The 217 Representatives Who Voted To Keep NSA Spying On All Your Data
from the what-4th-amendment? dept
We already talked about the Amash Amendment being voted down very narrowly (217 - 205). While it didn't pass, this was still a huge victory, because a few weeks ago (hell, even last week) people predicted that this amendment had no chance at all and might not even be debated. To come within seven votes of passing shows you why the NSA, the White House and the Senate's primary NSA enablers went absolutely ballistic in going all out against the amendment. Think about that: you had incredibly powerful interests working overtime against this amendment, and no special interests beyond basic common decency and grassroots support working for it... and the vote was still incredibly close.The full roll call has now been released, and you'll note that this is not a partisan issue. The vote didn't fall along partisan lines at all. Rep. Mike Rogers (one of the strongest defenders of the program) called the vote "bipartisan" against Amash, but it was equally as bipartisan against the NSA. 94 Republicans and 111 Democrats voted to stop the NSA collecting every phone record on every phone call. 134 Republicans and 83 Democrats voted to let the NSA keep spying on you. I'm thankful that my own Representative, Jackie Speier voted for the Amash Amendment.
There are some strange bedfellows voting in favor of NSA spying: there's Nancy Pelosi right alongside John Boehner. Rep. Issa, who's been so good on tech issues, voted to let the NSA keep spying on all of you, whereas Rep. Gohmert, who's been ridiculous on tech issues, voted to stop the spying. Oddly Reps. Jan Schakowsky and Chris Van Hollen, who have specifically complained about the Patriot Act, voted to let it move forward today. Van Hollen specifically spoke out against Section 215 a few years ago, noting that it was too broad, didn't have safeguards and might be used against innocent Americans. Yet, he voted to allow that to continue today. Bizarre. This amendment would have stopped exactly what he complained about.
Either way, I figured folks would want to see the names of the 217 Congressional Representatives who gave a giant middle finger to the 4th Amendment and voted to let the NSA continue to spy on each and every American citizen. Direct from the roll call:
Aderholt Alexander Andrews Bachmann Barber Barr Barrow (GA) Benishek Bera (CA) Bilirakis Bishop (GA) Bishop (NY) Boehner Bonner Boustany Brady (TX) Brooks (AL) Brooks (IN) Brown (FL) Brownley (CA) Bucshon Butterfield Calvert Camp Cantor Capito Carney Carter Castor (FL) Castro (TX) Cole Collins (GA) Collins (NY) Conaway Cook Cooper Costa Cotton Crawford Crenshaw Cuellar Culberson Davis (CA) Delaney Denham Dent Diaz-Balart Duckworth Ellmers Engel Enyart Esty Flores Forbes Fortenberry Foster Foxx Frankel (FL) Franks (AZ) Frelinghuysen Gallego Garcia Gerlach Gibbs Gingrey (GA) Goodlatte Granger Graves (MO) Green, Al Grimm Guthrie Gutierrez Hanabusa | Hanna Harper Hartzler Hastings (WA) Heck (NV) Heck (WA) Hensarling Higgins Himes Hinojosa Holding Hoyer Hudson Hunter Hurt Israel Issa Jackson Lee Johnson (GA) Johnson, E. B. Johnson, Sam Joyce Kaptur Kelly (IL) Kelly (PA) Kennedy Kilmer Kind King (IA) King (NY) Kinzinger (IL) Kirkpatrick Kline Kuster Lance Langevin Lankford Larsen (WA) Latham Latta Levin Lipinski LoBiondo Long Lowey Lucas Luetkemeyer Maloney, Sean Marino Matheson McCarthy (CA) McCaul McIntyre McKeon McKinley McNerney Meehan Meeks Meng Messer Miller (FL) Miller (MI) Murphy (FL) Murphy (PA) Neugebauer Noem Nunes Nunnelee Olson Palazzo Paulsen Payne Pelosi | Peters (CA) Peters (MI) Peterson Pittenger Pitts Pompeo Price (NC) Quigley Reed Reichert Renacci Rigell Roby Rogers (AL) Rogers (KY) Rogers (MI) Rooney Ros-Lehtinen Roskam Royce Ruiz Runyan Ruppersberger Ryan (OH) Ryan (WI) Schakowsky Schneider Schwartz Scott, Austin Scott, David Sessions Sewell (AL) Shimkus Shuster Simpson Sinema Sires Slaughter Smith (NE) Smith (TX) Smith (WA) Stivers Stutzman Terry Thompson (CA) Thornberry Tiberi Titus Turner Upton Valadao Van Hollen Vargas Veasey Visclosky Wagner Walberg Walden Walorski Wasserman Schultz Webster (FL) Wenstrup Westmoreland Whitfield Wilson (FL) Wittman Wolf Womack Woodall Young (FL) Young (IN) |
As for those who voted to cut off the NSA's ability to do bulk data collection on all your phone calls:
Amash Amodei Bachus Barton Bass Becerra Bentivolio Bishop (UT) Black Blackburn Blumenauer Bonamici Brady (PA) Braley (IA) Bridenstine Broun (GA) Buchanan Burgess Capps Capuano Cardenas Carson (IN) Cartwright Cassidy Chabot Chaffetz Chu Cicilline Clarke Clay Cleaver Clyburn Coffman Cohen Connolly Conyers Courtney Cramer Crowley Cummings Daines Davis, Danny Davis, Rodney DeFazio DeGette DeLauro DelBene DeSantis DesJarlais Deutch Dingell Doggett Doyle Duffy Duncan (SC) Duncan (TN) Edwards Ellison Eshoo Farenthold Farr Fattah Fincher Fitzpatrick Fleischmann Fleming Fudge Gabbard Garamendi | Gardner Garrett Gibson Gohmert Gosar Gowdy Graves (GA) Grayson Green, Gene Griffin (AR) Griffith (VA) Grijalva Hahn Hall Harris Hastings (FL) Holt Honda Huelskamp Huffman Huizenga (MI) Hultgren Jeffries Jenkins Johnson (OH) Jones Jordan Keating Kildee Kingston Labrador LaMalfa Lamborn Larson (CT) Lee (CA) Lewis Loebsack Lofgren Lowenthal Lujan Grisham (NM) Lujan, Ben Ray (NM) Lummis Lynch Maffei Maloney, Carolyn Marchant Massie Matsui McClintock McCollum McDermott McGovern McHenry McMorris Rodgers Meadows Mica Michaud Miller, Gary Miller, George Moore Moran Mullin Mulvaney Nadler Napolitano Neal Nolan Nugent O'Rourke | Owens Pascrell Pastor (AZ) Pearce Perlmutter Perry Petri Pingree (ME) Pocan Poe (TX) Polis Posey Price (GA) Radel Rahall Rangel Ribble Rice (SC) Richmond Roe (TN) Rohrabacher Ross Rothfus Roybal-Allard Rush Salmon Sanchez, Linda T. Sanchez, Loretta Sanford Sarbanes Scalise Schiff Schrader Schweikert Scott (VA) Sensenbrenner Serrano Shea-Porter Sherman Smith (MO) Smith (NJ) Southerland Speier Stewart Stockman Swalwell (CA) Takano Thompson (MS) Thompson (PA) Tierney Tipton Tonko Tsongas Vela Velazquez Walz Waters Watt Waxman Weber (TX) Welch Williams Wilson (SC) Yarmuth Yoder Yoho Young (AK) |
Finally, we've those who didn't vote:
Barletta Beatty Bustos Campbell | Coble Herrera Beutler Horsford McCarthy (NY) | Negrete McLeod Pallone Rokita Schock |
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A little over half, of congress, does not believe in the Constitution they too an oath to uphold. That's nice...
We have 217 traitors in our midst.
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only little people go to jail.
(unless an example needs to be made)
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Response to: Anonymous Coward on Jul 24th, 2013 @ 6:12pm
There are more traitors than 217.......
It starts with the Bohemian secret club...look it up....we have bigger problems yet to be discovered.
Then the Federal Reserve....how it came about and Wall Street and the Bankers.
Can anyone say legalized criminals??
Our beautiful country and what it always stood for.......we are hated more than ever because of our illegal bombings ....forced democracy....envolvement in other countries personal affairs.
We needed to stay in OUR borders and keep jobs here in America!
China is not even an ally, yet our citizens of America are sold out, now if that is not treasonous. Re- Corporate control of the laws that govern our land of "we the people" for whos interest?? Not ours!!
Secret dealings with countries that violate human rights. Our ancestors fought for this country "Our Country"...not for China or Bangladesh or Vietnam. Every piece of clothing, shoes, housewares, auto parts, steel ..you name it is from another country...... We want to know the names of Congress / Representatives that voted and allowed this and the names of the Corporate businesses....this is where the "Root" of the
American job loss is.
No jobs = no revenue=no growth=a nation of consumers that has come full circle. As Walmart drove down the streets of America and pointed to businesses as they passed by and said: they will be out of business, this one out of business and that one out of business as they were pointing to mom and pop stores owned by American families.
I am sorry for going off subject......it is just so much more and deeper problems we face as "American citizens" by secret agreements that hurt all of us as a country. It would be very interesting if there was a Snowden type whistle blower on these special interest groups.........who knows....maybe it may come about from a person with a conscience.
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Yes, there will be more opportunities. Almost certainly. If this had flopped massively, then Congress probably wouldn't take it up again, but with such a close vote... it's going to come back, perhaps in an even better form.
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I would be inclined to agree, but since the Pompeo/Nugent amendment went through, wouldn't the majority of Congress believe that the red herring amendment was all that was needed to stop the NSA and they no longer have to worry about the issue because that's what the amendment promised?
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Also, interesting to see Nugent voted Aye on Amash's amendment as well...
I'm glad to see my rep (LaMalfa) voted Aye on both - that suggests he is interested in defunding NSA. I'll have to send him a supportive email.
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Oh what a surprise, he voted "no".
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When it comes time for him to go for re-election, make sure to plaster this info everywhere that your rep is anti-American and votes to take away freedoms and liberties.
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Head hung in shame
Up to me now to do something about it.
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Already sent an email expressing disgust.
As corrupt as these people are, I'm not at all surprised.
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I think a lot of these assholes will be very surprised to find that this is a very hot button issue for vast numbers of Americans. Hot enough to get a lot of them voted out of office next time around.
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People won't give a shit about this come election time, they will be quite happy texting with their Obama phone while watching cable TV sitting in their government subsidized home eating steak they purchased with welfare benefits and remembering to not bite the hand that feeds them.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYVvuDRstDw&feature=c4-overview&list=UUEHsSWvrGVSIA 63OV3J6vhA
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(In all seriousness I doubt the NSA is tracing his comment back to him even if they could.)
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You forgot the part about regurgitating the stereotypical narrative of their selected party which is spoon fed to them via the idiot box which hypnotizes its viewers into zombie zealots.
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It could be argued that such a vast affront to the constitution makes the NSA a domestic enemy and as such the representatives are "giving aid and comfort to the enemy"...
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or
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
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No, it really depends on how the Constitution defines those things. Voting, even for despicable laws, does not qualify.
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That's the point I was trying to make... Having watched many films I know the military oath swears to defend "the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic", does not the congressional oath have a similar line?
As for the constitution defining those things, the US government seems to have a "secret interpretation" of that too - just ask Mr Snowden...
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No, an "enemy" is someone engaging in armed aggression against the US.
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Response to: Binko Barnes on Jul 24th, 2013 @ 6:40pm
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1 out of 3
At least my rep (Tierney) voted Yea.
I wonder if the non-voters were abstentions or not present. With Markey now a Senator, Massachusetts is absent a representative for a while (I do wish the list had the state for each of the reps instead of just the duplicates -- I'm somewhat embarrassed to say I don't know the names of our entire [Massachusetts] delegation).
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Give your rep a call tomorrow and let him/her know that you're thankful that they supported the 4th amendment.
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4 from WA State...
It's a sad day in the Northwest. Time to make some phone calls.
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Thanks
(And I'm even more pleased to say that my representative is listed in the "Ayes" table.)
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My rep said yes. I am calling to say thank you.
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PRISM
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Er... it's worth pointing out that the above amendment had NOTHING to do with PRISM. This was about a different program, the Section 215 "business records" collection. The PRISM stuff is different, part of Section 702 of FISA and not nearly as bad as people have made it out to be (though it does have some problems).
It's a little frustrating that people are lumping everything under PRISM when that's not the really bad program
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It really pisses me off that people I voted for has just betrayed everything this nation was fucking founded on...
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not that we should be surprised considering they willfully abdicated most of their power and responsibility to the executive branch, the federal reserve bank, the DHS, the UN and the banksters who pay for their seat at the table and promise them fat private paychecks once their time feeding at the public trough is up.
still though it would have been funny if somebody screwed up the voting assignments and this thing had actually passed by accident, just watching the shit storm that followed as they tried to figure out who screwed up and how to correct the "mistake" would have been worth the price of admission.
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Response to: Anonymous Coward on Jul 24th, 2013 @ 7:21pm
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Against: Annie Kuster, who seems to always kowtow to the administration. Will likely get her more party money come the election, but will cost her with the NH voters (do not like toadies).
For: Carol Shae-Porter. Appears to vote with her conscience, and the wishes of those who elected her, not just someone who simply bends to party orders. May cost her party money, but she will win her next election.
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Given that Carol never managed in her first 4 years in office (nor since regaining it) to become a co-sponsor of HR676 despite claiming throughout that period that she supported Medicare for all I'm not sure how much credit we can give her for the Amash vote - she may just have had enough seniority by now that Annie was selected to bear the brunt of any progressive backlash as one of those required to vote against the measure to ensure that it would not pass (there's a lot of such back-room dealing in such matters, just as occurred with the CPC who unanimously reneged on their written pledges to oppose any health-care bill that lacked a strong 'public option' when their votes were needed to pass Obamacare - even Dennis Kucinich caved eventually, though it took a ride on Air Force One to bring him around, and it would not surprise me if that's why he failed to get renominated and reelected after redistricting).
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schakowsky doesn't do anything
either she supports the NSA outright (her letters are typical "can't let the terrorists win"), or she simply doesn't even understand the issue at hand.
either way, I hope people realize the woman shouldn't even be in office.
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Colorado reps
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This wasn't optional when you were elected. If you disagree then you can no longer serve.
There are at least 217 who deserve impeachment for violating their oath of office.
No question about it.
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I'm liking my new Rep ^_^
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Only One MA Rep Got it Right
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So really, you should be happy that all but 1 of our reps got it right.
Also, can we please put the idea that one party is for small government? There's a reason the majority of Republicans and a large sum of Democrats voted against the amendment, and its not their love of small government.
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There must be a stale cache somewhere that's not recognizing that the site's front page has changed in that time, and I'm pretty sure it's not my browser's. It's probably part of your hosting/load-balancing setup. Please fix ASAP.
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Traitors not Representatives of the People
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Rabble! Rabble rabble!
Time to yell at both of them.
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http://www.mccaul.house.gov/map/
WTF!
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So, which side of the house do you sleep in?
If it's closer to Dis 7, then Meehan is your rep, if it's Dis 13, then Schwartz is your rep.
That's how I would look at it at least.
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Disgust
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Traitors every last one
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The Senators are 2 for every state.
Members of the House are put there based on the relative population of the state they're from.
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Well, the state from which they were elected anyway ;-)
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On that note, it feels to me that the few people who make decisions at the agency have no idea how computers or networks work, so they go overboard in requesting everything. The high ranking decision makers are probably the type of people who run screaming from a room when they hear "computer virus" because they're afraid of getting sick. It's not surprising that they didn't foresee whatever consequences that may follow.
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The rest should be publicly hung for treason.
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The vote
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Yes we do. The term for each member of the House of Representative is two years. This means all 435 congressmen (and women) are up for reelection next year in 2014.
Also useful to know would be the Senate. The term there is six years, but reelections are staggered so that every two years, about one-third of the senators are up for reelection. There are two senators in each state and even their reelection dates are also staggered.
Senator Wyden of Oregan is a three-term Senator (technically 3+) having been elected to full six-year terms in 1998, 2004 and 2010. His next reelection will be in 2016.
One other thing to know would be the Primary and General elections. The Primary election is where the political party ask its members who should be nominated. The winner of this election goes on to the General election-- which determines who is elected to that office.
To answer your question, all of the Representatives who voted for and against this amendment to a bill are up for reelection. Vote according to your values and conscience. If needed, don't forget about the primary election.
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Remember to be thankful if you were represented according to your values
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Abe Lincoln qoute
"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."
-Abraham Lincoln
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Identify by state, district
At a glance, we can see not only how our own representative voted, but how others in our state did as well as how other states came down on the vote.
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