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HBO Hooks Up Nordic Cord Cutters; Offers Standalone Streaming Service

from the start-chopping dept

Tue, Sep 4th 2012 7:12am — Tim Cushing

HBO has been fighting cord-cutters in the US for the past several years, refusing to offer a standalone product in any form. Its mobile offering, HBO Go, requires purchasing a subscription to HBO, and even with all the cords still connected and money laid out on the table, you're still limited to certain devices. This insistence on keeping subscribers attached to cable companies they'd rather be living without has seen HBO consistently topping the "Most Pirated" charts. Obviously, HBO would prefer "Most Subscribed," but why buy the milk when you can get whole cow for free, minus the cableco remora?

In a move sure to please certain Europeans, HBO is now offering a completely cord-free option.

The service, named HBO Nordic AB, will allow customers in Sweden, Norway, Finland, and Denmark to stream subtitled versions of the same content available in the US. Original series like Game of Thrones and Boardwalk Empire, as well as movies that are featured by the channel, will be streamable at HBONordic.com.

The service is cheap ($6-12.50/month) and gives Nordic viewers a fairly good selection of the channel's offerings. As Ars Technica points out, this move may be a reaction to Netflix's announcement that it would be offering its services in the same region. No doubt HBO would be happier placing further down the "Most Pirated" charts and Netflix has been proven to be one of the better "pirate killers." Offering a reasonably priced streaming option with all normally-attached strings detached is a good start.

In addition to cordless service, HBO will also be shredding its usual timetable. Currently, weeks or months pass between original airdates and the programs' appearance in countries like Norway and Sweden. With HBO Nordic AB, programs will be available to stream within a few hours of the original airtime.

Providing a desirable service at a good price and with a minimum of windowed "scarcity" is one of the only ways to put a dent in filesharing. Hopefully, HBO recognizes this and considers expanding this service into other countries. Here in the US, unfortunately, the symbiotic relationship between the movie studios, cable companies and premium offerings like HBO is too far ingrown to imagine this has even the slimmest chance in hell of becoming a reality. But, if it knocks HBO off the "Sharing Is Caring" lists, who knows? Maybe everyone involved (or at least, two-thirds) will see the potential, rather than morosely counting the "potential" losses. I can't see an offering like this making US cable companies happy, but really, does anyone care if Time Warner, Comcast, Cox, etc. find themselves on the business end of "The Shaft" for a change?

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fogbugzd (profile), 4 Sep 2012 @ 7:20am

How long before pro sports decide they can do a better job of retaining fans by cutting the cord?
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Sep 2012 @ 7:22am

Ha Ha, good article Tim, but April fools was months ago. Stop yanking our chain.
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Daiz (profile), 4 Sep 2012 @ 7:26am

As a Finn, I will most likely check their service out, though mostly to see how it fares against the less legal methods in terms of convenience, quality and so on. There are many small things that could go wrong and ultimately make using the service more annoying than what it's worth, but all in all, I have to congratulate them for doing something that could be actually dubbed progressive in the digital market for video.

I just wish that beyond all these monthly subscriber streaming plans that everyone seems to be so fond of, we could also purchase DRM-free downloads for individual shows. They could do this in the same service, and make it so that any individually purchased content could then be streamed or downloaded freely anytime the user wants on whatever device, even if they don't have an active catalog streaming subscription. Unfortunately, actual downloads seem to be a rarity in the digital market for video, and the few options that exist are limited to a single country and laced with layers of DRM. In that sense, the legal options still have a lot of catch-up to do in comparison to the illegal alternatives.
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Sep 2012 @ 7:26am

" With HBO Nordic AB, programs will be available to stream within a few hours of the original airtime."

This isn't exactly as good as you think, considering many of these areas may be on up to a 1 year delay compared to the US network release dates.

Further, the price at 10 Euros isn't really an improvement over the cable or dish prices generally charged. Considering they are taking out all of the middle men cable companies and such, it seems like they are just going to rake in more money. How does this price actually compare to the current cable TV market in these areas?
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Sep 2012 @ 7:28am

Well I don't have any TV service in my home however if this was available here in the USA I would buy it for sure!

I love HBO but I don't like having to buy all the extra channels I'll never watch in the first place.

Still gj to HBO they're starting to get it! FINALLY
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Sep 2012 @ 7:37am

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Hmm... probably never. They like holding footage of their games ransom too much, with the threat of not airing the game if the stadium's aren't sold out.
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Sep 2012 @ 7:39am

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"" With HBO Nordic AB, programs will be available to stream within a few hours of the original airtime."

This isn't exactly as good as you think, considering many of these areas may be on up to a 1 year delay compared to the US network release dates. "
Based on the previous sentence, it sounds like it's within a few hours of the US airtime, not the original nordic airtime.
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Sep 2012 @ 7:44am

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Well, I don't know about the countries in question, but one of the most basic cable subscriptions in my country (from a company which shall remain unnamed), in which, funnily enough, you only get the 4 channels that you already get freely over the air, costs �9.99/month. You also get a phone line with a decent phone plan, so it is not a total loss.

The full channel grid (111 channels) costs around �33/month. Something in the middle (30-some channels) costs around �25/month.

All this, without Internet access and no access to premium channels. If you take a mid-level package that includes 100mbps internet+phone+all channels, you are looking at around �50/month. It can reach almost �100/month depending on the internet connection speed and if you want the "premium" channels or not.
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Ninja (profile), 4 Sep 2012 @ 7:45am

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This isn't exactly as good as you think, considering many of these areas may be on up to a 1 year delay compared to the US network release dates.

From a few years to a few hours. Yeah, definitely an involution. /sarc

Further, the price at 10 Euros isn't really an improvement over the cable or dish prices generally charged.

If you only want select channels but you are obliged to shell out more Euros because you are forced to buy packages of channels (and buying sinlge ones is uber expensive) then maybe 10 euros isn't that much. In my case it would be a HUGE improvement in price even if I paid another 10 euros for Netflix. I'm in Brazil and it would be cheaper for me to pay for those services in euros than to keep my cable subscription that has a lot of garbage and fixed times (ie: I can't watch whenever I actually have time.
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Josef Anvil (profile), 4 Sep 2012 @ 7:46am

but but but....
HBO is stepping over Kroner to pick up �re.
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Sophie, 4 Sep 2012 @ 7:46am

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HBO Nordics promises shows in the Scandinavia within 24 h after the US, but yes, previously it has been up to 1 year. Extremely frustrating, and hence the high streaming/downloading.

Regarding pricing. At least in Norway you buy sets of channels where a basic set is around $50-60/month, however some channels offers web based showing for approx $5/month. Not nearly as good shows as HBO though. For those kind of shows you will have to buy the set of channels and wait a month or two (or three) before you can watch the newest episode.

Hope that cleared up some things for ya.
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PRMan, 4 Sep 2012 @ 7:49am

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As long as Comcast owns the Flyers, the NHL will ALWAYS require a cable/satellite subscription.
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Ed C., 4 Sep 2012 @ 8:02am

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The all-in-one cable bundles in my corner of the US cost about the same (given the current exchange rate), except I'd be lucky to even get 10mbps. Right now, I pay ~$30/mo (~�23.85) to get 10mbps. For what it's worth, at least I actually get 10mbps.
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PaulT (profile), 4 Sep 2012 @ 8:15am

Nice, I'll happily pay that as well, once they let me of course! If the Swedes decide to support this in the way they did services like Spotify (which I paid for as soon as it expanded here from Sweden), things look positive. Hopefully it will go well and they don't decide to start restricting content in ridiculous ways. We will see, I suppose.
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Sep 2012 @ 8:25am

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Good point.

Do they still own the Sixers too?
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Atkray (profile), 4 Sep 2012 @ 8:44am

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I would expect to see a rise in proxy services in the countries where this is available just to satisfy people like yourself, possible including a "local address" so you can subscribe.

Ironic having to use a proxy to access HBO in Europe because you cannot get it in the USA.
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The eejit (profile), 4 Sep 2012 @ 8:51am

Still not available for non-Sky customers in the UK. Still no sub service in the UK standalone. Still can't give HBO money.
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Sep 2012 @ 9:41am

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It is basically the same in Denmark. Except that 100 mbps is very underdeveloped since the owners of copper cable are getting the money for rolling out real cables... Copper has a capacity of up to 12/2 mbps, a comparably priced fiber connection is 15/15 mbps and is far cheaper in the long term for all parties. The cost of putting the cables in the ground and getting permission to do it, however, is a nightmare.
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Jikap (profile), 4 Sep 2012 @ 10:29am

Oh wow...
I did not expect this to ever happen anywhere, let alone in my country.

Now I'm almost gonna have to subscribe on principle just to show them that they're doing something right for once.
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Christoph Wagner (profile), 4 Sep 2012 @ 11:03am

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Maybe it's not an improvement over the cable and dish prices. But I'd still buy it (If I could. Sadly as a German, I can't).

Why? Because I can't get those networks anyway. I have absolutely no legal way to get that content in a timely fashion. I'd need to wait for the DVD release (or for it to be on iTunes, but I can see nothing convincing me to create an Apple account).
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Sep 2012 @ 11:19am

Re: Oh wow...
Exactly what I thought when I read this. Finally I can "pay" for all those episodes of The Wire and Game of Thrones and other HBO shows I've been torrenting. I seriously doubt it will be an even remotely better service than downloading a 720p rip which I can conveniently put in my Plex, but at least this way I can pay the content creators (?) SOMEHOW...
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Chevylin, 21 Apr 2015 @ 7:10pm

Great article Tim. For those who can access HBO Nordic in their county like me, you can use UnoTelly or similar services to get around the block.
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