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Mon, Aug 19th 2013 12:39pm — Tim Cushing

Here's another one of those famous "anomalies": a DMCA takedown request that takes down tons of content that doesn't belong to the named rights holders. This DMCA request is almost all anomaly.

IP Arrow claims to represent Zuffa Inc., better known as the parent company of the UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship.) We know algorithms are flawed but whatever software IP Arrow is deploying seems to randomly collect links and dump them in a DMCA notice. (Second theory: an IP Arrow employee's personal searches are somehow making their way onto the submitted forms.)

The UFC is notorious for aggressively pursuing infringement of its PPV events. Apparently, there's plenty of pre-recorded stuff floating around the net and the UFC wants that gone, too. Unfortunately for the UFC, it gave this job to IP Arrow. In return, IP Arrow has filed a DMCA request claiming (remember, this request is a sworn statement) that the UFC is the rights holder for (possible) child porn.

I'll go ahead and make the bold statement that these photos of naked teenagers are not Zuffa/UFC's "work." I can't (or rather won't) attempt to verify whether these photos are actual child porn. But that's not really the issue. The fact is that IP Arrow is issuing takedown links to files that appear to be child porn while making the claim that Zuffa/UFC hold the copyright to these photos.

This isn't the only issue with the DMCA request, but it's by far the most damaging one. The rest of the notice contains some links to UFC content, but those links are the minority. This isn't a case of a few inadvertent links being swept up because of similar keywords or file names. This is a nearly-random link dump that requests takedowns of a wide variety of content completely unrelated to the UFC.

http://www.vertor.com/download/Bigcutie+Kennedy
http://torrentcrazy.com/s/ps2-killzone-2
http://torrentcrazy.com/s/teen-truth-or-dare-xxx
http://rapidlibrary.com/files/nika-tsereteli-mamuka-berika-post-white-reggae-mp3_ulzwwzqrfvi89on.html
http://allsoftmac.com/movies/129370-hammer-of-the-gods-2013-limited-720p-brrip-x264-ac3-crewsade.html
http://allsoftmac.com/tv-shows/128962-pbs-secrets-of-the-dead-the-man-who-saved-the-world-2012-hdtv-720p-aac-x264-mvgroup.html
http://allsoftmac.com/tv-shows/129006-true-blood-s06e09-life-matters-web-dl-720p-dd51-h264-ntb.html
http://allmacsoft.com/e-books/129323-pannovation-and-the-gatefree-space-decentralized-innovation-is-a-game-changing-force.html
http://allmacsoft.com/software/129454-os-x-mavericks-109-developer-preview-4-macosx-dmg.html
http://torrentjo.com/Indian+Telly+Awards+-+25th+May+2013+-+Full+Episode-page8.html
http://rapidshare.zoozle.net/suche.php?q=blue+oyster+cult+the+ultimate
http://torrentcrazy.ee/torrent/2362056/xxx-comic-dragonball-z-extra-milk

That's just a sampling of what's claimed to be UFC's copyrighted content by IP Arrow.

According to Google's transparency report, IP Arrow is new to the anti-piracy game, having first showed up on August 5th. Since then, it has been very busy, firing off 61 takedown requests for 47,000 links in just over two weeks. Its other requests haven't been much better in terms of targeting only infringement of its clients' work. (Other clients are Lynda.com and Lionsgate Films.)

A takedown request on behalf of Zuffa/UFC sent August 5th asks for the removal of (among several other things) episodes of Big Bang Theory, a version of Nero Burning ROM and an album by the Handsome Furs. Here's an unedited chunk of one request, which shows the range of content IP Arrow is attempting to take down.

Yes. IP Arrow is even asking to have the entire results of a search for the term ".rar" taken down.

Its work for Lynda.com shows the same amount of incompetence. Lynda.com offers video courses on "business, software and creative skills" for $25/month. Here's what IP Arrow is taking down supposedly on Lynda's behalf.

Yes. That's right. According to IP Arrow, Lynda.com has produced a variety of pornographic videos, including "icest rape porn." Much like Zuffa/UFC above, I'm sure Lynda.com appreciates having its name associated with potentially illegal material.

Attempting to discover anything about IP Arrow's methodology is a dead end. Its website [which is down at the moment - cache link] is barely more than a placeholder (with a rather long TOS), sporting bold icons against a 1970s wood panel backdrop. It makes a few broad statements about how "different" its service is but contains no actual information as to how it performs this "different" work.

Judging from the quality of the DMCA notices it's issued, IP Arrow either has no idea what it's doing or just doesn't care. What's worse is that its submitted links have been taken down nearly 100% of the time, despite the fact that its DMCA notices are loaded with content its clients don't own. Its work for Lionsgate seems to be slightly more accurate than its takedowns for Lynda and Zuffa, but even those have a number of errors as well. Here it is attempting to take down infringing copies of one of the worst titled sequels ever, "The Haunting in Connecticut 2: Ghosts of Georgia."

Once again, a legitimate company is also a distributor of teen porn according to IP Arrow.

I've contacted the companies IP Arrow is currently issuing takedowns for (along with IP Arrow itself -- whose site is now mysteriously down) and will update if I receive any replies. While I appreciate the fact that these companies are seeking to protect their copyrighted material, I think they should be concerned that the agent representing them is now linking their names with very questionable porn. They should also be concerned that these sworn statements are also claiming they "own" copyrighted content belonging to others, but I would imagine things like "incest porn" and "15 year old vaginas" appearing on takedown requests in their names will be more troubling to them than the serialized false statements IP Arrow is issuing.

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Ninja (profile), 19 Aug 2013 @ 11:26am

Soldier1: Major ootb, another anomaly wave incoming!
Major: Fear not, soldier, we shall not be defeat by Lord Masnick and his pesky facts and minions.
Soldier: But sir, this time the Anomaly Fault was not started by Lord Masnick, it was his evil General Tim "Lion" Cushing. Oh and we got hit by REPORT torpedoes.
Major: Hold on soldier, we have gone through this before.
Soldier: Now they are using the FOR THE CHILDREN phasers agains us!
Major: CUUUUUURSE YOU MASNICK!

Ahem.
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That One Guy (profile), 19 Aug 2013 @ 11:39am

So bad it's intentional?
Given how insanely scatter-shot these DMCA takedown requests are, and especially considering the addition of porn titles(both legal and very much not), I almost have to wonder if the company was set up to do this intentionally, to provide such blatantly obvious cases of DMCA abuse that someone takes them to court, wins handily against them, and thereby sets a precedent that provides at least some sort of penalty for bogus DMCA claims.

We'll call that, the 'best case scenario'.

In order of bad to worse, the other two possibilities I can think of are:

1. The company filing the DMCA takedown requests have realized that there are no punishments for filing bogus takedown requests, and have thrown together a program that just searches through torrent lists and grabs names at random.

2. The torrents/files listed are reflections of what the people at the company are looking for in their spare time, or 'as part of the job', in which case given some of them, they have some serious explaining to do.
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out_of_the_blue, 19 Aug 2013 @ 1:08pm

I've taught you all to recognize anomalies!
NOW, if only you knew not to bother with them as if prove your case about the evils of copyright.

But wait! What does the long absent minion say? --
"While I appreciate the fact that these companies are seeking to protect their copyrighted material," -- Okay! You support copyright, should stop there...

And perhaps consider whether the titles are accurate: the minion specifically didn't check... A pirate plank is that file hosts like Megaupload can't bar uploads on basis of a mere title even when accurately named -- so you just go barking off with the specter of child porn exactly as David Cameron does.

Gotcha. Your tactics vary to whatever is useful to you.

@ Ninja: thanks for the advance publicity! You really show how little effect I have here, by going barking off before I even post. No matter how many times I or others point out that you're just embiggening my effect, you manifestly cannot stop yourself -- because you've nothing else to say.

Mike supports copyright TOO! So why aren't you pirates attacking him at every turn? HMM?
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 1:09pm

So child porn dmca notices are 58% of all cases?

That's what it means in ootb speak
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 1:09pm

Good lord, put a NSFW flag on this post. I almost burst out laughing at work when I read 'xxx-comic-dragonball-z-extra-milk'
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 1:10pm

Response to: Anonymous Coward on Aug 19th, 2013 @ 1:09pm
That's what anomaly means in ootb speak
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 1:11pm

Where's SWAT
Where is the SWAT team busting down the UFC's door looking for the rest of their child porn stash!
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 1:11pm

It might be wise to CYA...
I may be off base here, but, I would change text just a tad bit so it doesn't give the full address for those child porn torrents. Yes, I know you're quoting a DMCA claim that links to a torrent, and that torrent might not be what it says it is, but still. All it takes is one gomer to complain to an authority that doesn't think bloggers can be journalists and before you know it you're being accused of linking to child porn.

That is unless I'm being ultra paranoid, in which case, carry on.
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 1:13pm

If I'm caught watching porn at work, I will now claim that its Lynda's training videos.
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 1:13pm

Re: It might be wise to CYA...
Yeah, IP maximists are big into Communist tactics so they'll jump at any chance to use the law to silence those they dislike
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 1:13pm

Wow, they have no aim at all. They must be using a crappy auto crossbow.
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 1:17pm

If they're swearing that this is their content ....
Call the FBI, it sounds like a simple case of self incrimination.
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crade (profile), 19 Aug 2013 @ 1:20pm

Re: I've taught you all to recognize anomalies!
Lol, well it's not hard to recognize what you will call anomalies. Basically anything that doesn't agree with your view.. Or alledged view at least, it's kinda hard to believe it's genuine.
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RD, 19 Aug 2013 @ 1:20pm

Re: I've taught you all to recognize anomalies!
"Mike supports copyright TOO! So why aren't you pirates attacking him at every turn? HMM?"

Because we ALSO support copyright. What we do NOT support is this ongoing, deep-seated and penalty-free ABUSE of copyright that seems to be replacing your beloved "anomalies" at an alarming rate.
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 1:20pm

Re: I've taught you all to recognize anomalies!
OOTB, master of inaccuracy, defends the inaccurate. Shocking.
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 1:23pm

As an evil person, I will make my webserver name all files after raunchy child porn sounding names by randomly mixing type, age, and other basic facts so that anyone who issues a DCMA notice to me will be forced to say he owns the rights to child porn.

Of course the file name will have nothing to do with the content, it would be just some kind of random name generator.
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silverscarcat (profile), 19 Aug 2013 @ 1:25pm

Re:
Come on, Ninja, at least save that for when he replies.

This was an attempt to troll him.

GAWD!

LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!

I had to defend OOTB!!
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 1:27pm

Re:
Using a homemade shotgun would be my guess.
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pegr, 19 Aug 2013 @ 1:29pm

Re: So bad it's intentional?
No, it's worse than random. You can't claim copyright ownership over a name of a file, so you should be a good copyright citizen and download the content to determine if it's infringing. Do you think they downloaded that content?
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 1:32pm

Re: Re: I've taught you all to recognize anomalies!
More at 11
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That Anonymous Coward (profile), 19 Aug 2013 @ 1:39pm

Re:
They have claimed rights over child porn, won't someone think of the children?

This law is a joke, the problem is it is not funny.
Don't jump fast enough, overreact quick enough we'll have you in court and be demanding fines and strip other protections.

Claim ownership of CP on a legal document, no big deal.

This helps highlight what the fuck is wrong with this country.
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Lord Binky, 19 Aug 2013 @ 1:42pm

Re:
That's what I thought when I read this. Didn't seem like a bad idea. It could also be fun to manipulate hyperlink names to cause them to automatically file that the web page "Our-client-officially-anounces-the-transfer-of-all-copyrights-to-the-public-domain/" or "Hereby_Dismiss_all_charges_please_ignore_the_.html"
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 1:49pm

Re: I've taught you all to recognize anomalies!
NOW, if only you knew not to bother with them as if prove your case about the evils of copyright.

Honestly, I didn't need YOU to tell me that most of these titles were NOT owned by the fucktards that were stupid enough to contract with IP Arrow.

But I do get what you're thinking...

In your (otherwise empty) head, "anomaly" is defined as "standard operating procedure."

The rest of us must be wrong...yeah, that's it.
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NaBUru38 (profile), 19 Aug 2013 @ 2:13pm

A 14 year-old isn't a "child", is a teenager.
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 2:17pm

Hey. If they declare under penalty of perjury that they hold the copyright to those works, we, and the DA, should take them at their word.
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 2:21pm

if a kid can rant on FB that he will hurt someone...and get arrested for like 90 days (or whatever the story was)....and a whole lot of other similar situations...why isn't anyone arresting the good people at Lynda.com or UFC?
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Anonymous, 19 Aug 2013 @ 2:39pm

Re:
Agreed, but try telling the US government that.
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Rekrul, 19 Aug 2013 @ 2:40pm

I can't (or rather won't) attempt to verify whether these photos are actual child porn.

They aren't even actual files.

Those are fake results that simply mirror whatever you put into the search box. Unless there really are files on the net with the title of "hjgolfhjgflg". Try it, go to NowTorrents (or virtually any low-level torrent site) and type gibberish into the search box. You'll get 3-4 "sponsored" results at the top with whatever you typed in.

It's just a scam to get you to download malware.

Any time you search a site and the top 3-4 results are separate and say "sponsored", "full version", "high-speed" or "trusted download", avoid them like the plague that they are.
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Anonymous, 19 Aug 2013 @ 2:43pm

Re: I've taught you all to recognize anomalies!
I can't understand what a minion says. It all sounds somewhat like "Eeza-beeza-biz-bazza" to me.
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That One Guy (profile), 19 Aug 2013 @ 2:51pm

Re:
That would certainly be worth a laugh. Either they maintain that they(through the proxy of the takedown company) own the rights to highly illegal movies, or they admit to committing perjury by filing bogus claims.
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 3:05pm

Tim, how did you contact the companies? Via e-mail?
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 3:35pm

wait why do u jump to the conclusion that the UFC doesn't hold the rights to these images?

maybe someone at the UFC did take the original photos
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Capitalist Lion Tamer (profile), 19 Aug 2013 @ 3:39pm

Re:
Email, twitter, contact forms. I'm not really expecting an answer, but IP Arrow seems to have taken its site offline.
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 3:55pm

Re: Re:
Ok. Asking because I didn't see "cushing", "techdirt", or "tamer" in the inbound logs for the past 30 days.
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crade (profile), 19 Aug 2013 @ 3:57pm

Re:
The dictionary dissagrees with you. Teenager is a type or subset of child.
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mrtraver (profile), 19 Aug 2013 @ 4:30pm

new line of work
Looks like a collaborative effort by Righthaven and Prenda staff, branching out into new areas of incompetency.
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 4:56pm

Re: Where's SWAT
They should bust down HBO's doors as well. Apparently they own quite a bit as well.

http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=878095
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audiomagi (profile), 19 Aug 2013 @ 6:04pm

Re: Re: Re:
You're a douche. If you really are in a position to check the "inbound logs for the past 30 days" then why did you post anonymously? Why not post your name, your employer, and provide bona fides to distinguish yourself from the general detritus of the internet? If you really have access to the logs, then prove it, otherwise, remove your useless noise from this discussion.
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avideogameplayer, 19 Aug 2013 @ 6:33pm

CP is copyrightable now?

I wonder how the MAFIAA would respond to this...
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Anonymous, 19 Aug 2013 @ 6:46pm

Re: Re:
The dictionary "dissagrees"? I think it also DISAGREES with YOU!
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Anonymous, 19 Aug 2013 @ 6:52pm

Re:
Well, Traci Lords' porn movies carry copyright statements and dates...or so I've heard.
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 6:58pm

Re:
My guess? The reason is equal parts of "because copyright" and "go fuck yourself".
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 8:22pm

Hey guys there's nothing to worry about because it's for the children.

Wait..? What?
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 9:28pm

Re: So bad it's intentional?
If UFC/IP Arrow claims to own these files and no one else comes forward to counter that claim UFC/IP Arrow gets to be responsible or the criminality in these files. That strikes me as a fair compromise. I just wonder who should go up the river for being the child pornographer of record.

It may not be the crime they committed but it is good enough to get them serving time for falsely claiming a copy right interest.
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horse with no name, 19 Aug 2013 @ 9:36pm

The explaination is easy
Actually, the explaination is easy. If you go to nowtorrents, each page has multiple listings on it. So as an example, searching for "japanese tube8 com" (one of their hot searches at the moment) brings up a number of music choices such as Weezer, King Diamond, and many others.

So basically, if the UFC comes up on these search pages, then the pages would get reported.

Further down, there is also a related "popular searches" which may have linked to UFC material.

The problem here is that you didn't look and didn't take a moment to understand what is going on, just fast to judgement. Perhaps you should be more concerned that this torrent site appears to be a great place to get child porn.
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 10:05pm

Re: Re: Re:
This is just a troll post, they don't have access to anything. If they did they would have provided a way to get in contact with them immediately.
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Aug 2013 @ 10:18pm

I'm thinking these companies get paid by their clients for successful removals.
So these IP protection companies they just send of a bunch of links to infringing or illegal content for removal to Google, with some from their actual client mixed in. They then report back to their clients that this many links were successfully removed.
Their clients then look at the report from Google showing how many links were removed, then they get paid accordingly.
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any moose cow word, 19 Aug 2013 @ 11:27pm

Re:
Yep, no censorship happening here...
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Ninja (profile), 20 Aug 2013 @ 3:21am

Re: Re: I've taught you all to recognize anomalies!
A million times that. Although I'm more in line with some sort of attribution protection right now. It's inevitable that copyright will be distorted and turned into another monster by the industry even if we scrap it and start over I fear. The fool-proof solution would be to abolish it.

However, with much greater Public Domain incentives, better fair use protections (including socially accepted behaviors such as file sharing) and proper punishment for abuses it could workout for sure.
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Shon Gale, 20 Aug 2013 @ 4:31am

I am hurrying to Lynda.com, now maybe they'll get some traffic and maybe even some business. Sex sells! Beautiful scam! Put out some bogus DMCA's with links to porn and some blog writes about it to let everyone know where they are and voila you have a web site with people actually going to it.
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Descendant on John Proctor, 20 Aug 2013 @ 5:38am

Re: Re: I've taught you all to recognize anomalies!
"Eeza-beeza-biz-bazza"

Be careful, if you say that five times in front of a mirror on a full moon ootb will jump out and snatch your flash drives.
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Anonymous Coward, 20 Aug 2013 @ 5:43am

Re:
Thanks for pointing out what I overlooked, now I need a new monitor.

Note to self, never drink and read TechDirt again.
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Anonymous Coward, 20 Aug 2013 @ 7:09am

They just admitted they owned these pictures. Give them the benefit of the doubt in their assertions. Arrest the executives and let the courts decide if they are truly involved in this or not. There should most definitely be arrests! That would send such a clear message to copyright holders. Bogus DMCA claims can cause you to be suspect of some very horrific charges so beware what you swear you own. Since they did swear, under oath, that they owned these pictures, this should really be an open and shut case for prosecutors.
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Anonymous Coward, 20 Aug 2013 @ 7:16am

Re: Re:
No, it doesn't. It just say a person in his or her teens or a person between the ages of 13 and 19 inclusive . Children are not mention anywhere.
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Anonymous Coward, 20 Aug 2013 @ 7:18am

Re: Re: Re:
Read this.
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crade (profile), 20 Aug 2013 @ 10:11am

Re: Re: Re: Re:
There is nothing wrong with his interpretation of "teenager", it's "child" that he is wrong about. Look up child and you will see that it includes teenager. Child is a person between birth and full growth or a person below the age of majority.
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hopponit (profile), 20 Aug 2013 @ 11:44am

Okay. How about adding some wood to the fire? Give these results to some truly hard nosed/hard up for votes local prosecutors. Let them run with it and make fools of themselves and the companies that are paying for these guys. Being linked in public to child porn will 'probably' make some of these companies think for a moment before just signing up for these pecker-woods. Sad to say that it still wouldn't stop some of them.
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Alt0, 20 Aug 2013 @ 12:12pm

Re: Re:
The first link (to the actual site) is working again. FYI
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Anonymous, 20 Aug 2013 @ 3:07pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
So someone who is 18 or 19 is a child?
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John85851 (profile), 20 Aug 2013 @ 3:23pm

It's time for six strikes
Once again, the problem with the current DMCA procedure is that there's no punishment for wrong or bogus takedown claims. And even then, IP Arrow can simply say "that's what the client told us" and the client-company will say "We didn't tell IP Arrow to do that"... and no one's to blame!

I still like the idea of creating a six-strikes system against companies that file bogus takedown notices AND their "affiliates" that file claims on their behalf. I'd say to give them three strikes, but that's not needed when one takedown notice like this contains a lot more than six errors.
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Anonymous Coward, 20 Aug 2013 @ 4:42pm

Re: Re: I've taught you all to recognize anomalies!
Speak for yourself. I don't support copyright (aka copywrong).
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Anonymous Coward, 20 Aug 2013 @ 7:05pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
Medical Dictionary

child (chīld)
n.

A person between birth and puberty.

An unborn infant; a fetus.

An infant; a baby.

One who is childish or immature.

A son or daughter; an offspring.
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Anonymous Coward, 20 Aug 2013 @ 8:11pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
So someone who is 18 or 19 is a child

In the US, depending on the state, yes.

http://www.lawserver.com/law/articles/age-of-majority

(Note: In Mississippi, it's 21)
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Anonymous Coward, 26 Aug 2013 @ 3:05pm

All in favor of a criminal case against IP arrow's clients for either possession of child porn, or presenting a false affidavit? Possession for holding the copyright to it.
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rob (profile), 26 Sep 2013 @ 4:30am

The DMCA copyright vendor for UFC has done an incredible disservice because they should have responded to media requests. I don't want to make this a commercial for dmca solutions but if their vendor doesn't do hand verfications, they fall into the category doing more harm than good. We reached out to the UFC as well but did not hear a reply so we hope this situation isn't a black eye on an entire copyright protection industry because dmca solutions does it the right way while many others don't.
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