Romney, Santorum & Gingrich Sued For Patent Infringement Over Facebook Usage... Along With Millions Of FB Users

from the wow dept

Tue, Feb 28th 2012 11:19am — Mike Masnick

I'm kind of wondering if Hollywood-based patent attorney and patent holder Frank Weyer is trying to turn the Republican presidential field anti-patent. Weyer, via his company EVERYMD, holds US Patent 7,644,122 concerning internet groups, which the USPTO granted in January of 2010 (but which goes back to a patent application filed in 1999, and then a continuation patent built off of that). To suggest the patent is broad is to state the extremely obvious. But, more or less, EVERYMD appears to be claiming that Facebook business accounts that offer home pages for members of a group (that also allow the ability to send messages/comments) infringes on the patent.

To make things even more insane, EVERYMD is suing Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich as the three named defendants, and then every other Facebook business account holder as a (as yet unnamed) Doe account. Suing the three Republican Presidential candidates is clearly a publicity gambit here -- most likely an attempt to get Facebook itself to pay up. As the lawsuit makes clear, EVERYMD first went after Facebook, offering to sell it the patent. Facebook apparently wasn't interested -- and, instead, went to the USPTO requesting that it re-examine the patent. That re-exam process is not going well for EVERYMD. The USPTO issued a final rejection on all of the claims -- but EVERYMD is appealing.

It seems kind of silly to then go after Facebook's users -- and specifically three presidential candidates -- except as an attempt to try to embarrass Facebook into buying or licensing the patent before the USPTO kills it entirely. Or as an attempt to show these presidential candidates just how screwed up the patent system is today, though that seems unlikely. As Patently-O notes, Weyer has some history in using patents to go after companies for what seem like basic and obvious features.

To make this even more ridiculous, EVERYMD also claims that, back in January 2011, it opened up a "licensing program" through which anyone could buy a license to the patent at the "reduced price" of $500 per account, but no one took them up on this offer, which is no longer available. What a shock. Some company that no one has heard of suddenly puts up a page asking for $500 so you can keep running your Facebook page? Who would actually fork over money in such a situation? Even if this is not Weyer's intention, maybe this will actually wake up at least some of these Presidential candidates to how the patent system has strayed far from its intended purpose.

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Filed Under: facebook pages, frank weyer, mitt romney, newt gingrich, patents, rick santorum
Companies: everymd, facebook

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:Lobo Santo (profile), 28 Feb 2012 @ 11:30am

A head in the Polls
"Or as an attempt to show these presidential candidates just how screwed up the patent system is today, though that seems unlikely."
I'm voting for this one, it has the best potential outcome, I believe...
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Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 11:30am

Wishful thinking...
Even if this is not Weyer's intention, maybe this will actually wake up at least some of these Presidential candidates to how the patent system has strayed far from its intended purpose.

I highly doubt that. The presidential candidates probably won't bat an eye to this, especially if EVERYMD is fighting a losing battle. This'll probably just be pushed under the rug and no one will hear of it again...
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Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 11:33am

What the fuck is going on here.......why is there such a fucking big interest in the internet all of a sudden?

Assholes of an old era, trying to turn the internet into something that goes against its origins........limiting, and moulding to suit their needs..........fuck em, they dont give a shit, why should we?
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- Cabal (profile), 28 Feb 2012 @ 1:00pm
  
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  For the same reason prisoners pay attention to the moods of the guards: If you don't, the consequences can be painful.
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Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 11:41am

This patent doesn't even pass the laugh test
But that raises a question: why didn't someone at the USPTO turn this down, citing prior art, in 5 minutes and be done with it?
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- Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 11:45am
  
  Re: This patent doesn't even pass the laugh test
  Cite Prior art: 5 minutes
  Rubber stamp and say you did the job: 0.5 minutes.
  
  Good gig if you can get it.
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  - Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 12:15pm
    
    Re: Re: This patent doesn't even pass the laugh test
    Plus, accepting a patent request is less likely to lead to an appeal from the requester, whereas denying one is more likely to force the USPTO through a time consuming and expensive appellate process. Better to accept it and let those on the receiving end of a patent suit fight the courts.
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- Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 1:45pm
  
  Re: This patent doesn't even pass the laugh test
  Maybe because the USPTO is automated now?
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- Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 5:11pm
  
  Re: This patent doesn't even pass the laugh test
  Because the USPTO is motivated to approve every patent, even the most ridiculous ones. It is all about making ways for the patent bar to clock up billable hours. The patent bar is where examiners go, once they get kicked out of the USPTO for being too old. Any examiner, who does not approve just about everything, gets into serious trouble with their bosses at the USPTO. That is why nearly every patent is a junk patent. The participants in the patent system do not wish to reform it, expecting otherwise is unrealistic. The answer is abolition, which will have to happen in the teeth of the most determined opposition from the patent bar.
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Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 11:43am

The fact that anyone could and DID do this for years before the patent was even granted shows just how bogus it is.
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- Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 7:41pm
  
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  The relevant date is when the original application was filed.
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Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 11:51am

The USPTO issued a final rejection on all of the claims -- but EVERYMD is appealing.

I love how, in USPTO-world, "final" isn't.
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- Trails (profile), 28 Feb 2012 @ 12:22pm
  
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  They didn't call "no backsies"
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- Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 7:44pm
  
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  It is a legal proceeding, so of course appeals are available. Would you rather we simply forego the entire concept of appeals?
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Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 11:57am

There should be some sort of hefty fine system for waste of court time (or is there?)
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- Torg (profile), 28 Feb 2012 @ 12:07pm
  
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  Well, court costs are apparently fairly pricey. When EVERYMD loses this case that'll at least be money out the window. If Facebook is feeling vindictive they should be able to waste court time right back and bury them under legal fees. But no, there's no official punishment for this unless you think you can get contempt of court to stick.
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kraabeasa (profile), 28 Feb 2012 @ 12:06pm

Another attorney win
This guy's attorney must love him. He's laughing all the way to the bank.
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Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 12:12pm

'maybe this will actually wake up at least some of these Presidential candidates to how the patent system has strayed far from its intended purpose.'

got no chance. will take more than a little thing like this to bring the problems home!
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Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 12:26pm

Tie a big ol ribbon
Well now 'Susan G. Komen for the Cure' can't donate to any of them!
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- PRMan, 28 Feb 2012 @ 12:42pm
  
  Re: Tie a big ol ribbon
  Well, since they're friends with Planned Parenthood, it's not likely they were supporting Republican candidates in the first place...
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  - letherial (profile), 28 Feb 2012 @ 3:46pm
    
    Re: Re: Tie a big ol ribbon
    I didn't realize that support for planned parent hood automatically puts yourself against the republican party. Is this some law?
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    - Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 5:22pm
      
      Re: Re: Re: Tie a big ol ribbon
      The Republican party has been captured by the religious right, who are anti-abortion. Planned parenthood supports a woman's right to choose, so they are out.
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      - Niall (profile), 29 Feb 2012 @ 2:07am
        
        Re: Re: Re: Re: Tie a big ol ribbon
        Planned Parenthood supports a woman's right not to get pregnant or infected, and her right not to be a baby-bearing chattel. That sets them right in the Rethuglican targets.
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Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 12:41pm

Once again, they got you talking about it. Right or wrong, if they are attention whoring you have pretty much fed them their lunch.
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Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 12:55pm

"maybe this will actually wake up at least some of these Presidential candidates to how the patent system has strayed far from its intended purpose."

Are you DENSE? They could give a furry rat's behind.
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Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 2:53pm

WHY WASNT DR. PAUL INCLUDED IN THE LAWSUIT? IS IT CAUSE HE ISNT A COMPLETE JERK?
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Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 4:16pm

Talk about ambulance chasing lawyers.
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Jacob Blaustein, 28 Feb 2012 @ 4:50pm

New topic for debates.
I can see the presidential canidates shocked that they are being sued, then used it as a platform saying that patents are going too far. What was this company thinking?
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G Thompson (profile), 28 Feb 2012 @ 7:06pm

Wow I was doing and creating this sort of interface way back in the 1980s with MultiUser BBS's. Then again with MUDs then with chatsites like Bianca's (1994), Palace (1996), and "The Well" (1991).

Then we had user owned group spaces like Geocities.

And these are just some prior art of this amazing and unique patent that Weyer is yabbering over.

The US Patent system is basically pointless nowadays and the rest of the world just laughs at it
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Keroberos (profile), 28 Feb 2012 @ 7:30pm

Looks like their suing now hoping to get some settlements before the patent is invalidated.
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Anonymous Coward, 28 Feb 2012 @ 7:38pm

"As Patently-O notes, Weyer has some history in using patents to go after companies for what seem like basic and obvious features."

The above quote gives me the impression that all of it is attributable to P-O. Importantly, DC has not expressed any opinion concerning the validity of this and the other patents held by Mr. Weyer.
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Ganja Man, 23 Jul 2013 @ 8:36am

Belated update
EVERYMD has apparently lost its appeal to the USPTO on this patent. The USPTO recently upheld the rejection of all claims of this patent (the patent was challenged by Facebook back in 2010 by seeking reexamination). Unclear if EVERYMD will seek to further appeal the decision or not.
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