Cops And Schools Collide Again: School Fight Ends With Tased Teen In Medically-Induced Coma
from the routine-altercations-meet-routine-responses dept
Another incident that highlights the troubling aspects of placing cops in schools has surfaced. The sheriff's office's (which supplies the deputies to the school) story has changed several times in the space of few days, but the end result is inarguable: a 17-year-old student is in a medically-induced coma as the result of its officer's actions.
At one Texas high school, the use of a Taser by Randy McMillan, a sheriff’s deputy/school resource officer, on 17-year-old Noe Niño de Rivera has resulted in the student being put in a medically induced coma. The family has filed a lawsuit against McMillan, the school district, and the county, and alleges Rivera was tased after trying to break up a fight.According to the court documents, the teen was walking backwards from school officers who were trying to break up a fight when he was tased, falling backwards and suffering a brain hemorrhage. The sheriff's office maintains that the student acted aggressively and refused to back off when ordered to by officer Randy McMillan.
The narrative is cloudy, even when restricted to just the sheriff's office's statements. The original report of the incident on Nov. 20th said this:
A Bastrop County sheriff deputy assigned to Cedar Creek High School as a resource officer used a Taser on a 17-year-old student during a fight on Wednesday, according to officials.The next day, the office's statement added this:
The student and two other boys were involved in a fight in the hallway when the deputy used the stun gun on him, according to the Bastrop school district and Sissy Jones, a spokeswoman for the sheriff’s office.
A 17-year-old Cedar Creek High School student was acting aggressively before a Bastrop County sheriff’s deputy Tased the teen Wednesday, officials said Thursday.Thus making the deployment of the Taser more justifiable. But it also added this:
Sissy Jones, a spokeswoman for the Bastrop County sheriff’s office, said that two deputies who work at the Bastrop school district as resource officers were trying to stop a fight Wednesday between two female students in the high school’s hallway when the 17-year-old male student approached.The original report stated the tased student was involved in a fight with two other boys and the deputy. This new statement shows the student wasn't even involved in the fight and had only "approached" the scene.
The student tried to interfere with the deputies and didn’t listen to their commands, Jones said. “He looked as though he was ready to fight.”"Looked." This still doesn't explain the office's statement that the student was "aggressive" or the implication that he posed a threat to the officers.
The family's lawyer claims to have cell phone footage of the incident that contradicts the statements made by the officers.
"They're completely lying, they're completely lying because they're very worried about this officer being indicted for a criminal charge, which he should be," said attorney Adam Loewy, who is representing the family…Whatever this footage shows likely won't make an appearance until the case goes to trial, but it would seem the school itself should have footage of the incident. According to its parent's handbook, the school has cameras in use (p. 70).
"Noe was being a good Samaritan, a good citizen, he broke up the fight. Then there was some stoppage to everything, and he was standing there. You see these police officers go up to him and tase him," Loewy said.
For safety purposes, video and audio recording equipment is used to monitor student behavior, including on buses and in common areas on campus. Students will not be told when the equipment is being used.A "high school hallway" would presumably be a "common area." If there is footage, no one has made any mention of it. Even stranger, no one has even offered to review the recordings or even deny such footage exists.
The lawsuit would obviously limit the school from talking about the incident (as would the student's age), but the school issued nearly no statements in the days preceding the filing, other than its original joint statement with the sheriff's office (above) and this boilerplate isued on the day of the incident.
“The safety and security of all students is the number one priority at Cedar Creek High School and Bastrop ISD,” the district said in a statement. “When law enforcement officers intervene and take action, they do so based on their training and protocol, as they deem warranted.”The sheriff's office has gone on record as stating the student wasn't involved in the fight, but yet somehow, the uninvolved student is the one who was tased and hospitalized for nothing more than appearing "aggressive." Fights have occurred in schools as long as there have been schools, but only in recent years has it been assumed that only law enforcement officers are capable of handling combative students. When you use law enforcement officers to handle routine disciplinary problems, you greatly increase the odds of severe injuries. Officers have certain training and tools and applying them to situations that don't require severe responses puts LEOs in the awkward place of either doing nothing or approaching students as though they were dangerous, hardened criminals.
If this school had no "resource officers," it's nearly guaranteed that this situation would have ended with nothing more than routine disciplinary action, rather than with a 17-year-old in a coma and the filing of a federal lawsuit.
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a) Bad guys can be anywhere, they could be your neighbor, your uncle, you sons and daughters, the smiling guy/girl next door, and yes your nice police officer in blue.
b) Zero tolerance means zero everything and is an excuse that will be exploited by bad people in power to screw them.
c) People have good and bad moments, a person who almost never does anything wrong is still capable of anger and vindictiveness no less.
No it doesn't mean you shouldn't trust anyone, it does mean though that you should always, always check the information given by anyone and it doesn't matter if it is your own mother.
Who would think that a softly talking old lady would throw a cat in the garbage just for fun?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/25/mary-bale-cat-in-trash_n_693933.html
Who would thought that a grandaughter would viciously attack another person and send someone to the hospital?
Two Teenage Girls Beat Man on Subway, Sending Him to Hospital (2013)
AC TRANSIT BUS FIGHT I AM A MOTHERFUCKER (2010)
Those questions are rhetorical, people in general don't believe what doesn't fit their views but it is time to open our eyes, anyone can be a mother fucker.
AC Transit Bus Fight - Interview MICHAEL THE BLACK GUY THAT GOT BEAT UP - Epic Beard Man
That young fellow that tried to beat up the bearded man for a silly argument and is probably not a bad person, he was being stupid at that moment and let anger get the best of him, but he probably could have hurt the old guy which is not a flower but was the one that walked away from it, which is a miracle of the first order from the history of that bearded gentleman.
The problem is not that there are bad police officers the problem is that there are a concerted effort to hide such a fact and by proxy protect and enable that bad to spread.
Is not that occurs(bad cops) but how is dealt with(hiding it) that is a problem.
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That's why the pigs used a torture device on a student. They were just ensuring safety and security in the only way they're capable of -- since of course they're far too weak and cowardly to actually have a conversation.
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Which happens if a kid as much as talks back to a teacher, making a thick wall of bullshit in which no parent can penetrate on their own. imagine the proportions of school-administration legal gymnastics that must have occurred from a kid getting tasered for not picking up that can like a good prisoner.
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Getting legal help immediately is exactly the right thing to do after being hurt, illegally coerced, having one's rights violated, or being otherwise grievously fucked-with by these dangerous assholes.
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I can imagine that if I were the father of this boy that I would need some physical restraint. My attention would require the diversion and directing that attention at bringing down those that brought preventable harm by any means other than physical would be more appropriate and effective.
Tasers are deadly. Their deployment in these types of situations is cowardly. These are not the tools of protection and defense.
This prevalence of imposing submission in this "new" society is sickening.
There is accountability to be claimed here. Who got 'em?
That mother fucker should have been placed under arrest the second it was realized that child wasn't getting up.
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Nope pretty much I would be sitting at home furious looking for payback, call to lawyers on the very first day and looking to vent my pain and frustration to the lawyer as soon as possible.
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I assume the don't-tase-me-bro dept was shutdown due to it's staff beiein.medically induced comas
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This statement is probabilistically untrue. There is no possible way that every single LEO in this Sheriff's Department always intervenes and takes action based on their training and protocol. Are they robots? The "as they deem warranted" is the only thing that mitigates the absolutism of the statement, but "as they deem warranted" isn't proper justification for their conduct.
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Why are police tazing people in a school fight?
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I think the evidence will show that the officer recklessly endangered, and possibly killed, a young man who's only crime was being brown and getting in the way of a thug with too much power that lacked the brains to use it properly.
I will never trust a cop so long as they continue to cover up the crimes they commit with impunity. No cop that breaks the law deserves to be protected. I don't care how great they are and how much they've done, police should be held to a stricter standard than most because they have been trusted with the authority and safety of their community. Power goes hand-in-hand with accountability and responsibility. If you abuse it, you deserve to be held accountable for it. If you have it, you need to use it to protect the people, not force submission. Leave your ego at home; this isn't an arena to live out your power fantasies.
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Apparently that ruse is only for the masses.
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I am tired of these MF cops in these MF schools
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You know, for kids!
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Shoot Cops On Sight
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cops stay home
Then you can stop bitching about it.
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You are being overly generous. Cops will need to handle situations that don't require severe responses all the time whether they are in a school or not, there is no good reason they should not be equiped to handle "situations that don't require severe responses" (as well as situations that do of course). It's not like every time a cop makes an arrest they need to go and taze everyone nearby.
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Just a couple of points . . .
2. When defendant city or department or town starts talking, in the lawsuit, about cops making decisions based on training and experience and rules and predictability, the city or whatever is simply setting the stage for "even if the cop is bad, we had no way of knowing he was bad, 'cuz he was acting normal, so it's not our fault."
3. Do we know if the kid swooped in and stopped the fight by maybe grabbing and dragging out one of the fighters? And then didn't drop her when the cops told him to?
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Stop right where you are! You know the score, pal. You're not cop, you're little people!
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Oh, did I mention that the son was in the middle of committing an armed robbery and had the clerk at gun point? That doesn't matter, you know, the boy shouldn't get shot just because he had a gun to someone's head and was stealing the contents of the cash.
This is a typically one sided story where the family claims he was a "good boy" and wouldn't do that sort of thing, but then again, the cops didn't randomly select someone to Tase just for fun. You gotta figure there is more to the story than you are getting (or want to get, I think)
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but that's what you get in a country that has embraced the safety first hysteria and its extremes.
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There is a threat to student safety in that school
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