A Sad Statement: The Best Way To Deal With Patent Threats Is To Be Less Open
from the bad-for-innovation dept
Colleen Chien and Stefani Shanberg have a post over at TechCrunch that provides ten suggestions for how startups can and should deal with patent threats from trolls these days, which is unfortunately depressing. It's not because the ideas aren't good -- they're exactly what most startups probably should know. But the last item really bugs me:10. Advice For All Times: Don’t Be An Easy TargetThis isn't a surprise. Of course, we've highlighted how companies often get hit up by patent trolls right after they make news. But what this is really saying is "don't be open." And while that may be a good strategy for a company seeking to avoid patent lawsuits, it's a horrible strategy for increasing innovation. Research into innovation and economic growth have shown time and time again that what helps create that kind of innovation is more openness and more sharing. It's the information sharing that made Silicon Valley into Silicon Valley.
Trolls pick their targets by studying websites, looking at product specs, and trying to make out a case that you need their patent. Don’t make it easy for them. Require registration before granting access to whitepapers, detailed documents, or video tutorials that delve into the behind-the-scenes details. Think twice about being on customer lists or advertising the ins and outs of your business, the products you use, etc., unless there’s a good business reason for doing so. Often it is the companies that advertise most successfully that are the most frequent targets of troll demands — troll threats should not drive business decisions, but don’t be surprised when your successful marketing campaign is followed by an onslaught of troll letters.
What's stunning -- and depressing -- is that the patent system is supposed to be the thing that encourages innovation. And yet, because it's become totally dysfunctional, one of the recommendations for how to avoid running afoul of it now... is to do the exact thing that holds back and limits innovation. What a shame.
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Wrong, wrong, wrong
You want best advice to avoid patent threats? Number one best advice: Startup somewhere else. Stay out of USA.
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World production is about $60 trillion, last I checked. US economy is about $15 of that or so.
One-quarter of the world economy. One-hundred percent chance of getting sued into oblivion—as soon as you show enough profit for the vultures to swoop down. Do the math.
From a comment on a related story over at Ars...
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BTW, I think your math might be off regarding that 100% chance.
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Every. Single. Successful. Company. Is. Frivolously. Sued.
Every single one. The only difference is some have the luck or resources to win in court or simply cut a cheque.
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I just want to get all the retractions out of the way before asking you to back it up.
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Down the Drain or in Reality Down a Lawyer's Pockets and some A-Hole Patent Troll or some other Company buying A-Hole Lame Nonsense Patent.
There must be some cool Nations where you can start up a decent Company, not be sued, live in nice climate, and feel welcomed and wanted.
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I just have to say, those who want a piece of the pie have led to this problem. Every time an argument about patents and monopolies comes up, you have usually only two extremes. Those who want it and those who find it morally bankrupt. The ones who want to use it sometimes admit they want what so few of these bratz have managed gain.
Point being copyright and patents to me, have been made to overtime do just these things they are doing. It was just a matter of time, much like where the USA is trying to head towards now. ohhh snap.
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It's JUST as laughable that you're doing exactly as I claimed your types do. Avoiding the point, all the while as transparent as can be. Just admit you want to be a circle jerking fat cat and using rare sentence structure to hide you sin.
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Whether that's a sad state of affairs is up for debate. If you assume that patent infringement is not a bad thing, then it's a sad state of affairs. If you assume that patent infringement is a bad thing, then it's just like any other bad thing you shouldn't put out in the open for everyone to see.
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Out of the hundreds of thousands patents out there, several will apply to your service. And you will always miss some, even if you do a patent search. What is more, some of them will be issued and published only after you are already making use of them.
Even using only technology from more than 20 years ago will not save you, since new patents are sometimes issued on old technology.
Patent infringement is a fact. Being less open only makes it harder to find.
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Lol. Maybe so. But that doesn't help the guy who is trying to figure out whether you infringe his specific patents.
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There is a point where the troll patent infringement suits are so numerous compared to the cases the system was designed to protect against that the net impact of the patent system is negative.
At that point it provides more value to society to ditch the patent system entirely than keeping it.
In my opinion, that point was reached some time ago.
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First rule of patents
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"Willful blindness" can get you a willful infringement judgment as well, so it's really going to depend on your situation whether a freedom to operate opinion or some other search makes sense.
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A finding of willful infringement requires a court case and judgment, regardless of whether it's based on knowledge or willful blindness.
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I've already said this on Techdirt before, a long time ago. It's obvious.
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There you go.
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Or...
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Name it "Mafia-Connected Murderers LLC"?
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Anyone trying to sue a company like that would quickly find their name and the name of the firm they are from so toxic that no-one would ever be willing to hire them again.
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If they can cause the damage on their own on the other hand, then they really don't care, and have no reason to care, how slimy they look.
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toxifying doesn't work
Patent trolls are hired by no one. They don't care about having a good name. They are all essentially an empty office in Marshall, TX, a lawyer, and a guy making money off other peoples' life's work.
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...supposed to be the thing that encourages innovation...
While the patent (and copyright) system might have perhaps been meant to encourage innovation some 200+ years ago (and I'm not really sure it was its real motivation even back then), it hasn't been used even remotely in that way for, like, over a century? So please, get back to present.
Trolling RULEZ! Innovation SUCKS!
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Great Advice for the Inventor
Infringement is tallied backward 6 years so inventors don't want to find start-ups they want to find their inventions being used by successful maturing companies.
Hiding the actual facts of your product increases the damages available to the inventor.
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Thinking Differently
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In my experience it is rare and almost never a large company.
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