The Owner Of A Site That Tracks Reports Of Bedbug Infestations Threatened By Upset Hotel Owners
from the let-me-introduce-you-to-section-230 dept
Rose M. Welch points us to a report from Poynter about the site Bedbugregistry.com. As you might have heard, there's been a lot of attention paid to bedbug infestations lately, and that site is often cited by journalists covering the story. According to the Poynter report, hotel owners have often threatened to sue the site because they don't like seeing their hotels on the list. I'm sure they don't, but it's disappointing that the Poynter article doesn't point out that the operator of the site, Maciej Ceglowski, is protected by Section 230. That seems like an important element of the story. As it is, it kind of suggests that a hotel owner could have a lawsuit. While they could file one, it's unlikely that it would get very far, due to the clear safe harbors in Section 230.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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These Hotel Owners
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....could use a vacation.
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I guess you can say that the site really
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BUGS them.
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Yes DH, I'm a lazy bastard.
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(okay seriously, this has to end, because I could do the whole movie....)
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The website should put not only the reports of bed bugs but the legal threats send by some stabilishments so people can think about what kind of place is that, that don't want to deal with bad knews.
I feel that people are trying to destroy quality control.
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This is actually kind of important
Even if you are not in Ohio, check out that site if you are going to stay at a hotel. Even if it seems stupid to you, it is a lot less stupid than trying to get rid of the damn things.
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Yes it is, they are very persistent and hard to get rid of. One thing that helps tremendously is a product called diatomaceous earth. Its a fine powder that, once the bugs walk through it (the only drawback, they HAVE to traverse it at some point) it cuts up their exoskeletons and kills them within 48 hours. Use a paint brush to spread it thinly around your bed area especially, and any other area you see signs. Also, if you are able, wrap your mattresses in plastic and seal them. That cuts 90% of the infestation right there, as they tend to try to breed and feed within the mattress. Good luck, they are disgusting creatures and more than just pests.
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Do they really need safe harbor protection...
Something like this shouldn't even get to the judge, much less the courtroom. And threatening to sue just for the sake of scare tactics should be just as illegal as threatening bodily harm.
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Actually, bedbugregistry.com could be full of posting that are complete lies added just because patrons were not happy - or even postings from competing hotel owners and they would still have no case.
Since bedbugregistry.com does not post anything, it is the users that would have to be the targets of any lawsuit - that is the point of section 230 - to place the blame on the person that writes the comment rather than the website that that are writing the comment on.
Lawyers that bring lawsuits against the wrong party should be disbarred.
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Safe Harbor?
The bedbug registry site has established itself as an authority on bedbug infestations and the owners have invited contributors without any oversight. Given that the site is small and focussed on only one subject, the safe-harbor defense may not apply.
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I am now off to research safe harbor provisions in law.
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That is simply not true. Section 230 (and the associated case law) says absolutely nothing about the size of the service, or even whether or not it is possible to control the content. In fact, it says the opposite.
The bedbug registry site has established itself as an authority on bedbug infestations and the owners have invited contributors without any oversight. Given that the site is small and focussed on only one subject, the safe-harbor defense may not apply.
Can you point to a single bit of caselaw that supports that claim? There is none.
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It's all a Matter of Degree
1. To inhabit or overrun in numbers or quantities large enough to be harmful, threatening, or obnoxious.
I would say one bed bug bite would be obnoxious.
Who here is old enough to remember bed legs put in kerosene so as a mote was created to keep them off the beds?
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Bedbugs are Here
I'm guessing the complaining hotels are the ones that do not spend much on exterminators.
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