Intellectual Ventures' Evil Knows No Bounds: Buys Patent AmEx Donated For Public Good... And Starts Suing
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Intellectual Ventures may be running out of cash, but that doesn't mean it's slowed down the pace of evildoing. If you look over its recent lawsuits, you'll notice that over the summer, Intellectual Ventures was busy suing a bunch of banks, including Capital One (that lawsuit is embedded below). At least some of those lawsuits involve US patent 6,182,894 entitled: "Systems and methods for authorizing a transaction card." In short, it basically describes the concept of the CID or CVV number that is found on the back of most credit cards today, which you often have to enter when purchasing stuff online with a credit card. Now, we may question how the hell the idea of adding 3 numbers to the back of a card as a security measure should be patented in the first place, but let's leave that aside for a moment.Instead, let's go back a bit to look at the history of this patent, and a man named Bernard Bilski. As you may recall, Bilski was involved in what appeared to be a key lawsuit concerning the ability to patent software. Eventually, the Supreme Court gave a very narrow ruling on the issue that didn't provide very much clarity at all on the question of software patents. However, go back a little bit further, to one of the Bilski appeals, heard by CAFC. Lots of different players on all sides of the patent debate lined up to supply amicus (friend of the court) briefs. One of them was American Express, who (somewhat ridiculously) argued in favor of software and business method patents. And, in a bit of news that is rather important here, it happens to use patent 6,182,894 as an example of why these kinds of patents are so important, wherein it gives us a history of that patent up until 2007 or so. It talks about the importance of CID/CVV numbers for credit card security and fraud reduction, and then notes the following:
Recognizing the value of this fraud reduction process to not only the financial services community, but also to the individual consumer, American Express donated the ’894 patent to the not-for-profit corporation Consumer and Merchant Awareness Foundation ("CMAF"). According to the CMAF, the core objective of CMAF is the cultivation and encouragement of responsible, proven practices that sustain and build consumer and merchant confidence in the financial services marketplace. The CMAF seeks to achieve this objective by raising awareness of best practices to protect consumers and merchants. The "CMAF views the ’894 Patent as an asset that should be used to help fulfill its mission." As owner of the ’894 patent, the CMAF can license the process disclosed in the ’894 patent throughout the financial services industry. If patent protection had not been available to drive the initial innovation costs, this method may not have been developed or made available to the CMAF to advance the process industry-wide. CMAF, which is currently developing its licensing policy, states that it is committed to refrain from actions that will result in enforcement of intellectual property against issuers, acquirers, merchants or consumers related to activity in the retail financial services and payment areas. As a result of this policy and its licensing efforts, CMAF will make this important fraud-prevention technology available throughout the financial services industry.Those quotes are from CMAF's website. As a quick aside, I'll note that AmEx's argument here is totally nonsensical. If AmEx was planning to donate the details of this patent to a non-profit and make sure that any card issuer could use it... then what's the patent for? AmEx could have just as easily publicly released a description of the concept or tried to create a standard or something. There's absolutely no reason for a patent since the only thing a patent lets you do is exclude others. The idea that you'd need a patent to come up with this... only to then donate it to a non-profit that promises not to enforce the patent against anyone in the space just doesn't make any sense. You don't need a patent for that.
And, actually, the end result here shows why patents like this are bad. Because even after AmEx got the patent and donated it, and after CMAF flat out promised not to enforce the patent against banks, that's exactly what's happening now -- thanks to the pure evil of Intellectual Ventures. The record shows that, in June of 2009, the patent changed hands from CMAF to an organization called Losipial Wireless, who has been identified as an Intellectual Ventures shell company. And then, just this past May, right before IV started suing banks over this patent, Losipial assigned the patent directly to Intellectual Ventures. And then Intellectual Ventures started suing. So you have a situation where even when the original patent holder donated the patent for "the public good," sooner or later, an obnoxious patent troll like IV comes along and turns it into a weapon.
Again: AmEx patented those little numbers on your credit card, and then for the good of the industry and consumer protection donated the patent to a non-profit, who promised not to enforce the patent against banks... and then proceeded to sell the patent to Intellectual Ventures who is now suing banks over it.
What I haven't yet been able to figure out is what happened to CMAF itself. The website still exists, though it's pure brochureware, and there's little info on the site. If you poke around, the page with the description of the patent still exists (even though AmEx cited the wrong link in its brief). If CMAF sold off the patent in 2009, you'd think somewhere in the intervening 4 years, someone would think to take down the page about that patent -- if anyone actually worked at CMAF. I've sent them two separate emails, but never heard back. It's worth noting that American Express has a deal with Intellectual Ventures. I'm sure AmEx also got a nice tax deduction for "donating" the patent to CMAF (CMAF's website plays up that there are tax benefits to donating patents to it). And then IV gets to still sue a bunch of AmEx competitors over the patent AmEx insisted it was donating for the good of the public... Nice trick.
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Filed Under: anti-fraud, cid, credit cards, cvv, fraud, patents, security
Companies: american express, capital one, cmaf, consumer and merchant awareness foundation, intellectual ventures, losipial wireless
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Promisary Estoppel?
Basically, you can rely on a promise that a previous owner made that would insulate you from legal liability.
Once upon a time AT&T licensed it's proprietary Unix system. AT&T publicly promised that if you made modifications to the source code, those modifications were yours and did not belong to AT&T. Later, SCO claims that it owns Unix (later proven false) and SCO sues IBM for taking IBM's modifications to Unix and distributing them for free as part of Linux. IBM had relied upon AT&T's earlier promise. It does not matter the chain of ownership that led to SCO owning Unix (which it did not actually even own). IBM could invoke Promisary Estoppel. (IBM had lots of other defenses, including that SCO did not own Unix.)
IANAL. Just remembering all of the insightful and educational information from the early days of Groklaw.
Now if the inventor of a patented subject had donated the patent to a non profit with the express purpose of preventing banks from being sued over the patented subject matter, then shouldn't banks now be able to rely on that earlier assurance?
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Re: Promisary Estoppel?
If you could not rely on Promissory Estoppel, then Intellectual Vultures could engage in a new business model!
Party A gets a patent. Party A promises not to sue and widely publishes the patent, and especially convinces open source projects to practice the trivial, ridiculous and never-should-have-been-patented subject matter. Later, Party A sells patent to Intellectual Vultures, who then sues everyone. While the one suing over the patent (Intellectual Vultures) can no longer hide it's identity, both Intellectual Vultures and Party A might be able to sufficiently disguise the identity of Party A, which in reality is just an Intellectual Vultures shell.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Promissory+Estoppel
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CMAF?
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The patent system as such isn't broken: corporatists use it.
"patents like this" -- There's your problem. -- Now, college boy, where are your specific terms for eliminating useless and trivial patents? For many years, you've touted alleged expertise and ranted about mis-uses, but where are your bullet points outlining what's good about patents and should be preserved, or how to bring bad corporate actors under control? Kibitzer.
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The other patents are bad, too
7664701 - Masking private billing data by assigning other billing data to use in commerce with businesses
7603382 - Advanced internet interface providing user display access of customized webpages
8083167 - Administration of financial accounts
7260587 - Method for organizing digital images
In other words, it's a suit over absurd "business method on the internet" patents, with the '894 patent thrown in as icing on the cake.
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Now I sorta understand
What I don't understand about Linux coders is that they don't have the same trepidation about Java, when Oracle has already sued over Java technology. If anyone knows, feel free to explain...
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Re: The patent system as such isn't broken: corporatists use it.
You seem to post that every time there's a story about patents. And yet you ignore that Mike has posted exactly that. Multiple times.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110819/14021115603/so-how-do-we-fix-patent-system.shtml
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121127/11245721156/some-thoughts-fixing-problems-patent-system. shtml
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120712/18322919680/judge-posner-mission-to-fix-patents-we- have-some-suggestions.shtml
Can you at least admit that you're wrong about claiming he's never made suggestions? I doubt it.
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Re: The patent system as such isn't broken: corporatists use it.
RTFW* Blue!
Search Techdirt for the words "patent" & "fix"
*Read The Fucking Website
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Re: Re: The patent system as such isn't broken: corporatists use it.
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Re: Now I sorta understand
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Re: Now I sorta understand
In fact, I seem to recall that Microsoft had been asked to make such a promise if that is what they actually meant, and Microsoft refused to do so. Therefore, I would, as others did, see this as a trap. A trap that nobody fell into thanks to the bright light that illuminated the danger.
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Re: Promisary Estoppel?
You still need to pay all the high-priced lawyers to argue that in court.
If the settlement costs less than the lawyers, there's not many businesses willing to pay more than they need to.
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Re: The patent system as such isn't broken: corporatists use it.
You wrote that Mike criticized IV and the patent system "without quite admitting the possibility that AmEx too is a bad actor". You'd have to be an idiot to miss this:
"I'll note that AmEx's argument here is totally nonsensical... I'm sure AmEx also got a nice tax deduction for "donating" the patent to CMAF (CMAF's website plays up that there are tax benefits to donating patents to it). And then IV gets to still sue a bunch of AmEx competitors over the patent AmEx insisted it was donating for the good of the public... Nice trick."
And, PS, I recall that AmEx, at least years back, was a paying client of Techdirt expert insight, but Mike still criticizes them openly. It speaks to integrity. You could never spot integrity, because you can't get past the hurdle of understanding language.
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Re: CMAF?
It's offices are listed at the same address as its (presumed) lawyers, K&L Gates. Too bad Amex isn't on their client list :P
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Re: Now I sorta understand
That's easy to understand. Microsoft has a long history of lying, cheating, and stealing -- particularly when it comes to All Things Linux. Microsoft is a bad actor and can never be trusted.
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Was donation legitimately deducted?
From faqs.org at http://ow.ly/24RRmZ :
Employer Identification Number (EIN): 320085922
Name of Organization Consumer And Merchant Awareness Foundation
In Care of Name: American Express Company
Deductibility: Contributions are deductible
Exempt Organization Status: Organization terminating its private foundation status under section 507(b)(1)(B) of the Code
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Re: Was donation legitimately deducted?
Something really smells about that. Donate a patent to a nonprofit you control (and get a tax break), have the nonprofit tell everyone they won't be enforcing it, then 5-6 years later have the nonprofit sell the patent to IV, IV sues your competitors who used the patent they were told they could use.
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Re: Re: Now I sorta understand
Many Linux developers concluded that they just couldn't really be sure what MS was actually promising, nor how binding those promises really would prove to be, if the FOSS/Linux community actually tried to rely on them. Others simply concluded that the "promises", "commitments" and pronouncements which MS made regarding its patents related to Mono, were in the final analysis limited to such a narrow scope, that they weren't actually useful.
(Some developers really liked Mono, so much, that because of that they just didn't want to accept such pessimistic perspectives, and chose to reject such interpretations despite the evidence. Also, certain actors in the Mono camp deliberately muddied the waters, as well).
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Reason to Patent
reason to acquire a patent you don't intend to enforce: to preempt a
competitor or troll from doing so. Given the USPTO's irrational
interpretation of the concepts of obviousness and prior art, having a
patent may help in fending off subsequent attempts at patenting the same
thing.
That said, AmEx's amicus brief to the CAFC still makes no sense, because
no such defense would be necessary in the absence of business-process
patents, and their absence would be the best possible reassurance that
they could not be used to derail standards.
For the USPTO, this is a wonderful business model: they do a crappy
job, and thereby drum up more business!
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IV is panicking because they can't pay back their investors. They're going to sue and sue and sue until they get their returns up. They know the game well.
Just sayin',
IPTT
Disclaimer: Bill and Nathan aren't literally in bed together. That I know of.
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Amazed
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CMAF
The contact name given on their 2010 form (Dec. 1 2010 to Nov. 30 2011) is Jonathan M. Barron, an associate in New York at the law form of K&L Gates. His contact information, including his phone number, is at http://www.klgates.com/jonathan-m-barron/.
In that year they had revenues of $770 (sic), and expenses of $201,054. Part VIII of the form lists the organization's directors at that time. Near the end of the form under "Other Assets" they list "US Patent," "Patent Applications, "Domain Names," "Patent License," and "Trademarks" with a fair market value of $2,116,692.
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Response to: Anonymous Coward on Oct 8th, 2013 @ 12:04pm
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