TSA Says 'You Might Be A Terrorist If... You Complain About The TSA'
from the seriously-guys? dept
Ah, the TSA. Apparently among the "behavioral factors" that the TSA uses in determining who might be a criminal or a terrorist is... if you complain about the TSA. I guess that means I'm in line for some extra scrutiny. Honestly, though, this sounds a lot more like punitive action against people who complain, rather than a legitimate characteristic of someone who deserves extra scrutiny. Specifically, one of the factors is if someone is:"Very arrogant and expresses contempt against airport passenger procedures."An ACLU person quoted in the article wonders if this violates the First Amendment, in that it's going after someone for expressing their opinion:
"Expressing your contempt about airport procedures -- that's a First Amendment-protected right," said Michael German, a former FBI agent who now works as legal counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union. "We all have the right to express our views, and particularly in a situation where the government is demanding the ability to search you."Honestly, you'd have to think that a real terrorist or criminal, hoping to avoid calling attention to themselves, wouldn't be openly hostile to the search procedure, but would try to be quiet and blend in. Perhaps the TSA will defend this latest ridiculousness by saying it's all okay because it's standard operating procedure.
"It's circular reasoning where, you know, I'm going to ask someone to surrender their rights; if they refuse, that's evidence that I need to take their rights away from them. And it's simply inappropriate," he said.
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Just let them do their jobs
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Scan em naked, grope em, take their bottled water, grope their kids, feed em plastic food, charge for peanuts, steal their luggage, skullfuck their personal dignity, expose their prosthetics, break their colostomy bags, throw away their shampoo bottles... American air travelers are nothing if not masochists.
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We decided to just rent a house in Jersey on the beach, an hour away by car, since I won't even consider the possibility of going through this TSA crap.
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Screw the airlines, and the TSA. I even refuse to fly for business, and have legitimate health reason for it, even though it probably wouldn't be that big a deal. Nonetheless, why even take the slightest risk of an adverse reaction to it?
If I do go to Europe, the Caribbean, and elsewhere, I will take a boat. Yeah, it takes more time. I have the time. I will gladly waste it whilst enjoying myself. To me, the act of flying is like the act of vomiting. Sometimes you might have no choice, but if you do, you won't do either.
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And it already happen a dozen times already.
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You assume that public anger or resentment will change anything.
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When are people going to realize and understand that the constitution isn't actually written for us but for them (the capitalists)? That explains alot about what's going on recently.
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But wait it gets better
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Goosestepping anyone?
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The first rule of security theater is...
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Is the TSA still part of the Chinese government?
Good work Comrade Napolitano; Mao would be proud of you.
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The proper term is: "Constitutionally Challenged"
or "Republican".
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The "retarded" are not doing this to america. It is the TSA. Started under the republican Bush, and going full steam ahead under Obama the democrat.
The mentally disabled deserve your help not insults.
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It's like those "You might be a redneck" jokes
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How does the government prioritize problems?
This kind of makes sense though, because drunk driving deaths don't affect the economy as much as an equivalent number of deaths from (much more spectacular) airplane hijackings. People would be afraid to fly, the air travel industry would collapse, devastating the tourism industry and the businesses that feed off it. The ripple effect would be huge.
It seems plain that the TSA's primary purpose is to protect the economy, not the public. I'm not saying that's a bad goal. Let's just be honest about it. Protecting the economy is a higher priority than protecting the public.
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Though I am not surprised that the TSa state that anyone who shows contempt of them is scrutinised more than normal since the USG themselves classify any country/individual/organisation that queries their international (and domestic) practices and hypocritical stance on Human Rights, Freedom of Expression, Right of Quiet Enjoyment, Right of Religious and Sexual freedom, Democratic ability for a country to set their OWN laws that might be restrictive to US interests (oh the horror) as a form of Terrorism.
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Uhhhh..... yeah
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Or people who use cellphones while driving, which is even more dangerous. Just shows that it's really all about politics, not safety.
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I am afraid of being felt up, robbed, irradiated, humiliated, "detained without being detained", showing resentment at being treated poorly will lead to worse treatment, and this is wrong.
In the push to stop the terrorists, they have become just as bad, if not worse, than what they claim to be protecting us from.
They are terrorizing the populace, shouldn't they be detaining themselves?
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Safer?
For every person correctly identified as a "high risk" traveler by (the behavior detection officers), 86 were misidentified
86 to one false positive ratio. Outstanding job officer!!!
Even better, still from TFA ...
The Accountability Office said it looked at 23 occasions in which 16 individuals -- people later charged with terrorism-related activities -- passed through high-threat airports. None is known to have been identified.
SO, 86 false positives for every "high risk" person identified. Yet still not a single terrorist?
So we have naked scanners that can't find a gun. Behavioral profiling which incorrectly targets 86 people for every one they correctly identify, and 23 known cases of terrorists going through our "security" and not one was identified.
Yeah, safer, that's the word I'm looking for ...
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The best bet they say is to pack a starter pistol since they are small and no place in the U.S. includes them in handgun bans, but they still qualify as a firearm by the TSA. You would also need the same kind of (lockable?) handgun case or something, it can't just be loose in your luggage, and unloaded of course.
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I really got a laugh out of it too; come and get me, come and get me, come and get me.
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Behavioral Guide to Identifying Abusive Government Organizations
"Very arrogant and expresses contempt against airport passengers."
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No imagination
9/11 succeeded because they were organised, motivated and had the element of surprise. Apart from some idiotic shoe bomber type incidents (ie poorly organised and no real element of surprise), we don't know of any real attempts at a major attack since 9/11.
If the next event is as completely unexpected as a mode of attack as the last one was, it won't be prevented by security that works like this.
The reason I worry is because I have no confidence in law enforcement (or Government)'s imagination.
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In this case, they did that by PUTTING SUPER-STRENGTH DOORS ON THE COCKPITS OF THE PLANES!
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nonsense
Second of all, it's absolutely ridiculous. Like you said, a real terrorist would not be going out of his/her way to draw attention to himself and would be trying to get through security checkpoints as quickly and quietly as possible. This is purely either a punitive measure or simply meant as a deterrent for possible complainants. They're letting the public know to keep your mouth shut and take it...or else.
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America the Police State
Wooo
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Reminds me of the DSLR user = terrorist witch hunt
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Doesn't affect me
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HEY TSA...YOU SUCK!
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Sounds like TSA.....
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well...
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Scary
I used to have contempt for organisation like the UCLA but government is growing to the point were we need better checks and balances to protect individuals rights.
Do not fear your government, the government should fear you.
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tsa
It has degenerated to the Soviet standards except here just like guun laws, the "easy" ones "we the people" are punished. Flying is like going to jail: the TSA remove your shoes, belt, search you, you are one of many unhappy people in a crowded area, your overseers are rude, intellectually challenged, rules made up to suit the occasion, the food sucks or is non existent, confined with uncertainty of getting out of there. They may be arming each TSA "security officer". The Federal grant money from Wash. DC corrupts the local police into protecting the fed system & money source. I never have had a beef with the TSA, people, but they are "obeying orders" (the the Nuremburg war crimes defence) coming from the DC Nazis-in-charge. I do not like to fly, esp. on an airline that goes along with such crap and is operated by lawyers and bureaucrats.
Now they are checking trains and highways......just because it's there......???
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Malaysia is a proven terrorism within/born with
Today I went to Sri Manjung Hospital and an Indian male medical officer said proudly, India country quietly approach to the queen of kingdom of heaven, ask and she replied " Is to be a terrorist or die " If the medical officer worked very hard and diligent to obtain vast of knowledge and speaks very much English and at golden age and a rubber stamp to practice by respect, then what is the very bottom people of kueh keling by millions ? Value of judgement ? Malaysia is a real 3rd world nation. Satisfaction Guaranteed.....3rd World because it is the Country that is of no good. The peoples are just bloody fools.
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TSA B.S
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