White House Preparing Executive Order As A Stand-In For CISPA
from the doing-something dept
This isn't a huge surprise -- and last month we even discussed the possibility, but it sounds as though the White House has decided that, with the failure of Congress to pass a comprehensive cybersecurity bill (CISPA passed in the House, but the rather different Cybersecurity Act failed in the Senate), it is going to issue some sort of executive order to deal with "cybersecurity issues."Late last week there was an awful lot of speculation over what would be, with some people arguing that it will do too much... and others arguing that it will do too little. However, late Friday, Jason Miller from Federal News Radio claimed to have seen a draft copy, and while he did not share the full copy, he did do a pretty thorough breakdown of what was in it. It sounds pretty similar to the Lieberman/Collins Cybersecurity Act -- the one that failed to gain Senate approval. The parts that concerned us the most in the bill -- concerning information sharing without real privacy protections -- appear to be in this executive order, and in some ways may be worse. While the President cannot grant liability protections for companies who share info with the government (a major concern we had), it sounds like this executive order will put tremendous pressure on companies to share info -- noting that it will begin a sort of "name and shame" program for companies who fail to take part. That seems like a recipe for a privacy disaster.
The thing that I'm still waiting for is for someone (anyone?!) to lay out exactly where the problems are with current regulations in the area. We keep hearing that there's a real risk (though the only demonstration of that seems to be inflated, hyperbolic stories), and that without information sharing, the risk is much greater. But what has not been shown by anyone, in either Congress or the administration, is why the necessary sharing can't happen under existing laws today. They just keep saying it can't but refuse to point to the specific things that are causing those problems today. That's what makes me most nervous about all of this. When those in power can't fully articulate the problem, it seems reasonable to be quite worried about the solution. It makes it way too easy for that "solution" to be much too broad and cause all sorts of collateral damage.
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The First Word
“And they would all be correct.
As with most bills in the last decade it will do too much to impede the freedoms and liberties of the general population, but will do next to nothing to actually keep that population safer (though it may help to tighten the illusion - ignore the man behind that curtain - that it does so).
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And they would all be correct.
As with most bills in the last decade it will do too much to impede the freedoms and liberties of the general population, but will do next to nothing to actually keep that population safer (though it may help to tighten the illusion - ignore the man behind that curtain - that it does so).
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I would much rather the latter over the former because an update of existing policy is far better that unilateral creation of a new one which is conflicting or redundant.
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Shame or honor?
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Just keep repeating that. Seems to work for elected officials.
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As you should be worried.
And I would probably put collateral damage in quote marks to because you can more than likely bet that broadness you speak of is exactly what the ones pushing for this want. Collateral damage imples that said damage is unintentional. I refuse to believe that the damage caused by such broadness would be anything but intentional.
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(see how democracy really works)
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You hit the nail right on the head.
What has me concerned is that it really is freaky how much the tactics of the MPAA et al, and Big Government parallel each other.
They both push for new rules, regulations, and laws that ultimately do nothing to curb the real or perceived problem but instead do the most harm to those that are supposed to be helped by them.
It makes you really wonder how many of the people in government have been bought or have been 'educated' by the people in the IP industries.
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EO totals by President:
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php
First price to the first person who can see the pattern in the totals.
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Time to lose more Rights.And when you are finally backed up against the wall will you fight back for Freedom ?
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The closest analogy I can think of is to Sharia law and fatwas, which are religious edicts from the Islamic Council.
So yes, this is NOT a good thing in this case, but it can be a useful tool used wisely.
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EOs have been around since the country started but were seldom used until dubya. Now both dubya and Obama have abused the process - though for different reasons. Dubya did it because he was an impatient little shit. Obama is doing it because Congress refuses to vote on ANYTHING AT ALL until after the election (and probably afterwards, too.)
Don't get me wrong, I'm not really an Obama fan. I'm voting for him just because he's better than Romney, but I still want a genuine liberal to run for President.
But yeah, that's why. It does seem to break the whole checks-and-balances system, except that it's really just a response to a broken check that Congress shouldn't have. Once we outlaw the fillabuster and require that Congress vote on everything quickly, I'm all for outlawing EOs too.
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so that you can look at the reality of how many EOs were issued by which President before you claim someone abused it.
Also remember the Democrats control the Senate and had control of the House for the first 2 years (which is why we have the massive extension of government control on your life and health called Obamacare). Obama can't get the Senate to pass anything now. Seems like even his own party is scared to follow him.
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No matter what, if either a Republican or Democrat is president, nothing is going change for the better. Both sides will do the same thing.
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Bonus for them, they also get paid to kill it.
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I just thought he fired people and took bonuses for doing so.
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Then, as one voice of the public, ill say........let me think about it
But we dont count do we
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IP Protection
I can't imaging MPAA boss Chris Dodd whould, through his ears and mouth in the White House Joe Biden, pass up such a chance.
"The final subsection would call for a report within 120 days discussing possible incentives such as liability protection,"
OK, that's interesting. Whose liability will be "protected" and what remedies will be available to victims?
"Yeah we got hacked but we got this Gov certificate of approval so we're not liable, kthxbye!"
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IP Protection
I can't imaging MPAA boss Chris Dodd whould, through his ears and mouth in the White House Joe Biden, pass up such a chance.
"The final subsection would call for a report within 120 days discussing possible incentives such as liability protection,"
OK, that's interesting. Whose liability will be "protected" and what remedies will be available to victims?
"Yeah we got hacked but we got this Gov certificate of approval so we're not liable, kthxbye!"
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> from the look of it, its absolutely asinine
> and resembles the action of a dictator.
> some bullshit method where the president can
> bypass the checks and balances of the three
> branch system.
Apparently this president believes that Congress is only a formality in the law-making process. If Obama wants a law passed and Congress declines to cooperate, he believes he can then just do what he wants anyway via an executive order.
Previous presidents have flirted with assuming this kind of despotic authority for themselves, but Obama has really embraced it and turned it into an art form.
Obama's favorite mantra when he speaks to his adoring faithful is, "We can't wait." That's his excuse for ignoring the law of the land. When the Legislative Branch has the good sense to stop one of his stupid ideas, like this cybersecurity bill, he does not like it so instead of abiding by the Constitution, he simply imposes his will by fiat.
Amnesty for illegals, cybersecurity, repeal of the welfare work requirement-- all executive orders that run contrary to valid laws passed by Congress. Yet he just does it anyway. In response to complaints about this kind of authoritarian and unconstitutional process, in 2009 simply announced, "I won the election."
That's it in a nutshell. "I won, therefore I can do what I want."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRtFmQgaRD0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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http://youtu.be/HmaE2Aez_XY
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Mitt romney supporter/s "confiscating" ron paul signs at the RNC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrbQnjE6-34
NSA
http://youtu.be/r9-3K3rkPRE
RNC's stance on things like executive order
http://youtu.be/6G5bdjiAaGE
Mitt the twits version of winning a states delegates
http://youtu.be/5Cw5crSkrhA
Video compilation of votes cast for Ron Paul at the RNC
http://youtu.be/jYKa6JlzDMw
Ron Paul
Congressman Ron pauls views over the years
http://youtu.be/9vFngTdTCwU
The military supports Ron Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=xPpliINn6vM
Ron paul ignored by mainstream media MSM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B0QPcoTZg8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Ron Paul Interviewed for Local ABC Affiliate 8/16/11
http://youtu.be/sw4hA9wLWA4
Humour with a dash of truth
Daily show ron paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B0QPcoTZg8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Vermin supreme
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4d_FvgQ1csE
A vote for the lesser of two evils is still evil
Ron Paul Grassroots Energyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRtFmQgaRD0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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How's that whole scorched earth thing of yours working out for you?
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Seems simple. Why can't we get a candidate that is this? WHY?!?!
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The problem?
The problem that anyone in the government can see is that they don't totally control the entire internet for their own purposes.
Totally unacceptable to those who want to control everything and everyone in cyberspace.
Freedom ain't free, you know. Gotta pay a price for it, one way or another.
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Moral of all don't go and point the finger with out knowing the facts. And Yes I will be voting for Romney, because I work for my money and everything I have. I'd rather not have the Gov take it away to give to someone because they cry life is too hard. Kicks me in the balls everyone I hear someone complain about their "rights" being taken away but they support the people who are taking them away...
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