Rupert Murdoch's Journalists Accused Of Hacking Into Murdered Girl's Voicemails, Deleting Some

from the classy dept

Wed, Jul 6th 2011 7:24am — Mike Masnick

Well, this is rather horrific. We've mentioned in the past the story about how reporters for Rupert Murdoch's News of the World, one of the many publications in his News Corp. empire, were accused of hacking into the voicemails of hundreds of people. Every few weeks, it seems, more reports surface of people who have had their voicemails hacked. But the latest may be the worst of the bunch. Apparently, after teenager Milly Dowler disappeared in 2002, but before her murdered body was found, reporters hacked into her voicemail. Not only that, but they deleted some messages in order to make more room for new messages. Apparently, the deletions were part of what gave her parents hope that Dowler was still alive, believing that perhaps she was checking her voicemail. Most of the earlier reports on Murdochs' journalists hacking into voicemail had focused on politicians and celebrities. But this sounds like they may have actually destroyed evidence and tampered with an actual police investigation. The company has been paying off some of the celebrities whose voicemail was hacked, but this takes things to an entirely different level.

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Filed Under: eavesdropping, milly dowler, news of the world, rupert murdoch, voicemails
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Jul 2011 @ 7:40am

As sad as this is, little will come of this. One of the ediotors at the time of these hackings tock up a position within the goverment, and our pm is good friends with a few high up individuals at NI . I think they must have some good info on our mp's for this not to have been blown up on every news paper. I just wish our goverment would tell Rupert Murdoch to get the fuck out of our country, he's nothing but trouble and he has a monopoly on most media with value.
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Robert Doyle (profile), 6 Jul 2011 @ 7:41am

Make all of their mail - voice mail, email, paper mail, all of it, completely public and published on a government website. And give everyone access to delete their message or file them wherever.

Treat their privacy like they treat others.
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- Chris-Mouse (profile), 6 Jul 2011 @ 8:14am
  
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  Make all of their mail - voice mail, email, paper mail, all of it, completely public and published on a government website. And give everyone access to delete their message or file them wherever.
  
  Treat their privacy like they treat others.
  
  While it's a nice idea, there's a problem with it. Email involves the privacy of two people, not one. the sender and the recipient. After this sort of privacy violation, the 'reporters' involved don't deserve privacy, but the sources they are in contact with do.
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  - Rich, 6 Jul 2011 @ 9:39am
    
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    Email is not private, never has been.
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Jul 2011 @ 7:42am

Using definitions found in

The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Shot_Liberty_Valance
the internet is very much Cowboy Land without law.

Law is coming but most will not like it as it.

As the internet is worldwide it will always be foreign law with foreign officials applying it by the simple means of extradition since that eliminates the pesky problem of domestic law 'a restrictions.

Everything is illegal somewhere thus everyone's action on the internet is illegal somewhere.

No people will like this and the only results will be to break the internet into regional or national nets.
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- John Doe, 6 Jul 2011 @ 7:50am
  
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  They hacked her voicemail, not the internet so what does the internet have to do with this story? Considering it was 9 years ago and she was 13, I am guessing she wasn't using VOIP.
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  - The Groove Tiger (profile), 6 Jul 2011 @ 10:42am
    
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    It's a series of tubes.
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- BeeAitch (profile), 6 Jul 2011 @ 11:24am
  
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  "Law is coming but most will not like it as it. "
  
  WTF?
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out_of_the_blue, 6 Jul 2011 @ 7:44am

You get Rich by pleasing millions of dolts.
Catering to low tastes, not finer. Therefore, the actual hacking is driven by money. -- And of course with the profits one can buy a title in England and be called "Lord".

So while we can't lay this directly to Murdoch's charge, what's the obvious solution? -- TAX THE RICH until the profit motive is down to reasonable levels. (And for England, do away with the "monarchy" and seize all property of those who deem themselves "nobles".)
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- The eejit (profile), 6 Jul 2011 @ 7:56am
  
  Re: You get Rich by pleasing millions of dolts.
  1) The monarchy are reasonably well-liked for those who don't read the Daily Mail;
  2) I'm firmly in the camp that heads should literally roll for this, especially given that News International initially led to the wrongful arrest of someone later found to be innocent;
  3) This should also draw into question whether NewsCorp should be able top fully take over BSkyB, given the willingness they have shown to blatantly disregard the law;
  4) I'm certain that NewsCorp will have a lot of dirt on some of the UK Cabinet members (especially Osborne);
  5) This revelation has tainted every single high-profile investigation in the UK in the past ten years, from Milly Dowler to the MP Expenses. "Nice investigation. It would be a shame to lose vital info..."
  
  I absolutely agree with you on the 'Lowest Common Denominator' mark. I would bar him and NewsCorp from ever holding a stake in media again, and fine him billions of pounds.
  
  This is sickening and it destroys any trust in journalists that they could have built up. Nice work NewsInt.
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- Dark Helmet (profile), 6 Jul 2011 @ 8:20am
  
  Re: You get Rich by pleasing millions of dolts.
  I like you, Blue. You're the kind of special crazy that makes us mild conspiracy theorists and socialism dabblers seem completely benign in comparison.
  
  Keep up the crazy!
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  - Gwiz (profile), 6 Jul 2011 @ 8:54am
    
    Re: Re: You get Rich by pleasing millions of dolts.
    I like you, Blue. You're the kind of special crazy that makes us mild conspiracy theorists and socialism dabblers seem completely benign in comparison.
    
    I'm sayin. Blue makes my tinfoil wizard hat look downright fashionable.
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- Chargone (profile), 6 Jul 2011 @ 8:29am
  
  Re: You get Rich by pleasing millions of dolts.
  ... this makes so many false assumptions about the nature of monarchy and nobility it's not even funny.
  
  it also sounds amusingly communist.
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Planespotter (profile), 6 Jul 2011 @ 7:55am

Bear in mind that he is also trying to take sole control of BSkyB the largest independant satellite TV service provider in the UK! Hopefully the government won't just give him the green light like they have suggested now that all this has hit the news.
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Jul 2011 @ 8:00am

It should be mentioned that there is alledge confirmation that the victims of 7th July bombing were hacked as well.
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Jul 2011 @ 8:08am

Did they hack in, or did they just get the password off of wikileaks or something like that? Would you feel different if the messages were up on some secret third party board?
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- Chargone (profile), 6 Jul 2011 @ 8:31am
  
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  what password? it's voicemail. it's tied to a physical device which is associated with a phone number.
  
  this comment sounds like it's trying to insinuate something to undermine someone's point... but it honestly doesn't make enough sense to do anything but make it look like you don't know what you're talking about.
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  - Jimr (profile), 6 Jul 2011 @ 8:56am
    
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    I can set my voice mail to automatically work for the default phone number it is assigned to OR I can have restricted by password.
    
    I would think the very least charges would be destroyed evidence and tampered with an actual police investigation. I could see the parents trying to sue for mental anquish or something else. In any case I hope they set an example of with News company and all those involved.
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  - tracker1 (profile), 6 Jul 2011 @ 10:58am
    
    An unlocked door is not an invitation.
    Even if there is no password, which there usually is, it's just that the account the voicemail is tied to can be allowed to bypass it. Beyond this, leaving an unlocked door, doesn't make it any less illegal to enter a private residence without permission. And entering someone else's voicemail without permission is equally a violation. There are wiretap laws that could apply here, not to mention privacy laws, and other encroachments. I think the fine should be $10K per insident (per voicemail listened to) and $100K per account they accessed. Along with $500M in 120 second awareness/apology advertisements on their networks, along with announcements on every one of their networks on the same day.
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- Sean T Henry (profile), 6 Jul 2011 @ 8:42am
  
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  Yes the password was pulled the out of a dead girls brain and submitted to wikileaks, then they got in a time machine to retrieve the data on a webpage that would not be created for another 5 years.
  
  Let me put it this way if you change your voicemail password right now then burn your phone, just after that you are killed. How would I get your voice mail password?
  
  The only ideas I have on doing that is:
  1. Try entering all 10,000 combinations.
  2. Try to have the password reset by the phone company.
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  - The eejit (profile), 6 Jul 2011 @ 9:32am
    
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    OR, yoiu could do what Mulcaire did, pose as a store employee, and ask for the voicemail passcode.
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The Devil's Coachman (profile), 6 Jul 2011 @ 8:17am

Rupert Murdoch's news empire is a bucket of snot, pus and vomit.
So are the members of his audience, and a more slack-jawed bunch of morons has yet to be found. They're the ones who demand to read this shit, and swallow every bit of it as gospel truth. Too bad they breed at such an alarming rate, and it now seems the movie "Idiocracy" will have been prophetic, not too long from now. Makes me glad I'm old and sick enough that I won't have to live to see the final outcome of it.
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Jul 2011 @ 9:02am

I would be happy if as much attention were paid to all the practitioners of bad journalism, beside just going after old Murdoch.
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- Dark Helmet (profile), 6 Jul 2011 @ 9:12am
  
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  You're right. The liberal media - socialist - workers - industrial - murder victims - complex strikes again!
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Overcast (profile), 6 Jul 2011 @ 9:05am

Is anyone actually surprised by this?
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- Anonymous Coward, 6 Jul 2011 @ 9:31am
  
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  Actually, I am.
  
  Surprised that a journalist hacked in and listened to the voicemails? Absolutely no surprise there. I would be surprised to meet a journalist that *didn't* do that kind of thing.
  
  But deleting vm's? It surprises the hell out of me that a journalist would cross that line. Setting aside any Heisenberg-esque discussions, and maybe I'm just naive about journalists today, but that crosses the line from observing the news to being the news, which is a line I thought journalists were very squeamish about crossing.
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  - The eejit (profile), 6 Jul 2011 @ 9:45am
    
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    It goes much, much further than just those. Like I said above, this taints every investigation by Scotland Yard. And not just in a legal sense. I would go so far as to classify this as terrorism, as it's not just an isolated incident, there are allegations going back to the mid-90s.
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Jul 2011 @ 9:56am

I thought hacking was evil and despicable. Seems like everybody was upset at LulzSec and Anonymous for doing it to big corporations instead of a murdered young girl. Where is the outrage?
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Jul 2011 @ 10:50am

Is it really a hack?
My impression is that they are taking advantage of lax security policy at the phone company, and\or outright paying support staff to turn give them access. This is trackable and fixable, if the company chooses to track and fix it.

Doesn't overusing the H word just distract people from the solvable problem of securing these codes?
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- The eejit (profile), 6 Jul 2011 @ 1:12pm
  
  Re: Is it really a hack?
  It can also be hacked using malware, if it's a 1st-gen WAP phone.
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DOlz (profile), 6 Jul 2011 @ 11:08am

To paraphrase Leona Helmsley
Mike, Mike, when are you going to get it, rules are for the little people.
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Joe Smith, 6 Jul 2011 @ 1:21pm

Prison
Given then number of celebrities who have also been victimized this must have been a fairly wide spread practice.

Everyone associated with any of these incidents at News of the World should go to prison.
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Jul 2011 @ 6:12pm

This story keeps getting worse.
It has now been revealed that they hacked the phones of the victims of the 7/7 London tube bombing and war widows.
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- The eejit (profile), 6 Jul 2011 @ 11:37pm
  
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  Again, I would go so far as to call these people terrorists for their actions. They incite the fear and refused to let people grieve; they gave the relatives false hope; and then crushed that - all in the name of greed.
  
  This is worse than the bankers' greed by far, and I suspect that bthe rot goes all the way through Newscorp.
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NadePaulKuciGravMcKi, 6 Jul 2011 @ 10:22pm

controlled media controlled government
extortion blackmail bribery
protect criminals at all cost
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testcore (profile), 7 Jul 2011 @ 2:21am

Irony?
Since the VM's were deleted and are no longer available for use by the family, yet the reporters had the opportunity to benefit from them, isn't that theft?
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wayout, 7 Jul 2011 @ 4:55am

I have to wonder, what would the govt response be if it was a govt agency that was doing the hacking & not a private citizen...would we still see the "outrage" we are currently seeing from the british govt officials..?
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Anonymous Coward, 18 Jul 2011 @ 10:22am

In all of this one part that seems to have gone over the heads of many is where Rebekah Brooks said that the police have been paid for information.
Tomorrow being Tuesday with her appearance at Parliament, I wonder what information will come out about that?
Is the resignation of Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, Sir Paul Stephenson, a precursor to this information.
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