Angry Judge Tells Prenda To Stop Falsifying Alan Cooper's Signature; Calls It Fraud
from the another-failure dept
Looks like Prenda continues to have problems in court. In the lawsuit in Minnesota that Alan Cooper brought against Prenda and John Steele for fraudulent use of his name, it appears that Judge Ann Alton made fairly quick work of getting the whole thing off of her docket. Someone going by the twitter handle "J.P. Baggins" was in attendance, and says that the judge ordered Prenda to stop using Alan Cooper's name and brought the case to a close. There won't be any damages awarded, but it seems clear that the judge was not at all happy with Prenda. She referred to Paul Hansmeier, appearing for Prenda Law, as acting in a way that is "not appropriate for an attorney" while also claiming that what they had done was "fraud, pure and simple." She also told him that she believed him "to be in violation of a whole lot of rules" and she'll be reporting him to the lawyer's board (just one more to pile on, I guess).Another person in the courtroom, Matthew Sparby noted that the judge was a bit confused at the beginning, apparently misreading Judge Otis Wright's infamous order to also implicate Cooper as well, and while that was eventually cleared up by Cooper's lawyer, Paul Godfread, Sparby thinks that may be why no damages were awarded.
She apparently also closed by telling Hansmeier to "never EVER send" fraudulent letters "EVER again" and noted that she was "offended this case is here" before abruptly ending the whole thing. Seems like another bad day for Prenda.
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Filed Under: alan cooper, ann alton, falsified signature, john steele, minnesota, paul duffy, paul godfread, paul hansmeier
Companies: af holdings, ingenuity 13, prenda, prenda law
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They're just a bunch of pirates.
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I bring popcorn
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Cooper vs Steele
And just because a judge told them not to EVER send out fraudulent letters again, Hansmeier will laugh at it and say, "Fraudulent according to whom?"
Wright's Denial of the Sanctions Stay in CACD helped a little, but not much.
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After they stole Cooper's identity, used it in copyright transfers in what was found by a court to be fraudulent activity, and the defamation suits to shut up Mr. Cooper and his lawyer... she told them no dessert and go to your room.
Anyone still wonder why Pretenda was able to operate for so long (and is still running even with the finding of facts by Judge Wright?).
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Did they even have to pay for his lawyer fees?
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That's something for a different venue, such as criminal court and disbarment proceedings.
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I'm a resident of the UK, though, so I'm perhaps misunderstanding some of the finer points of US law (as I also mistake the laws of my own country, being not-a-lawyer, and such).
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That said I do agree with you, they were insanely lucky this time around, and they really should have been hit much harder than this for what they were being accused of doing.
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While I am amazed that no damages were awarded, I doubt this is the end of the Alan Cooper case, I believe that Cooper will launch an appeal to clear his name and to have the court find that his name and idenitity were mis-appreopriated in regard to forged signatures on court documents and that he was made CEO of two holding companies he had no knowledge of.
Also I am sure that Cooper would like to see John Steele and Prenda brought to justice for their roles in the misappropriation of his identity.
The fact I think that the Judge didn't delve to much int the depth of what was really going on and her confusion at the beginning, I believe sets this up for an appeal.
I am sure Cooper is going to want some vindication and some monetary compensation for the mis-use of his name and identity By Prenda et all.
The fact that Hansmeier took it while bent over from the Judge leads me to believe that he will also appeal due to the fact that the Judge said she would be forwarding the matter to the Minnesota State Bar.
This would now make 2 different cases were Hansmeier alone has been told the State Bar would be getting the case details and his actions have been called into question.
Prenda and those who are involved in it have now been subject to investigations of various State Bars, State and Federal Attorney General and the Criminal Division of the IRS.
Now Team Prenda is not done yet, they still have to explain why someone signed documents as Salt Marsh to Judge Chen in the SF court case...good luck with that, I think we will see the sanctions train make another stop at Team Prenda.
Has anyone noticed that A lot of Team Prenda has been hit with sanctions and state bar referrals, except that is for John "Teflon John" Steele.
I have to wonder if John really retired, or if his retirement was forced upon him. It seems rather odd that everyone else connected with Prenda is getting it in the ass (so to speak)
Think about it. Duffy has been referred to the state of California Bar and the Illinois State Bar.
Gibbs has been referred state of California Bar.
Hansmeier has been reffered to the Minnesota State Bar.
The only one to escape that is Steele. Now either John is smarter than we think or maybe John retired to avoid the very troubles his Prenda Team mates are about to have.
I really wonder if John retired or his licensce was going to be pulled and maybe he cut a deal to avoid loss of his license, that would make some sense if you think about it.
Now does anyone here really believe John is retired, I doubt it. If you think about, why would John Steele who is retired, show up in court for the Sunlust pictures case and when the Judge asked who he was, John basically lept up and stated "My name is John Steele, and I am not a practicing lawyer and am not admitted to the Florida State bar and have nothing to do with this case"
But yet there John was, coincidence, I doubt it...It's my opinion that John is still playing lawyer behind the scene but trying to pass it off as consulting, but really I think Stelle, Duffy and Hansmeier run all the litigation and write most of the filings themselves, sans Brent Gibbs of course who I think is dumb enough to do his own.
I wonder how Hansmeier, Duffy & Gibbs feel about their legal careers taking a vicious beating by the courts and their professional careers in jeopardy while Steel walk virtually unscathed.
It will be interesting to see what happens if the main players in Team Prenda get hit with RICO, I wonder who will be the first to save their skin and turn professional witness for the prosecution... and I would suffice to say that Steele will be the one to find out after the music stops their wont be a chair for him to sit in.
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I don't think we have seen the last of this yet, I would have to believe that Godfread & Cooper will appeal being with the confusion with Judge Wrights motion causing the Judge to be a little befuddled with the aspects of the case.
I would think Godfread will want to clear Coopers name and get him some monetary compensation for the mis-use and mis-appropriation of Coopers identity.
So I agree that Godread work isn't in vain and I don't think that Team Prenda and especially John "Teflon John" Steele has escaped Godfread's legal acumen as of yet
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In the MN case, Cooper filed alleging they stole his identity and to hold them accountable for that. As the Prenda train derails someone would have attempted to sue Alan Cooper who signed the copyright transfers for the shell company and Mr. Cooper would have been left holding the bag for a company he knew nothing about.
She literally did NOTHING to help Mr. Cooper, because she failed to read and understand Judge Wrights order and predecided that Cooper was a bad guy like the other people.
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These lawyers did that, and skated out with a note send to their moms.
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Steele pookie, put on your big boy pants and at least put your name on things.
How does it feel having your ass handed to you by a bunch of anonymous people on the internet?
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Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!
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This bias on the part of the judges is brazenly obvious.
This bias is unfair to the plaintiff/lawyers (who are one and the same party although separated by a tangled web of paper shell companies). This bias prevents the plaintiff from pursuing the much needed mailing list of identities for sending out threatening extortion letters.
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> Hansmeier will laugh at it and say, "Fraudulent according to whom?"
I suspect there is some objective standard of fraud. I suspect the judge expects Prenda to know this and what that standard is. I suspect if they demonstrate a lack of knowledge again, she will educate them.
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A bad day for Prenda is having yet another court that has some sort of bias against lawyers committing fraud and other criminal acts upon and by use of the courts. This is one less court that you can use in your extortion scheme. Even worse, because choice of judges in a court may be random, if you file in that court, you may once again get the judge who has the bias against fraud.
A bad day for Prenda lawyers is getting yet another bad referral to one or more bars.
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Each exciting episode of Prenda Law:
1. is more entertaining than most Hollywood tripe
2. is reality
3. has no commercials
4. can be freely shared and discussed
5. costs nothing
6. is public domain
7. is educational
8. and really rankles you because of the the preceding items
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Maybe Nora is just worried that Steele is going to take the big fall, since it's Gibbs, Duffy and Hansmeier who are all referred to their various State Bars and could have a variety of things happen with their licence to practice law while Steele escapes that happening to him.
Could be Nora is a little worried that Gibbs, Duffy, Hansmeier or Lutz could always turn into a witness of a RICO case came down.
Obviously Nora is worried that the others could strike a deal and maybe extract a little revenge for their careers being in tatters while Steele escaped without any penalties from the State Bar(s) he belongs to.
Must weigh on Nora's mind a lot that there is the possibility that with a possible RICO case, someone from the group could flip, with the IRS Criminal Division case someone could flip.
Of course this is Hypothetical for now, but we'll have to see what happens.
John -er- I mean Nora, you seem to know a lot of graphic details of what goes on in various porn acts, you must watch a lot of it
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(To clarify my suspicion:
1. I never heard anyone BUT John Steele thinking that I == Erin.
2. The language, especially by "Nora below").
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Course this may or may not be Hypothetical!
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Too funny.
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"And douchebags don't fare well in Chicago"
Here is an oldie but a goodie.
http://dietrolldie.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/poster1.jpg
DTD :)
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The lack of bragging about how they are just misunderstood might remove Steele from the list of possibilities.
It might be Duffys wife, who would be much better served by getting out of her little ivory tower and see the scum she has been sleeping next to for what he truly is, and start asking another lawyer if her ass might end up in the sling too.
If it was posted via Mulvad or FL it would most likely be Steele.
There is also the outside chance it was posted using a DoD network or a GA IP and it would be the 'we're not criminals because gay marriage!' lunatic.
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Risking to sound rude, I note that Duffy's wife probably can't spell half of the words Nora/Heather used.
Also: the only person I know who use the word "tossed" describing lawsuits.... you know who.
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Risking to sound rude, I note that Duffy's wife probably can't spell half of the words Nora/Heather used.
Also: the only person I know who use the word "tossed" describing lawsuits.... you know who.
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