay because something was "wrong" with the food. Though nothing so wrong with it that they couldn't eat it apparently. And anyone who's spent time in the food industry knows that people try this sort of thing *all* the time. So you'll forgive me if I scoff at the idea that people will be so moved that they'll just decide to start giving away money for something that's already over.
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That's why it's an experiment - we're not sure of the outcome.
I would like to see both models tried - asking for "pay what you want" before and after the movie and see what the results are.
I do think it's far too cynical to assume that an appreciable number of people will balk at the idea of paying anything because they simply don't have to.
I think if you tell people in advance that you'd like them to pay after they've seen it, and pay an amount proportional to how much they enjoyed it, most people will feel a sense of responsibility and follow through.
And I do believe people will absolutely pay more for something they enjoyed - I see it as a natural instinct. Especially if people understand the concept "hey, if you liked this movie and want to see the film maker continue to make movies, it's only going to happen if he makes money..."
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You've got to be kidding
Free isn't worth it, if you don't like the product.
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A radical enhancement of PWYW, with consequences for unfairmess
FairPay (Fair PWYW) is a radically new pricing process that builds on the flexibility and participation that PWYW offers to buyers, but motivates them to pay fairly. It works where there is an ongoing relationship of continuing sales, and tracks how fairly buyers pay. If they pay fairly, the seller continues to extend more FairPay offers to them. If they do not pay fairly, they lose the privilege of continuing to buy on a FairPay basis, and must pay a conventional set price for future purchases. Unlike PWYW, FairPay is a two-way dialog that creates consequences for not paying fairly.
Because of this feedback cycle, this FairPay process may not work so well for single sales, like one movie or one album or one book, but can be very powerful for an ongoing series of sales. For example:
--An ongoing service of movie previews much like the Freakonomics movie offer...
--Individual songs from a collection of albums, offered in series, one at a time, or in small bundles...
--Individual items from a catalog of book chapters, articles, podcasts, or videos...
The process begins with one of a few low-value items, to test how the buyer sets prices. If the prices are reasonable, a few more items are offered. As the buyer builds a reputation for pricing fairly, more FairPay credit is extended (but never so much that there is too much risk that the buyer is done and will pay nothing for a valuable bundle). So perhaps it might better be called Pay-What-You-Think-Fair, because that is the result.
Details are at teleshuttle.com/FairPay.
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Re: A radical enhancement of PWYW, with consequences for unfairmess
Not that it isn't obvious, but you should disclose your relationship with the company/program when you're shilling like this.
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PWYW
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