Eric Holder Doesn't See Any Basis To Prosecute Glenn Greenwald... For Now
from the probably dept
It's not a complete promise, but in an interview with the Washington Post, Attorney General Eric Holder suggested that, while he disagrees with some of what Glenn Greenwald is doing, he still thinks it's legitimate journalism and he's not looking to prosecute him for anything related to the Ed Snowden NSA leaks:Holder indicated that the Justice Department is not planning to prosecute former Guardian reporter Glenn Greenwald, one of the journalists who received documents from Snowden and has written a series of stories based on the leaked material. Greenwald, an American citizen who lives in Brazil, has said he is reluctant to come to the U.S. because he fears detention and possible prosecution.That's not exactly a ringing endorsement of freedom of the press, nor is it probably enough to make Greenwald feel comfortable. There are enough caveats in those statements that I probably wouldn't trust it if I were Greenwald. As he noted in response to Holder's comments, just the fact that the question is out there shows how little the US government respects press freedom these days. Furthermore, he notes that Holder's statements are hardly reassuring as they're "caveat-riddled oral assertions."
“Unless information that has not come to my attention is presented to me, what I have indicated in my testimony before Congress is that any journalist who’s engaged in true journalistic activities is not going to be prosecuted by this Justice Department,” Holder said.
“I certainly don’t agree with what Greenwald has done,” Holder said. “In some ways, he blurs the line between advocate and journalist. But on the basis of what I know now, I’m not sure there is a basis for prosecution of Greenwald.”
Elsewhere in the interview, Holder notes that they're still looking to inform more defendants in criminal cases if warrantless data was used to arrest and prosecute them, and that he's still trying to get Snowden back from Russia -- something that seems unlikely to happen.
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And he will maintain that position...
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So expect Greenwald to be indicted any second now!
Hey, remember the "tons", or just today "200,000" pages, of really juicy stuff Snowden is said to have gotten out? Where am that? For a while we had surveillance on this country or that dribbled out -- I was promised dirt on Canada* six days ago! -- but that, yet again, is clearly implied once the overall scale is known, and where's any new even on that line? -- Why aren't the gatekeepers in a race with each other to push out more? Where did the competitive urge to publish first go? Why must we wait for Greenwald's book? How did his swell deal with Bezos just drop into his lap? -- Why are they even gate-keeping? Why not just dump all and let the public sort it out? How do they select material or know what might supposedly harm a gov't agent? And why would We The People care about the latter point? -- Where's the reaction from Congress? How much is cut from NSA budget or strictures applied? Who's been indicted for the known crimes? -- AND SO ON. More I look, the more questions arise.
I hate to be suspicious -- we all long for heroes who are fighting the Surveillance State -- but there's STILL nothing to this "leak" that's new to me. -- Google engineers claim they didn't know of NSA taps, but I did!
So I gotta conclude this is:
Masnicking: daily spurts of short and trivial traffic-generating items.
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[ * We all know the Canadians are up to something! I bet they're spying on our hockey teams and maple syrup industry!
NSA leaks on Canadian surveillance coming, Greenwald says
Last Updated: Nov 09, 2013 10:48 PM ET
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/nsa-leaks-on-canadian-surveillance-coming-greenwald-says-1.2421405
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Will someone please explain to me why a journalist can't ever be an advocate in order for there to even be a "line" to blur?
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I guess it depends upon whose pov you advocate.
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what about...
Miranda hasn't been prosecuted either, but he wasn't exactly free to travel across borders.
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Miranda was stopped in the UK, Eric is the US AG, and the two countries have different laws.
Speaking of Eric, the House nut jobs what to impeach him, lol
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Who do you think would be better the LAPD or the NYPD?
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For a long time there have been people wanting to rule the world, this is nothing new, recently they have been making progress. If they were as smart as they like to claim, they would not fear that which they do not control. Money may equal speech, but power does not equal intelligence.
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Not just some people, if Tears for Fears is to be believed...
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The "true journalistic" stuff is more legal speak that probably gives him space later to say that what Greenwald did wasn't "truly journalistic", so he can arrest him then. Just like Feinstein tried to pass a law that said only certain journalists are "true journalists", and only they deserve the protection of the Constitution.
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fixed that for ya, eric...
“Unless secret information that has not come to my attention is leaked to me, what I have indicated in my testimony before the world is that any politician who’s engaged in true traitorous activities is not going to be strung up by the 99%,” Guerrilla said.
“I certainly don’t agree with what Empire has done,” Guerrilla said. “In some ways, he blurs the line between human and psychopath. But on the basis of what I know now, I’m sure there is a basis for stringing up Holder.”
fucker...
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lol - nut jobs
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And your point Mr. Holder? At least someone has stepped up to be an "advocate" for American citizens since our duly elected members of Congress and the White House have completely abdicated their responsibilities to the Constitution and their constituents!
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Eric Holder
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From Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia: Cyrus Vance
Some other Cyrus Vance?
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Resign, Holder!!
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Remember: all of those were on record for perjury before congress, Holder himself multiple times.
They should be serving time in jail for that alone, not to mention leading organized crime syndicates using blackmail and extortion for getting financed by the general public without accountability, responsible for a huge part of the moral and financial collapse of the U.S.A.
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Glenn GREENWALD
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IE: simply telling the people what the state wants them to believe
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A Two-Faced Administration
a man who said the president needed to be more transparent...
until he became president, then the opposite happened...CIA renditions, drone strikes, Bin Laden assassinated, Guantanamo still open.
Holder can say whatever he wants...and those words are incredibly weak, too....but his actions and those of his approving boss speak much more loudly. Stay away, Glenn!
Glenn, if he wasn't going to arrest you, he would be talking about the hero you are. He would be apologizing for wanting to extradite Ed Snownden, delaying Miranda.
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That's the key phrase, isn't it?
I'm guessing the government decides who's a journalist and whether your writing is "true journalism" or "terrorism".
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That's the big difference between now and when I was growing up - they no longer even try to hide how corrupt and incompetent they are.
Check out his "too big to jail" statement re the bankers - this guy's list is quite long - makes most of the other corrupt AG's look like pikers. And oh, "Free Jon Corzine", you know, the guy who made 1.2 billion bucks go poof (with help from Jamie Dimon at JPM) and walked...no one ever even gave a thought to prosecuting someone who was a governor and a campaign bundler for the big zer-O.
Yes, Corzine stole $1.2 bil from account holders at his brokerage firm (largely farmers), admitted it...and is enjoying drinks on his island somewhere...too big to jail?
Knows where the bodies are buried, is more like it.
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