EFF Gets Secret Interpretation Of FISA Spying Law... And It's Almost Entirely Redacted
from the but-not-completely dept
We've talked about the absolute ridiculousness of having a secret interpretation of a US law on surveillance such that the law actually means something different than what most people (including the politicians voting on it) think it means -- and yet the secret law remains in place for entirely secret reasons. The EFF, as part of an ongoing dispute over all of this, had submitted a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request concerning some testimony on that secret interpretation, and it got back a "relevant" document... which as almost entirely redacted. Here's a sample page.The Government has provided copies of the opinions and the filings by the Government to this Committee, and the Government will continue to inform the Committee about developments in this manner.It's ridiculous to continue arguing -- as Senator Dianne Feinstein has done repeatedly -- that there is no secret law here. She's being deliberately misleading, confusing "the law" with "the legislation." The legislation is the text as written by the legislature, but "the law" includes specific rulings by courts on the legislation. The legislation may be public, but the law is not when the rather important interpretations of the legislation remain completely redacted.
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Ignorance of the law is no excuse
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A Big Fuck You to the US Government !
You Guys Truly Eat Dog Shit !!!
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Secret laws
I'm pretty sure this is a literal example of doublethink.
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Re: Police state
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Come on - US government - you can do better than be beaten by the UK surely
(Hang on a minute - there could be secrets like that - we just don't know about them...)
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Sad, really.
Secret Laws.
Short of Gulags and Death Camps, I cannot think of a more compelling example trait that transitions a Government from "By the People, for the People" to an outright Tyranny.
Think about what this means for our futures, and the futures of our children.
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Unless you can elect politicians for the committee enforcing the law, the law basically has no meaning. Even a politically appointed committee of politicians is a problematic construction unless there is some kind of reports available for the public and that will never happen!
Not even going to mention the insanity of letting politicians carry highly classified information. If you do, you are devaluing the information or corrupting the politician to not reason freely and thus removing even more credibility of the politicians, if they had any to begin with!
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Got to love Kardasian law, assumed guilty till proven to be a martyr
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How in the fuck can you know if you might be breaking the law if it's a goddamn secret?
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the reach of the law
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I'm thoroughly convinced that this government is evil.
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