50% Of 'Retiring' Senators Now Become Lobbyists, Up From 3% A Few Decades Ago
from the the-influence-business-is-good-business dept
This is from a little while ago, but Hunter Walk alerts us to a buried gem in a NY Times' book review of This Town by Mark Leibovich -- a book about Washington DC that sounds just horrific (not the book itself, but the concept of wanting to know any more about DC). The review notes that Leibovich buried an interesting statistic deep in the book:in 1974, 3 percent of retiring members of Congress became lobbyists. “Now 50 percent of senators and 42 percent of congressmen do.” No one goes home anymore.We've talked plenty about the corrupting influences of the revolving door between industries and the government. Not all lobbyists or lobbying is bad, per se, but it's a symptom of the times we live in and the business of influence. It highlights the kind of "soft corruption" that Larry Lessig has been talking about for years, where it's not out-and-out bribery, but merely the promise of a cushy job down the road that can have tremendous impact on the way the government functions.
And, with so much money flowing into lobbying efforts, we're building a system where political entrepreneurship outweighs market entrepreneurship -- and that's exceptionally dangerous for our economy and our future. Political entrepreneurs -- those who manipulate the system for their own benefit -- tend to focus on locking up value, limiting competition and providing themselves with greater control over the market. Market entrepreneurs are more focused on innovation, expanding the pie and economic growth. Tragically, political entrepreneurs, via massive lobbying efforts, like to pretend they're about market entrepreneurship, and we get a system of crony capitalism that actually does significant harm to the economy.
When nearly half of everyone in Congress who is retiring jumps into that business of helping political entrepreneurship, the system is completely broken.
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Everyone seems to confuse the symptom for the disease.
Corruption is a symptom. As long as government has the power to pick winners and losers, give money and tax breaks to politically-favored interests, rig markets and limit competition, people will find ways to corrupt those in power to ensure they get these goodies.
The disease is too much discretion - too much power - in the hands of government. Until you cure that, fiddling with symptoms (lobbying, etc.) just moves the lump to a different spot under the carpet.
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I said remove discretion and the ability to pick winners.
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That would seem to bring the relationship between lobbyists and politicians to a far less economic negotiating/racketeering position and towards a sharing of opinions and information.
Ideally funding of the political machine should happen from sources no politician can see or through public funding. Unfortunately that has not been achieved anywhere in the world yet.
Corruption is a resource problem and lobbying is an information problem getting taken as a hostage in the resource problem.
Just starving the beast is in no way gonna change the corrupt nature of politics by itself. You need far more targeted approaches to hit Business Software Association, Disney, Recording Industry Association of America, lawyers against tax reform, private market workers unions and several others who are not directly depending on public funding, but specific law-complexes giving them a business model. Unless you remove human beings from lawmaking you will not be able to curb that side of things.
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All those groups want certain laws passed, repealed, preserved, or modified, to benefit themselves.
As long as government has the power to make laws that benefit some at the expense of others, the problem will persist.
The only solutions I know of are:
1) Take away the power to pass special-interest legislation. If a law preferentially benefits/harms some group, it would be unconstitutional.
or,
2) Enforce the takings clause of the 5th Amendment seriously. Allow the government to pass whatever laws it likes, but mandate 100% compensation for the losers (enforceable in the courts).
The only way to pay for the compensation is to tax the winners - so the only laws that are fiscally possible are those that create more net win than net lose. (This was Richard Epstein's proposal in his book _Takings_.)
I don't know of any other solutions to "cure the disease". (I'd be delighted to hear of any, tho.)
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2) Is a very interesting thought, but again, given 1) it is quite a problem to draw the line. Is environmental standards a compensation inducing principle? Health? Worker safety standards? Abortion? economic redistribution programs for private people? Human rights? If it is everything, the taxation increase would need to be quite significant. Not to mention the war in economic theories that would make the calculations dubious at best.
I like some of the ideas of Epstein, but I do not think it serves us well to make something that is needed in some places into a religious belief and use it to create policies in other areas.
The way to do things would in any case revolve around non-corrupted politicians to get the ball rolling in the first place. In the end, that is what I see as the biggest problem, hence the political funding idea.
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Lobbying is the inverse of a democratic process. Politicians should consult with their electorate, and could do so now because of modern communications. Lobbying means that politicians are listening to special interest groups rather than the people they are meant to represent.
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Good Money in Federal Politics
In most countries this would be considered bribery, its only in america that its "almost".
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One short-term politician got a cushy job at Microsoft after throwing everything at keeping open office out of public computers. Another longer-term politician got hired as a straight up lobbyist.
Lobbyism has been relatively manageable in Europe, but through the last 20 years it has completely exploded. First in Bruxelles, then in national parliaments and now it has spread to lower level office, even though they are still struggling to hijack the local idealist politicians.
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"I hate to say this, but Washington really had so much more integrity in the Watergate Era."
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50% is probably true at all levels.
Really what are we producing in this country that brings money to us? We can't just be a snake devouring its own tail all of the time.
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Intellectual property.
\sarc
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Fixed that for you. ;)
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I just can't trust this system anymore something is very wrong.
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The balance of power has firmly shifted away from the people and into the hands of corporations. And there's no way to get it back.
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Do what pirates did, create parallel systems and start using those systems instead of the "official channels".
Of course some will try to make it illegal and use the force of the state to stop it, there is where perseverance pays off and maybe a dash of stupidity to help ignore all the bad that could happen in the short term.
Create meta institutions that start to take over the functions that government perform and show it to everybody else so that is the format that everybody expects to be the one that works, one of two things will happen, it either will fail miserably or force the government to adopt that format.
For everything the government does there is a way to do it on the private side.
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It seems really draconian, and it is, but I can't see any other solution.
You're also right that it would weed out people getting into politics for the wrong reasons. It truly would ensure that public servants are just that, servants of the public.
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As for power, i'm not sure it would attract many of those types. I mean, yeah, there's power...but after that you become totally impotent. no cushy jobs influencing those in power, no running giant businesses millions of people depend on, no fancy cars or jewels or houses or parties. Would such a plain lifestyle really be worth it to many of the truly power hungry?
The major problem is that we can't let congress be control of it's own retirement plan, so we'd have to put someone else in control. Not the president or justices, unless they get a quid pro quo (correct latin phrase?) relationship going where they keep bumping up each other's pension plans. Also nepotism, where I bite the bullet and take the government job and pass legislation that will make my mom/wife/brother/family a ton of money.
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But we'll also apply Acquisition Ethics rules like the DoD has (or a meaningful version of the same). In the DoD, if you had anything to do with a company's success, like being granted (or denied) a contract, you or your family can't work for them for 5 years. You're also forced off the contract approval board if a family member already works for a company bidding on the contract. There's some other stuff as well, like caps on gifts from individual sources and from all sources per year, but that's the gist of it.
So now that there's no more career politicians and the revolving door is locked, a lot of the problems just vanish.
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"the system is completely broken." -- YEAH, we know, Mike.
As a privileged Ivy League elite, you're supposed to at least be able to outline fixes. So let's have your notions.
I've already outlined mine, first identified the bad actors: The Rich own the gov't and are the source of most problems in the world, including copyright and patent abuses, are always waging a class war because they profit from it, and the fix is to TAX THE HELL OUT OF 'EM. It's been tested through all history as the only non-violent way to keep people from going crazy with power and wrecking civilization.
But that time-tested fix is ruled out by Corporatist Mike (silently, he never gives any substantive opinion), who views The Rich as the only productive part of society, besides counts them his pals.
Reality versus Mike: Technorati ranks Techdirt # 6238.
http://technorati.com/blogs/www.techdirt.com
So why does Mike claim "a consistent Technorati Technology Top 100 rating"?
http://www.techdirt.com/about.php
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Re: "the system is completely broken." -- YEAH, we know, Mike.
1. Hypocrisy: it takes a real special kind of person to accuse someone of class warfare literally one phrase away from blaming 'most problems in the world' on 'The Rich.'
2. Non sequitor: taking money from The Rich and giving it to the government by taxing it all off of them doesn't actually change anything. You've just exchange one small group in charge of most of the money for a slightly different group in charge of most of the money.
3. No sources: Cite even one example of it 'working' please.
4. Misrepresentation: Threatening people with violence if they don't give the government their money i.e. taxes is the opposite of non-violent.
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That's how stupid your lolbertarian statement is.
Taxes provide for common gains. Rich people pay more taxes because they receive more benefit from the state's protection.
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Not only that, but you've given it to the group that has most of the guns and the jails. Seems like a bad combination.
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A really, really, really bad combination IMHO.
I've also asked Blue how would we go about determining who is to be considered "too rich" (I always seem to get the impression that Blue's line would be anyone making more money than him) and what kind of effects a "success tax" would have on our free market economy.
He never answers the questions.
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I've always thought a flat, no loophole income tax was a good idea. Although, I thought the percentage needed to equal what we are collecting now was closer to 15%, but I could be wrong. As an added bonus, it would also free some of the cash needed to support a huge government bureaucracy like the IRS.
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Wait, wait, WAIT. I thought "Pirate Mike" was a friend of the lazy, freeloading, freetarding, pirate, thief, stealers of other people's "property?"
He can't both support the "thieves" AND the content producers (big, rich corporations) unless he is some diabolical criminal mastermind of the James Bond tradition, and those guys don't actually exist.
You are incredible. You literally change your narrative every post just so you can take an opposing stance to whatever Mike posts. Talk about being clinically insane.
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Congress should walk the streets
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Mike it seems, has unfortunately given up hope
I call bullshit. All lobbying is bad.
Democracy is not who shouts loudest or most frequently.
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It's not bad if the issue you are lobbying for is....
It is bad if the issue someone is lobbying for is....
You cant have it both ways.
EG... Good when you do it, bad when Oil industry does it.
Social lobbying via pressure is the generally accepted line.
HOWEVER is that social lobbying not what voting is for ?
Stand by my statement that pretty much all lobbying is bad.
Of course when the reason for lobbying is good, that statement becomes harder to say. Still stands though.
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conflict of interests
Am I the only one concerned abou tthis
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Racketeering
Payoff
On
Received
Kickbacks
More transparency does nothing to solve corruption. We need to take the money out of politics and politics out of government. The founders said the two party system will destroy our Constitutional Republic, it has. We need to storm the WH and arrest every one of those career criminals, give em life in prison and seize all their assets to pay down the debt. Claw back every dime of taxpayer money that was given to special interest.
TERM LIMITS
OUTLAW LOBBYIST, RACKETEERING, BRIBERY
BAN POLITICAL PARTIES IN GOVERNMENT
ELECTION BY LOTTERY
STAND ALONE LEGISLATION
AUDIT FEDERAL RESERVE, REPEAL FRA OF 1913
SHRINK FED GOV 75%
END THE UNMITIGATED DISASTER,WAR ON DRUGS, MEDICAL ISSUE
OBEY THE CONSTITUTION TO THE LETTER
LET FREEDOM, PROSPERITY REIGN
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