Interesting Timing: Senate Passes Federal Whistleblower Protection Bill
from the as-we-torture-one... dept
We were just highlighting how the government is terrible at protecting whistleblowers -- with particular attention to the horrific treatment of Bradley Manning. As all of this is going on, it's worth pointing out that the Senate (apparently without much sense of irony) has passed a "Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act," which would seek to grant greater protections to government employees who blow the whistle on government wrongdoing. Of course, some have concerns with the new bill, in that it specifically weakens some protections for "the intelligence community," while increasing protections for other government employees.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Small point of contention: The "backdoor draft" is what the military calls "stop-loss." It's when you've finished active duty, but they involuntarily re-up you to go fight another tour in whatever Middle Eastern country we've invaded this time.
The "economic draft" argument is different... though I'm betting with the economy, we'll be hearing more about it pretty soon.
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http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/10/1034.html
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Whistleblowing vs. Treason
I am not condoning his alledged treatment at all, but things tend to take on a different light when you realise this is not a private citizen, but a member of the armed forces who has "signed away" certain rights to be in that position.
I don't mean to play Devil's Advocate here, but my facebook friends, some who have served for the US, have family who served, and some others who are more articulate in their expression, point out that "whistleblowing" really has no meaning when it comes to military justice.
I don't know enough to really take a side here, but one thing I can say, is that there needs to be some expediancy due with the Manning case, for the longer it drags on, the worse it looks for the US, just like in the David Hicks/Guantanomo Bay saga.
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He was FORCED to "sign them away" when he was drafted. You cannot oppose drafting in the US, right? So he was in fact forced to serve, right?
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Please learn about the US military before commenting on it. The US does NOT have the draft and has not had it since the Vietnam War. Regardless of how you feel, or want to believe, when you enter the military you do so of your own volition, and part of that is the recognition that certain freedoms and rights do not apply to you. A functioning military needs this.
As regards Manning, however, I support what he did completely. From what it sounds like, members of his own command screwed with him, and sometimes when you screw with some people, they get theirs back. I'd be investigating his chain of command to see what they did to pressure Manning into releasing these documents in the first place.
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Consider that maybe some of us were not blessed with the same level of education you were. You condescending FUCK.
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First you volunteer to join, second is you dont have to deploy if you dont want however there is consequences if you go AWOL.
When you sign on the dotted line nobody is threatning you with jail time or has a gun to your head.
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The year after I drew the lottery number of 23 for the draft, the draft was ended in the United States.
So there was no "Force" nor was he drafted, He was a volunteer. In fact the last call for a draft was in Nov. of 06 by a Congressman who was recently "Censured" in the Well of Congress.
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Remember, whistleblowing is a time-honored tradition that has not always included legal protections. In fact, many whistleblowers, including Daniel Ellsburg, weren't acting legally when they became whistleblowers, either, but were later exonerated by the courts.
Ironically, the Pentagon Papers are still classified.
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There's a concept called "proofreading". It takes 30 seconds. Can I invite you to do this next time you feel the need to post what is the equivalent of a jack-ass heehawing?
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When he went before the Judge after after he was busted with his brothers dope, the Judge gave him a ultimatum, 5 years prison OR 2 years military.
He chose the later, obviously, he couldn't believe that 6 months in he was sitting on a beach having a 'cold one' with me and my family.
It was a successful program for him I guess, I did wonder however, how many it's NOT a successful program for and how many members of the US military are actually ex criminals.
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At any rate, both of these individuals' character was already questionable (in MY eyes, at least) even before I learned of their ultimatum situation; I thought even less of them once I knew.
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From the change I saw in my brother, going from a pussy-whipped whiner to a very respectable man who has his shit together more than I do, I say that one's past doesn't matter that much in who they are after joining service.
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Also, I would have to say that Manning wasn't whistleblowing on any one person or situation, but rather attempting to damn the entire system. Whistleblowing is more like "so and so is stealing from the company" and not "this embassy person said something naughty about someone".
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Only in America...
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When it comes to the cables, it gets murkier.
There may be things in those cables that need the whistle blowing. But releasing them en masse means you cannot have checked them and some will simply have a destructive effect when aired without actually exposing any wrongdoing.
Of course, Bradley Manning (if 'twas he, and he's innocent until proven guilty) probably doesn't have the resources to check through 250k cables, so he'd delegate looking through them to Wikileaks. I wonder what unwritten "contract" he had with Wikileaks exactly ?
Therefore I expect Wikileaks to honour his sacrifice by spending the time to just release stuff that needs the whistle blowing, and not do anything that is just blatantly destructive.
That assumes that whistleblowing is the objective.
If "destroying the secrecy of government" is actually the aim, that is a wider goal and one for which you could argue any secret doc can be released.
You might believe in this cause and think Julian Assange is a hero for it, but you'd probably be forced to admit he'd breached the law in pursuit of such a goal, however well intentioned the goal. There's no law protecting people who simply aim to reveal secrets for the hell of it !
I think that even if the whistleblowing laws did extend to Bradley Manning, it would be easy to argue that (for example) exposing secret embassy messages reporting the views of the Saudi leader are NOT whistleblowing per se. They don't seek to expose hidden wrongdoing.
So there'd still be a ton of stuff they could string Manning up for.
I think the way the US has handled it has been counter productive. The most futile game of whack-a-mole ever.
I wonder if Wikileaks are actively toning down the embarrassment for countries that have so far given tacit support for Assange's rights ?
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Further, I don't consider anything released to be "just for the hell of it"--rather, the intent is that the U.S. be given appropriate insight into the games its elected officials are playing, and therefore demand accountability, and theoretically vote better choices into those positions that have been abused.
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The first rule of USAF...
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So a true court of law in a truly free country would have to exonerate him from any wrongdoing.
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leaving nothing on hard drive to implicate you in these tough times
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Conspiracy
or a conspiracy theorist. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2010/nov/30/hillary-clinton-wikileaks-us-embassy-cables-video
Hillary Clinton, not only admits to the content of the documents, by saying, confidential and private conversations, but goes on to say that the policies from these observations are made in Washington.
Or am I reading too much between the lines. I don't know you decide.
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