Yet Another Court Not Happy With A Prenda Lawyer
from the order-to-show-cause dept
It's been, what, a week or two since we had a story about a judge somewhere being pissed off at Prenda/AF Holdings? You may recall that, over in Georgia there was one of the many AF Holdings/Prenda cases that was a bit more bizarre (if you can believe it) than the others. That is, in part, because rather than having the usual Paul Duffy/Paul Hansmeier/John Steele triumvirate doing the laughably bad lawyering, you had something... worse. Back in the early days, Team Prenda would hire local lawyers to represent them, and down in Georgia they found themselves with quite a peach in Jacques Nazaire, a lawyer who advertised his willingness to pop into court on your behalf via Craigslist, matching the sort of "go get 'em" attitude that Team Prenda seemed to appreciate.This was yet another case where when the going got tough, AF Holdings/Prenda tried to turn tail and run by dismissing the case, but the defendant, in this case a guy named Rajesh Patel, fought back and sought sanctions from AF Holdings for the bogus lawsuit it had initially filed -- and the whole "forged" copyright assignment by Alan Cooper. Nazaire turned the whole thing into an ongoing circus. Soon after the fight over sanctions began in this case, Judge Wright in California famously issued his big ruling, calling out Team Prenda and AF Holdings for a variety of misdeeds. Patel's lawyer, Blair Chintella, sought to add that ruling to the record, leading Nazaire to bizarrely argue that the Judge in this case should ignore that California ruling because California recognizes gay marriage. Later, he tried again with a bizarre and nonsensical claim about hackers being after him. Then, he sought to file all future documents under seal because some of you people in our comments (yup, Techdirt comments were filed as a part of the case) said mean stuff about him and that was mean.
Throughout all of this, Chintella kept seeking additional evidence via discovery -- which Nazaire repeatedly appeared to ignore completely, or file nonsensical arguments why he wasn't going to comply. Elsewhere, though, Chintella was able to dig up a a series of recordings from GoDaddy customer service in which the same individual identified himself as John Steele, Alan Cooper and Mark Lutz in different calls. He also got Comcast to reveal that a key IP address that was presented in another case as being the IP address that uploaded the content in question, directly belonged to John Steele and Paul Hansmeier, further confirming that they were uploading their own works to file sharing sites (calling even further into question the legality of what they were doing with Prenda).
Oh, and Chintella sought to depose Mark Lutz, the purported head of AF Holdings, who simply didn't show up -- the start of a now repeating pattern of Lutz disappearing rather than showing up when required to by a court.
Still with documents flying back and forth, the judge eventually angrily told both sides to shut the hell up and to stop filing anything.
Having completed the other business he was working on, Judge William O'Kelley of the district court in Northern Georgia, has finally ruled in this case and he's still not at all pleased. He's clearly angry with both lawyers, but the majority of his anger is directed at Nazaire, whom he repeatedly upbraids for a variety of problematic actions. The end result is that he's clearly threatening sanctions, potentially against both lawyers, and will hold a hearing in which both lawyers will need to show cause why they should not be subject to such sanctions. But that's not all. He has also ordered Nazaire to produce the original copyright assignment allegedly signed by Alan Cooper, which is at the heart of this matter. O'Kelley does not appear at all interested in hearing any excuse for not showing up with the original. Among a variety of things he orders to happen for the hearing, the one bit he italicizes is the following:
Specifically, plaintiff must produce the original assignment agreement for inspection.Note the "must" in there. Somehow, I doubt that he's going to be satisfied.
The Judge is clearly unhappy about Mark Lutz not showing up, and finds Nazaire's excuses to be ridiculous:
Plaintiff’s excuses for Lutz’s failure to attend the deposition are beyond frivolous. Plaintiff’s “justification” for the failure of plaintiff’s managing member to attend his deposition is that Lutz “has been deposed before,” which plaintiff considers sufficient to conclude that “the defense wants Mr. Lutz to fly to Georgia by his own expense for the sole purpose of being humiliated.” ... (“Mr. Lutz has every reason not to appear at a deposition which may also be attend [sic] by individuals who follow a website named dietrolldie and which has identified him as a troll as well.”) (emphasis in original)). However, Lutz was never deposed in this case. The fact that this would not have been Lutz’s first deposition on his relationship to AF Holdings is irrelevant. The fact that there are individuals on the internet adverse to plaintiff’s litigation strategy is irrelevant. However, the court’s ability to address blatant and willful discovery violations is very relevant.He further notes that the law requires him to impose attorneys' fees in this situation, though he'll figure out how much after the show cause hearing. Of course, I'm wondering if Mark Lutz will ever make a reappearance. As we noted recently, while his signature showed up on a recent document, he still hasn't explained another one of his mysterious disappearances, which Team Prenda insisted he would explain.
The court finds that Lutz failed to attend a properly noticed deposition and that Lutz’s failure to attend was not justified. Rather than provide any meaningful explanation for Lutz’s failure, plaintiff offered bizarre tangents about how “any new deposition of Mr. Lutz or any interrogatories or any production responses will be sought solely for the purpose of providing a good laugh for” several websites.
While Judge O'Kelley makes it clear he's not interested in rehearing stories of Prenda/AF Holdings' actions elsewhere, he's solely focused on misconduct in this case, and he certainly suggests there's been a fair amount of that. Beyond calling out Nazaire for arguments that are "legally frivolous and generally incomprehensible," as well as "nothing more than disjointed assertions that are completely immaterial to the case," the judge has a long list of things he's concerned about and wants to hear Nazaire try to explain:
- Nazaire's failure to properly disclose everyone who had a financial interest in the matter
- Nazaire's potential failure to properly list all of the lawyers working on the case (earlier, the judge highlights that when Nazaire filed the complaint, he appeared to use Brett Gibbs' email and phone number.)
- Nazaire's "failing to make a reasonable inquiry into the facts and the law before filing this case."
- And also "whether Nazaire facilitated vexatious and frivolous litigation by maintaining a meritless suit, filing frivolous and unwarranted motions, and making frivolous and unwarranted objections to defendant's discovery requests."
The Judge also scolds Chintella for "a lack of familiarity with basic evidentiary and procedural rules" and also asks him to further explain the effort to crowdfund money to hold Lutz's deposition. Nazaire suggests this is sanctionable, and while O'Kelley seems unsure exactly what the problem is, he wants to hear Chintella's defense of this action.
Judge O'Kelley also adds the following "note of caution" which suggests he's not interested in any kinds of games, though given Prenda's history, they seem almost unable to avoid trying to play games. It will be a measure of incredible self-restraint for them to actually abide by the following:
In case this order did not adequately drive the point home earlier, the court is not pleased with how this litigation has progressed. Failure to attend the show cause hearing will not be well received. Failure to attend will result in severe sanctions and may result in referral to the State Bar of Georgia. Failure to directly address the court’s concerns will result in equally severe sanctions.Can't wait to see how that hearing turns out.
Notwithstanding this court’s prior order prohibiting the parties from filing additional motions, the parties may file a supplemental brief addressing the court’s concerns to the extent that the supplemental brief provides facts not already present in the record. The parties are strongly encouraged to bring any relevant evidence to the show cause hearing. Specifically, plaintiff must produce the original assignment agreement for inspection. If a party wishes to present testimony that it deems critical to its case, the party should be prepared to solicit that testimony through a live witness. The parties are on notice that they may not use affidavits as a means to circumvent cross examination.
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Filed Under: blair chintella, jacques nazaire, john steele, mark lutz, paul hansmeier, rajesh patel, william o'kelley
Companies: af holdings, prenda, prenda law
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"a week or two since?" -- Yeah, nowhere near long enough.
ZOMG! Yet another item on Prenda Law! A staple in the soporific "At The Bench" series. Mike sez (short version): "Wow. Wow. Wow. ... The story is gripping."
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130303/23353022182/prenda-law-sues-critics-defamation.s html
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Re: "a week or two since?" -- Yeah, nowhere near long enough.
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ouch
Even the Judge can see the bottom is in danger of falling out from under them...
Also, if they find a way to keep digging, I see the Devil making another trip down to Georgia... I doubt that one will be about fiddles.
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He was looking for a soul to steal
Hired this guy, Nazaire
Who started a lawsuit there
The defendant said my names Rajesh and it ain't no sin
To watch some porn right here, in my den
This frivolous crap I take head on
Trump your infringement for massive misconduct
Judge William O'Kelley, referee of this battle
Is starting to agree
That massive misconduct is what he sees
Demands to see the documents that might be fake
Pissed off at Prenda, might burn them on stakes.
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Patel owns two gas stations, which have wifi. the alleged actions took place on one of those IIRC. (its been ~9 months. Was in the motion to set aside the default)
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And of course Prenda's by-the-checklist response:
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Judge O'Kelley's held his judgeship since 1970 (appointed by Nixon) and was Chief Justice until he retired (and took senior status) in 96.
I don't think that would wash. I think he's actually one of the longest serving federal judges (I think 3 longest currently, and 15th overall)
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If they don't try something like this, I would be surprised unless Steele goes to give some of his whimsical testimony as to how he witnessed the agreement being signed.
Hmm now that I think about it, isn't this agreement signed by Alan Cooper? So didn't Steele say before that Lutz had signed it on Coopers behalf in the case that was before Judge Chen in N. Calif?
I could have swore something like that occurred, of course the Prenda gang could always have Duffy appear and do some of his brilliant court room maneuvers to try and sweet talk the Judge into why he is all upside down on this.
Should be interesting...Here Rico...Here boy! Dinner time!
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You'd think it'd be considered little different than the standard "send money to defense fund" things that will crop up for other cases. The only real difference being that they were offering to fund a specific portion of the defense, rather than the defense in general.
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Read the ruling
...you know it's going to be good.
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Well, I'll give Prenda this, they do seem to bring out the best and most hilarious in judges.
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Other gems include:
'Plaintiff spends several pages opining on professional rules and the events in this case with no discernible logic or purpose'.
'Plaintiff's response is so vacuous it barely constitutes a response.'
'The fact that this would not have been Lutz's first deposition on his relationship to AF Holdings is irrelevant. The fact that there are individuals on the internet adverse to plaintiff's litigation strategy is irrelevant. However, the court's ability to address blatant and willful discovery violations is very relevant.'
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What burden of proof (if any) does the judge need to issue sanctions?
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More like: a signed affidavit from his ISP that he suddenly stopped paying his bill.
C'mon man, something more than an online search would like totally require actual effort dude.
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Does Mark Lutz even exist?
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The following covers what could be Lutz's finest hour in a court-room(or an audition for a comedy sketch in the worst possible place, take your pick):
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121130/17100821190/copyright-troll-case-tossed-fraud-court- after-abbott-costello-worthy-hearing.shtml
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I'm not saying this is the case, but wouldn't it be funny. I'm sure various courts would find it amusing.
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Did anyone check to see if there have been any strange 'strings' attached to the clothes Lutz was wearing when he showed up in court, looked over to see if maybe Steele's mouth was slightly open any time Lutz was 'speaking'...
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Why is the phrase "on the internet" there? There are plenty of individuals adverse to plaintiff, and they use the internet to express that, but I'm sure they have reside in houses and work in offices.
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I think I said it before, and I will say it again...
You aren't very bright are you.
I feel for Blair, I think he let emotions win the day a couple times. I think everyone faced with the insanity coming out of the temple of Pretenda walks a tight edge of sanity and tries to keep it together.
I look forward to what comes out of GAND, my smiling avatar in more court docs entertains the hell out of me.
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Not going to be too hard to prove there were no professional standards violations.
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I think an interesting question going forward will be whether this scares off other attorneys from crowd sourcing, I really hope not given that these suits have expanded into poor performing movies/music/tv/etc and there are bound to be people who would like to support the falsely accused that fight back. IANAL, but I'm guessing that with this judge's seniority and reputation it would be a bad precedent if he issues sanctions based solely on that.
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I think the Judge would have preferred having the data to draw his own conclusions from, rather than having all of this paperwork from other courts and other cases dropped upon him.
It is the drawback to web Pretenda has spun around itself, all of these different threads that are connected but not everyone likes walking into a web.
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To quote Grandpa Simpson: That's a paddlin!
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Prenda Still Laggjng
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Another Prenda Recap
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Shari Duffy's advice of the day...
Be very strategic when making friends, especially in college. Pick ones from different parts of the country and different nationalities and those with large families if possible. Family gatherings where you invite yourself to their homes are always better with a crowd. Always offer to travel with them and encourage your parents to pay for it and use the "I need more culture and experience argument" to get those plane tickets paid for. Lastly, marry men older than you so that you have time to enjoy your friends later in life. Since women outlive men you can look forward to seeing them in your golden years. My best friend is slated to inherit a villa in Spain..so when I am old and grey we can tend to the vineyard and snicker at sunset.
Have a great Weekend!
s. duffy
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