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DA Realizes That Gizmodo Didn't Break The Law In Writing About Found iPhone 4 Prototype

from the took-'em-long-enough dept

Thu, Aug 11th 2011 7:03pm — Mike Masnick

You may recall the huge scoop that the site Gizmodo (part of the Gawker family) got a year and a half ago when it got its hands on a prototype iPhone 4 that someone had accidentally left in a bar. The whole thing got weird when police raided then-Gizmodo editor Jason Chen's house and took all his computer equipment. Many people expected Chen to be charged with a crime, even if the whole thing seemed silly (and, really, what "harm" was caused?). It only took over a year, but the San Mateo County District Attorney has finally announced that no charges will be filed against anyone from Gizmodo. Two others who had the phone were charged, but with misdemeanors. It still seems crazy that they're bothering with this at all, but deciding not to charge Gizmodo employees was a good move, even if it did take over a year.

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Filed Under: gizmodo, iphone 4, jason chen, journalism, liability, scoops
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Anonymous Coward, 11 Aug 2011 @ 8:04pm

they should be charged with receiving stolen goods, since when the guys didn't turn in it at the bar it became stolen property, and when they bought it, they knew they were not buying a legit for sale iPhone you bought down the street

oh but this is something you agree with, so receiving stolen goods doesn't bother you
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Designerfx (profile), 11 Aug 2011 @ 8:22pm

so how much will they pay for the illegal seizure?
I bet that's going to be fun in court.

"hey guys, we obtained a bogus warrant via citing CFAA/"possible criminal activity", and the dude's not guilty. Here's your stuff back, broken, illegally copied, etc".
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Jay (profile), 11 Aug 2011 @ 8:54pm

Re:
Did you read the case? He called the phone, couldn't find it, figured out it was a new model, then put it up to news reporters. The receiving stolen goods is a misnomer, when the guy tried *everything possible* to the phone back to its original owner.

The phone was NOT stolen. It was lost.

There was NO intent to steal here.

There was NO intent to profit, merely report. The case for this, a criminal case where a man could be sentenced to jail, is nonexistent.
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Jay (profile), 11 Aug 2011 @ 8:56pm

Re: Re:
" He called the phone, couldn't find it, figured out it was a new model, then put it up to news reporters. The receiving stolen goods is a misnomer, when the guy tried *everything possible* to the phone back to its original owner."

He called about the phone to Apple, couldn't find its owner...

"when the guy tried everything possible to give the phone back to its original owner..."

Dang submit right next to preview!
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Ben (profile), 11 Aug 2011 @ 8:57pm

Jason Chen's computer equipment
Will he even get his equipment back? I've heard too many stories of people being released, but not the "evidence" seized during the arrest.

And even if they give the equipment back, if the government had my computers for a year, I'd want to re-image the machines just in case they left some "presents".
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Radjin, 11 Aug 2011 @ 9:04pm

You got to be kidding
He made no attempt to return the phone, if so he would have given it to the bar tender as lost and found. Once he found out what he had he made no attempt to contact Apple and return it. Then he and his buddy shopped it around, for profit I might add, and found a buyer for his now stolen goods. A buyer that isn't even worth reading I might add, but this helped to bring this blogger(not journalist) into the light for a bit. This was every bit a crime that most of us would have been thrown in jail for.
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TechDan (profile), 11 Aug 2011 @ 9:12pm

Re: You got to be kidding
For those of us who remember and witnessed the original drama, the guy who found it actually called Apple and told them he had the phone and that he wanted to return it. Apple then denied that such a prototype phone even existed and thus began the shit-storm that followed.
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Robert Freetard (profile), 11 Aug 2011 @ 10:10pm

Re: You got to be kidding
Well Radjin,

There goes any credibility you had.

Try actually knowing what you are talking about one in a while.
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That Anonymous Coward (profile), 11 Aug 2011 @ 11:50pm

What harm!? WHAT HARM?!

It was because of this coverage that Samsung was able to make the Galaxy S tablets and infringe on all of the awesome things, like rounded corners on icons, and compete with Apple!

Apple now has to get Samsung devices banned from the planet 1 lawsuit at a time.

THIS, THIS IS THE HARM!!!!!!!!1

for the sarcasm impaired.
/sarc
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Anonymous Coward, 11 Aug 2011 @ 11:59pm

Re: You got to be kidding
He made no attempt to return the phone...

Not true, fanboi.
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Anonymous Coward, 12 Aug 2011 @ 12:02am

They broke the law...
the DA just decided to be extra ice and give them a break this time.
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Anonymous Coward, 12 Aug 2011 @ 12:03am

They actually broke the law...
the DA just decided to be extra nice and let them off this time.
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Anonymous Coward, 12 Aug 2011 @ 12:24am

Yeah of course you leave the critical part out about him knowingly buying STOLEN goods. Of course with your pro-piracy preaching you think everyone is entitled to steal everything, and you have no respect for the creators and how they choose to reveal THEIR product. Of course if you ever produced anything worth a shit in your life you would understand.
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freak (profile), 12 Aug 2011 @ 12:32am

Re:
Stolen goods:
"OHMYGOD, where'd we leave that phone?! The bartender says he hasn't seen it! The police are out searching! OMG!"

Not-stolen goods:
"What? No, that's not our phone, stop trying to return it to us!"
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Anonymous Coward, 12 Aug 2011 @ 2:29am

Man, there sure are a lot of dumb trolls in this thread accusing them of stealing and stuff. I'd expect that after the first one got pounded with the facts, the others would've learned...
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freak (profile), 12 Aug 2011 @ 2:37am

Re:
I think the regulars are all having fun taking turns explaining it, though.
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That Anonymous Coward (profile), 12 Aug 2011 @ 2:42am

Re:
Reading... its fundamental but not a trolling requirement.

After everyone was screaming for felony convictions for having destroyed Apple, I find it interesting the are only filing misdemeanor charges.

Maybe the people who found it cut a deal with Apple to not reveal if you hold it like most people would, it would drop connection.
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John Doe, 12 Aug 2011 @ 4:10am

From my business law class...
In my business law class, a few too many years ago, we learned that there are two types of lost property. If lost in a place where the loser could backtrack and find it, then it belongs to the owner of the property it was found on. So in this case the bar owner. If it was lost in a place where it wouldn't reasonably be found, then it is finders keepers. At no point did we learn that it would be considered stolen. But hey, it involves Apple so the law says whatever Apple wants it to say.
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Bengie, 12 Aug 2011 @ 4:16am

Re: You got to be kidding
"but this helped to bring this blogger(not journalist)"

journalist: a person who keeps a journal, diary, or other record of daily events.

Wow, the definition of "journalist" sounds a lot lot blogging. You may want to learn the English language before posting.
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That Anonymous Coward (profile), 12 Aug 2011 @ 4:16am

Re: Jason Chen's computer equipment
And one needs to wonder if any copies were made for them to dig through at their leisure.

Would be a shame if any "insiders" at Apple happened to get outed and fired for having mentioned something to a reporter.
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Oliver, 12 Aug 2011 @ 4:42am

Re:
Not quite right... If someone drops their wallet on the street and there is no reasonable way to determine who's it is, then keeping the wallet does not constitute stealing property or retaining stolen property.

It is also not illegal to buy an iPhone that someone is selling. You might violate the EULA when you try to use the iPhone. It IS illegal to SELL a stolen phone.
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whisk3, 12 Aug 2011 @ 5:14am

from the link "charged with misappropriation of lost property and possession of stolen property"
Is this one charge or two? If it's two, how can they make the stolen property stick if it isn't considered stolen property?
If they can make it stick on Sage, why are they unable to make it stick on Gizmodo?
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Tom, 12 Aug 2011 @ 5:25am

Spin doctor
Nice twisting of the case. Yup, the DA realizes that Gizmodo didn't break the law in writing about the phone. He probably realized that some time before law school. The question at hand (and the presumed potential charges) was re receiving stolen property. The second is not a necessary prerequisite for the first.

Other news sources have stated the DA isn't willing to engage in a long battle (and spend taxpayer money) to fight a well-funded first-ammendment decoy to a case of purchasing stolen property.

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_18653245

Yeah, not filing charges was probably a good move; the DA's office likely has easier criminal cases with more direct impact on public good.

But Gizmodo are still #@$^&%.
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Anonymous Coward, 12 Aug 2011 @ 6:22am

Re: Spin doctor
So, Gizmodo commits a crime and we just let it go because there are "easier" cases to pursue?

Justice at work?
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freak (profile), 12 Aug 2011 @ 6:24am

Re: Spin doctor
I'm starting to wonder, are these apple fanboys? Nay, even those guys know how to read most times, and we're seeing pretty good grammar and at least passable command of the exclamation mark.

Given that their literacy is, at least, passable, why then are they unable to read the comments, and are conflating 'stolen goods' with 'lost goods'?

Could there be an agenda at work here?
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Anonymous Coward, 12 Aug 2011 @ 7:20am

Gizmodo seems to have avoided the problem by not holding onto the phone.
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ClarkeyBalboa (profile), 12 Aug 2011 @ 7:25am

Re:
If Apple wants to control the reveal of their product, then why was an Apple engineer bar hopping with a prototype? It's not Gizmodo's responsibility to sit on that story, and Apple got A LOT of great, free coverage of the iPhone4. Too bad they lumped in all the negative publicity for being vindictive.
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Chris Meadows (profile), 12 Aug 2011 @ 8:29am

The article I read suggested the DA's decision was a bit more pragmatic than realizing Gizmodo hadn't done anything illegal. The subtext I got, reading between the lines, was that they still thought Gizmodo had acted illegally in receiving stolen property, but Gizmodo was prepared to use a first-amendment freedom-of-the-press defense that could drag on into a lengthy, highly-publicized legal battle that would just end up Streisand-effecting them into greater publicity. Even if the DA's office eventually won, it would have been at too great a cost for any possible benefit.
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Jay (profile), 12 Aug 2011 @ 9:07am

Re:
"Yeah of course you leave the critical part out where Apple was notified about the phone but didn't want to pick it up"

FTFY
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Jay (profile), 12 Aug 2011 @ 9:09am

Re: Re: Spin doctor
Sure, look at California pursuing the vendetta against the Cisco "hack"
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Thomas (profile), 12 Aug 2011 @ 11:25am

It took them a year..
cause they were desperately trying to find something, anything, to charge them with.
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Anonymous Coward, 12 Aug 2011 @ 12:02pm

Re:
Man, there sure are a lot of dumb trolls in this thread accusing them of stealing and stuff. I'd expect that after the first one got pounded with the facts, the others would've learned...

True fan boys never learn.
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Anonymous Coward, 12 Aug 2011 @ 12:09pm

Re:
If they can make it stick on Sage, why are they unable to make it stick on Gizmodo?

M-O-N-E-Y
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Anonymous Coward, 12 Aug 2011 @ 12:15pm

Re:
Even if the DA's office eventually won, it would have been at too great a cost for any possible benefit.

Exactly, that's just how the legal system works. If you've got the money, you can get away with murder. Meanwhile, prosecutors just love to pick on the poor and the defenseless.
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Gizmodo, 10 Jan 2012 @ 7:33am

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