Future Of Music Coalition Looks To Catalog Artist Revenue Streams
from the sounds-useful dept
The Future of Music Coalition, who has put together a big list of revenue streams for musicians, as a tool for getting them to think about alternative business model opportunities, is now trying to take that idea even further. So it's now launching the "Artist Revenue Streams Project" to dig into how artists are actually making money today, and how that's been changing over time. This seems like it should be a very useful project. FMC is looking for candidates to interview, so if you're a musician, check out the application questions. The overall project will be opened up to a wider audience eventually, but for the initial part, they want to conduct in-depth interviews with a variety of musicians to help establish the later survey. What's not entirely clear, yet, is if FMC intends to release the eventual data publicly. One would hope (and assume?) so, but it's not mentioned explicitly. No matter what, getting more data on these things can only be a good thing.
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Given the wide range of musicians that FMC has connections to, I find this to be unlikely. Odd that you would make the assertion, though. Do you have some insight into the FMC that the rest of us do not?
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I am also not clear that they have good contacts for garage to arena size acts. You need a reasonably large sample to be able get representative data for all of those groups.
What works for one will not work for the other.
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This is factually incorrect, but okay.
The sample size by category is likely to be too small to draw conclusions.
You seem to have misunderstood. They are reaching out to a smaller group initially just to talk to a variety of artists and get a feel for what they have to say, and once they feel they have a strong enough grasp, will then open it up wide to any musician. You seem to have ignored the latter part.
But, either way, the point of this is not an overall "survey," but to highlight the different revenue streams. Assuming that the sample size is too small, the very worst that would happen is that they would undercount the streams.
I am also not clear that they have good contacts for garage to arena size acts
In other words, you know nothing about FMC so you're making it up.
Okay.
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No, I am saying it isn't clear to me. I haven't studied the group in detail, nor do I really care to. I just think that this has the potential to be another misleading collection of non-facts and personal experiences that doesn't add up to much, except perhaps to give you some more biased material to work from. Viva la Masnick Effect! :)
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Good to know we can dismiss everything you say right off the bat.
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I know plenty. What I know is that casually asking people you know "how are things going" won't get you a very good data set. Those who are succeeding are likely not to tell it all, and those who are doing poorly but trying to keep up a brave face will lie through their teeth about what is working.
It isn't very scientific, and unless the group has a truly massive connection to the community in question, they will be getting at best subset data from people who want to talk. Not exactly going to give a great result, except it is very likely to fill their pre-selected desired result. In that regard, they are using the Masnick Effect. :)
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They are asking if you are willing to give up financial information if you go throught the questionare. I think that will make the results more accurate as the ones putting on a good show can be weeded out. As I said before. With how connected the world is. You need to know how the fans forward info and links, how the artist relates to the fans, what the fans preferences are music wise, etc. to get a clear picture.
The best they can come up with is a rough "7 habits of effective artists". Mike has already done that but hasn't put it down as a single list yet.
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Thanks, I missed "Revenue Streams" part. I take back about half of what I said in the comments for this post.
I would really like to see the list they come up with for revenue stream. Then check if they are viable methods for the record labels. It might change my end date on the record labels upwards.
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It wont work even if you do force them at gun point. It won't work without looking at the fans, the artists, the fans group of friends and how they communicate and spread the word, how the artist communicates with fans, etc. This seems like someone is trying to come up with a statistics based cookie cutter approach to music sales on the internet.
From that you can come up with a "7 Habits of Highly Effective Artists(people)". With 5 million plus artists and bands out there. Knowing these habits, is not going to do much good for any length of time. They will all start copying you. Making what you are doing less effective.
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def - Glut : to flood (the market) with certain goods so that the supply is greater than the demand.
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Photography went through a similar thing. Everyone carries a decent camera today and some of them are learning how to use the cameras. Like the monkey typing forever, eventually everyone takes a good shot. Making "professional" photographers irrelevant or non-viable as a business.
Market Glut at its best.
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As I replied to this in another post....so what?
I would rather the market decide which is noise and which is signal rather than you or some other executive deciding it for everyone else.
The internet is designed to be a 2-way communication system. Which means that the days of controlled media hype are dying. Media hype on the internet is by nature uncontrollable, it can go whichever way it wants to (ala Streisand Effect). I believe this really scares the middleman in the recording industry because they can no longer decide which group they will hedge their bets on, pour all their resources into marketing them to create a market for them to sell their product.
With the internet, the music industry has had their playing field leveled to some degree and now face the same risks that any other business faces - that there is no guaranteed profit in a free market.
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Really nicely said!!!
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We know it isn't from the RIAA.
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a few points of clarification
It is te that this is a multiple-methodology project, which includes batch case studies and a wider survey in conjunction with Pew Internet.
What I personally love about the former -- besides the fact that we do have really great contacts who have been incredibly gracious with their financial data and experiences -- is that it is a remarkably diverse sample set. Big acts and small acts across genres.
What we're hoping for the survey portion is to magnify that approach. The self-selection issue will hopefully be mitigated by the wide net we're casting.
At the end of the day, there's really been no real attempt to figure out how, say, a small chamber orchestra musician or a modern jazz composer draws revenue in the new market. Even with the huge acts, there could stand to be some data. We're just as curious as everyone else, and we think that it would be great to have some real info that isn't necessarily reflective of the major recording industry's preferred numbers. But we'll see.
And yes, Mike, we are planning on releasing all the data publicly, andwill be presenting key component info along the ay to the full report. Wait to you see the interactive graphs. They are HAWT.
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Interesting Project
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Financial numbers of any sort will be useful
I've seen the math for those I have worked with. And I have gotten some numbers from others in casual conversation: "What did you make on that gig?" "Where do you buy your merch and what do they charge you?"
Whatever FMC is able to turn up will be more than we have now. It may or may not be representative of all musicians (and if it isn't, I'm sure people will point it out), but collecting at least a small pool of examples will be helpful for those of us wanting to know who is making what in this business.
The current situation, where people tell us they are successful, but then don't provide actual numbers, isn't very helpful. I'd learn something even if just a few bands/artists are saying: "This is what we make. This is how we make it. This is how we spend it."
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List of revenue streams
http://futureofmusic.org/blog/2009/10/14/29-streams
This revenue streams list has been reviewed by a handful of copyright experts and artist attorneys, but if anyone can think of others, please feel free to contact me.
As to the reasons behind this research. We are as curious as a lot of people who read Techdirt about musicians' livelihood. Technological innovations have certainly changed the landscape and make it easier for musicians to *access* the marketplace, but how have these changes affected musicians' ability to *make a living*, if at all? Analyses up to this point have been mostly anecdotal, or based on top-down data that only looks at one revenue stream (say, digital download sales). What will be find out? We have some hypotheses, but we won't know until we do the work. We look forward to sharing the results widely.
If anyone wants to know more about the project's methodology or specific research components, I am happy to discuss.
http://futureofmusic.org/article/research/artist-revenue-streams
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And this recent article gives another reason why getting your music in a movie doesn't pay you as much as it did.
Cutting Edge Tries New Model for Film Music - NYTimes.com: "But music budgets have been dwindling for at least a decade, as piracy, cheap downloads and collapsing CD sales made it virtually impossible for film producers to recoup from hit soundtracks the money they spend on music."
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It was not claimed to be a representative survey
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catalog artist?
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