Nintendo: Broader, Awful Anti-Piracy Measures Are Sure To Turn Our Fortunes Around!

from the save-the-princess-from-bad-policy dept

Nintendo isn't having quite as much fun as normal lately, the launch of their Wii-U console not being particularly well-received in the market, over-shadowed by the launch of much more powerful and compelling hardware by Sony and Microsoft. Nintendo recently slashed the company's original full-year Wii U sales forecast by nearly 70% to 2.8 million units. It's not all sour; Nintendo's 3DS unit has been a smashing success overall (at least according to my Animal Crossing animal friends), sales of the 3DS are up, and despite some piracy threats from recent flashcart advances, 3DS software sales are clicking right along, with Nintendo recently stating 2013 was a "record year" for both 3DS hardware and software sales, 3DS software sales in particular are up 45% year over year.

Still, low Wii-U sales leave Nintendo in a tough spot, forcing the game company into a bit of an existential crisis. What can possibly turn around the living room fortunes of one of the world's most-adored gaming companies? Developing better games? Better scrutiny of third-party game quality? Developing a less gimmicky home console with enough power to battle Sony and Microsoft while retaining Nintendo's unique charm? Leveraging the inexhaustible energy of your massive fanboy base to generate clean, renewable energy for years to come?

A large portion of Nintendo calories that could be directed to those pursuits are instead being directed at convincing the U.S government to pressure Brazil, China, Mexico and Spain into imposing tougher anti-piracy countermeasures. Nintendo informs the U.S. government they've suffered "heavy losses" in those countries, which should be encouraged to embrace blocking websites and turning ISPs into liable Internet content nannies (both things that have clearly worked so well up until now). According to Nintendo's letter to the U.S. government, 16% of all online piracy of Nintendo products traces back to Spain:
"Since so many illegal video games are downloaded in Spain from foreign-based cyberlockers, and accessed through cyberlinkers or P2P linking sites hosted outside Spain, the IPC must address this issue by authorizing the blocking of linking sites,” Nintendo writes."
Except that much of that Spanish content is hosted here in the States, where Nintendo hasn't made the same recommendations. Nintendo would also very much like it if the United States would "train" and "educate" the Spanish legal system on how to properly treat piracy (read: a swift and heavy fist entirely detached from an operational brain):
"The Spanish Government should work with the U.S. Government and rights holders to provide necessary IP training to Spanish prosecutors, judges and IPC officials, particularly focusing on Internet piracy and effective online investigation, prosecution, and adjudication of criminal copyright infringement on the Internet."
Which, again, should really be efficient since most of those sites are hosted in the United States, combined with the problem that these kinds of efforts don't work (or wind up impacting legitimate businesses and websites). My Animal Crossing animal friends go on at nauseating length about how instead of wasting energy on bad anti-piracy policy, Nintendo could instead focus that energy on better hardware and games (and perhaps a new fountain for the Animal Crossing town square) -- but what do they know.
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  • icon
    That One Guy (profile), 19 Feb 2014 @ 7:47am

    A pity

    I had been considering picking up the Wii U at some point, but with Nintendo refusing to admit that maybe they didn't quite think this console all the way through, or support it enough to really make people want to buy it, and instead shifting all the blame outward and trying to screw over everyone else with more, harsher laws... well, much like MS and Sony, I don't support companies that are anti-customer, so there goes that sale.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      PRMan, 20 Feb 2014 @ 1:17pm

      Re: A pity

      Actually, I bought my kids an old XBox 360 with a ton of games from a co-worker (sold the games we didn't want and got it free with about 10-11 games). I did this because the Wii U didn't have any good games out.

      But I also picked up Luigi U, Super Mario 3D World and Pikmin and my kids and I have been playing those ever since and the Xbox barely gets touched.

      So they are starting to turn it around with some great games, it's just taking time.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

      • icon
        silverscarcat (profile), 20 Feb 2014 @ 1:32pm

        Re: Re: A pity

        I'm waiting for Hyrule Heroes to come out, and I hear that Nintendo might have a new Metroid game coming down the line soon.

        link to this | view in chronology ]

    • icon
      John Fenderson (profile), 20 Feb 2014 @ 3:02pm

      Re: A pity

      Remember that Nintendo has always been anticonsumer. They were slapped down for the same type of abuse of monopoly position that Microsoft was, but before Microsoft.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Inkeyis, 20 Feb 2014 @ 7:00pm

      Re: A pity

      This is such a stupid comment. Of all three big companies, Nintendo is the one that offers backward compatibility, controls from the wii, used games, very little yet worthwhile paid downloadable content, QUALITY in most of there games, free online multiplayer, the cheapest console, ... The list goes on. To me they are really consumer friendly, and workplace friendly (they very rarely fire anybody) compared to the likes of ea. And your telling me your not going to try the wiiu (which I have and is truly amazing), just because they want to protect their copyrighted ideas. That's just sad

      link to this | view in chronology ]

      • icon
        That One Guy (profile), 20 Feb 2014 @ 7:46pm

        Re: Re: A pity

        When that 'protect[ing] their copyrighted ideas' involves getting the US to pressure other countries to act as copyright cops, and in manners that have been shown to be at best useless, then yeah, I kinda have a problem with it.

        Also, just to clarify, this was more a 'final straw' thing, considering the Wii U has received fairly lukewarm reviews so far from what I've gathered, in large part because Nintendo put it together, pushed it out, yet didn't think to really support it with games or stuff to take advantage of the tech.

        link to this | view in chronology ]

      • icon
        John Fenderson (profile), 21 Feb 2014 @ 6:16am

        Re: Re: A pity

        Why is the comment stupid? When Nintendo was the biggest dog on the block, they were telling retailers that they couldn't carry Nintendo games if they carried the games of competitors, and got slapped down for it.

        That's as anti-consumer as it can get.

        link to this | view in chronology ]

        • icon
          That One Guy (profile), 21 Feb 2014 @ 7:24am

          Re: Re: Re: A pity

          Wait, seriously? Wow, must have happened before I really got into gaming, had not heard that one before. Glad they got slapped down for it.

          link to this | view in chronology ]

          • icon
            John Fenderson (profile), 21 Feb 2014 @ 9:21am

            Re: Re: Re: Re: A pity

            This was in the late '80s (when Nintendo had more than 80% of the gaming market.) In Europe, it resulted in one of the largest fines the European Commission ever issued. In the US it was going down the same road, but Nintendo backed down to avoid being punished.

            link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 20 Feb 2014 @ 8:49pm

      Re: A pity

      ya i was thinking about it for my kid, now..no, just no

      link to this | view in chronology ]

  • icon
    silverscarcat (profile), 19 Feb 2014 @ 7:51am

    So...

    Has the 2DS/3DS been jailbroken yet?

    I'd like to play some Japanese games without buying a Japanese system.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • icon
      Mega1987 (profile), 19 Feb 2014 @ 8:37am

      Re: So...

      Same here.....

      even an emulator will do

      link to this | view in chronology ]

    • icon
      Karl Bode (profile), 20 Feb 2014 @ 10:54am

      Re: So...

      I think pirates have had some recent luck with the Gateway flashcart, but it doesn't work on any of the newer firmware updates and I don't think it's as easy as some of the flashcarts were for the DSi. As such overall I think 3DS piracy is still lower that it was with previous incarnations. Sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Michael, 20 Feb 2014 @ 11:09am

      Re: So...

      Agreed, it is very handy to do something like take the US rom of Disgaea and patch in the Japanese sounds which should have been included as an option...

      The reverse is also true for fan-ports of games not yet released in the US.


      Region locking is repugnant and evil. Similarly tying licenses to an easily stolen device instead of an account identity (individual) is also repugnant and evil.


      If Nintendo would fix those above issues, maybe they could sell me a license to play games on a portable console I already own, namely my cell phone which has specs that whip those of most of their portable devices (aside from having only one screen, though higher resolution).

      link to this | view in chronology ]

  • icon
    Violynne (profile), 20 Feb 2014 @ 9:17am

    Mario is ashamed.

    Luigi is pissed.

    Peach is crying.

    Bowser... Bowser is so very, very happy right now. Finally, the world of Nintendo is starting to see he was the protagonist this entire time.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • icon
      silverscarcat (profile), 20 Feb 2014 @ 1:32pm

      Re:

      Actually...

      Legend of Zelda applies more...

      Gannondorf represents Nintendo (Power)
      Zelda represents the people Nintendo wants to work for them (politicians, devs, etc.)
      And Link represents the Pirates who keeps taking away Nintendo's ability to stop piracy.

      ...

      OMG!

      link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 20 Feb 2014 @ 11:15am

    what the hell is wrong with these idiots? here's another ex-Nintendo fan moving on! you can kiss my ass and me goodbye for good now!

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 20 Feb 2014 @ 11:19am

    funny how it's always 'work with law enforcement to stop people pirating'! there's no mention of anyone working with the customers to sort out what they want and what makes them 'pirate' stuff at the moment! these companies seem to think that the only changes that are needed are by the customers but never by the game and console makers. weird!

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 20 Feb 2014 @ 11:22am

    "Better scrutiny of third-party game quality?"

    Having some third party games would already help. Maybe a bit harsh but the reality is, there is no software library to make the console appealing.

    They can whine about piracy as much as they like, but the sad truth here is, for the WII U there isn't really anything to pirate to begin with.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 20 Feb 2014 @ 12:45pm

      Re:

      I was a big defender of the Gamecube and even the Wii due to the Resident Evil games and other good games made by third parties. This Wii u....just sucks...damn. The Nes and Snes had over 1000 games and of course, many of the great ones were Nintendo made, but not in all cases. This makes me sad. The Resident Evil Chronicles (and Dark Chronicles) games on Wii were really fun (and kinda made fun of its old franchises....wow we can blast locked doors open with a shotgun now) with the Wii Zapper. There is nothing compelling on the Wii u, except for the Mario game (are they even making a REAL NEW Zelda for it?) but that's not enough incentive to buy it just for that.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

      • identicon
        Lurker Keith, 20 Feb 2014 @ 3:46pm

        Re: Re:

        When they revealed Hyrule Warriors, they said it was not the new Zelda most Zelda fans have been aware is in development (this is why I have a Wii U). A few things I heard for it are they're considering going back to an open world, but are trying to work out how to do a story that way as well; they're considering what the graphics will be like; & I think that huge spider-boss we saw a while ago may be in it.

        Also, when X, Bayonetta 2 & Smash Bros. release, that will help w/ sales.

        Something that may have hurt sales was the Watch_Dogs delay.

        link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 20 Feb 2014 @ 11:35am

    Wait, has wii u been cracked yet? I'm pretty sure it hasn't

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 20 Feb 2014 @ 11:50am

      Re:

      not as far as I know. but then, what to crack it for?

      link to this | view in chronology ]

      • identicon
        Anonymous Coward, 20 Feb 2014 @ 12:11pm

        Re: Re:

        There are homebrewers that release stuff for it. They had figured out how to exploit a bug using the game Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess on the original Wii that would allow you to install a homebrew channel on it. Among other things that homebrewers have made, there have been many unofficial ports of classic games that you could play on the Wii once you had.

        http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Twilight_Hack

        link to this | view in chronology ]

      • identicon
        Anonymous Coward, 20 Feb 2014 @ 12:19pm

        Re: Re:

        Pikmin 3, eventually smash bros 4 Mario stuff and ummmm... nothing

        link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 20 Feb 2014 @ 11:48am

    One download is not a lost sale.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 20 Feb 2014 @ 12:06pm

    Or here is a novel idea...

    Why not learn a little something from history and go the other way? Remember how popular the PS3 was when people found out that you could install Linux on it allowing you to do all kinds of different things with it that they never Sony never dreamed of. There were even people who had no interest in playing games that bought them strictly because of this. Of course that was before Sony stuck their head back up their ass and yanked the functionality in a later update. Or learn for id Software's little experiment with releasing Quake with an open console that allowed people to freely develop mods for the game turning it into one of the biggest successful releases of all time, generating free R&D for the company to be used in later stunningly successful releases as well as dynamically expanding the viability window from what at the time was approximately 6 months that gamers would continue to play a game to several years that they would still had a viable product on the market. Nintendo could simply open up the Wii ecosystem and embrace those homebrewers and they would likely regain a huge competitive advantage even with inferior hardware. The units would likely start flying off the shelves when people found out it was open and new cool things started coming out for it from sources that they wouldn't have to spend a dime on. But no that would make too much sense. They will never do that.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 20 Feb 2014 @ 12:16pm

    Who elected the US government as the representatives of all copyright dependent industries, regardless of their domicile.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Kronomex, 20 Feb 2014 @ 1:34pm

      Re:

      The corporations have had control of the government for years. Who else can give the two major parties the donations they greedily accept?

      link to this | view in chronology ]

    • icon
      Jay (profile), 21 Feb 2014 @ 2:25pm

      Re:

      No grocery store copyrights were harmed in the pursuit of Nintendo's "misdirected" profits.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 20 Feb 2014 @ 12:16pm

    Who elected the US government as the representatives of all copyright dependent industries, regardless of their domicile?

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Jake, 20 Feb 2014 @ 12:47pm

    I think Nintendo's problem is that they don't realise -or maybe don't to realise- that games consoles as we have understood the term until recently may not be around much longer. Why buy a separate device just for games when you can spend not a lot more money on one that can also double as a DVD/Blu-Ray player, stream from Netflix and let you check your Facebook page?

    And the same goes for whatever they replace the 3DS with; they won't be competing with a descendant of the PSP, they'll be competing with the iPhone and the various Android tablets. And I dare say Nintendo could crowbar its way into a market that Apple and Google have got pretty much sewn up at the moment if they put their minds to it, but if they
    don't put their minds to it now they're going to have a rude shock in five years or so.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 20 Feb 2014 @ 12:52pm

      Re:

      There is a Netflix app you can get on the original Wii. I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a Facebook one too.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

      • identicon
        Lurker Keith, 20 Feb 2014 @ 3:53pm

        Re: Re:

        The Wii U comes w/ a Netflix app installed already. Along w/ Hulu Plus & some other streaming stuff I haven't used.

        It also has a pre-installed YouTube App, which I do use to watch some YouTube videos on my TV.

        The Wii U also has a browser, but I don't know it's capabilities (I've heard it doesn't like Flash). I have a computer for internet access.

        link to this | view in chronology ]

    • icon
      crade (profile), 20 Feb 2014 @ 2:04pm

      Re:

      lol, this is what microsoft wants people to think anyway. They act like unlocking running netflix is innovation. Personally I think consoles aren't going to be around much longer because people are going to realize they are just PCs with more DRM restrictions on them. As it is the only thing holding them up is that certain software is specially locked to only run on them.
      Unlocking netflix and a browser on your console is hardly something people are going to cheer about. Once someone makes a decent couch friendly interface for PC that catches on, consoles are 100% useless.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

      • identicon
        Anonymous Coward, 20 Feb 2014 @ 2:28pm

        Re: Re:

        I disagree. When tablets first came out, I didn't think they would be that successful since you are kind of limited in what you can do with them compared to what you can do with a laptop for the same price. The reason why consoles are successful is the same reason tablets are successful, they are appliances that are easy to use and are good at what they are good at the tasks they are designed for. What I see as their demise is when their functionality gets absorbed into another appliances functionality, in much the same way that GPS functionality has been absorbed into smart phones, such that GPS devices are really no longer necessary. I see something like the Apple TV or an Android TV where games can be purchased from the App Stores and downloaded directly to the TV with no need to have a separate console.

        link to this | view in chronology ]

        • icon
          crade (profile), 20 Feb 2014 @ 2:33pm

          Re: Re: Re:

          A tablet is limited because it's lighter and cheaper hardware, Consoles need the same powerful graphics functionality that PCs do and are literally PCs with restrictions added to prevent you from using non gaming functionality.

          link to this | view in chronology ]

          • icon
            crade (profile), 20 Feb 2014 @ 2:35pm

            Re: Re: Re: Re:

            In other words, they aren't dumbed down, cheaper PCs like a tablet is, they are full fledged regular PCs with most of the functionality locked out through software.

            link to this | view in chronology ]

            • identicon
              Anonymous Coward, 20 Feb 2014 @ 2:44pm

              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

              Tablets aren't so much dumbed down as they are specialized systems optimized for portability by being designed to be handheld and run off of an enclosed battery. That specialization is what I am referring to as an appliance.

              link to this | view in chronology ]

              • identicon
                Anonymous Coward, 20 Feb 2014 @ 2:47pm

                Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

                And consoles for the most part are also an appliance designed predominantly for gaming. Sure they can often be hacked to do other things but they are really designed with that in mind. PC's are really designed to pretty much be generic computers that can do whatever you want to make them do.

                link to this | view in chronology ]

                • icon
                  crade (profile), 20 Feb 2014 @ 3:03pm

                  Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

                  PC hardware has moved faster than any custom hardware the console manufacturers would have previously made. Consoles are now literally straight PCs. All the generic functionality is there, they just don't let you use it.

                  link to this | view in chronology ]

                  • icon
                    Jeremy2020 (profile), 20 Feb 2014 @ 3:34pm

                    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

                    I think gaming oriented operating systems on PC in the living room is the future, but consoles are not just PCs slapped into a box.

                    There is a lot of development that goes into creating an environment for those systems and making tools for developers to use by the console makers.

                    link to this | view in chronology ]

          • identicon
            Anonymous Coward, 20 Feb 2014 @ 2:39pm

            Re: Re: Re: Re:

            Actually most consoles traditionally haven't had more powerful hardware than PCs, however because they have fixed hardware specs the code can be written in specific ways, like writing specific code for the GPU directly, that optimize performance. When you have to code something to run on machines that could have many different components made by many different manufacturers interpreted by software drivers that have to be installed, you can't do that sort of thing.

            link to this | view in chronology ]

            • icon
              crade (profile), 20 Feb 2014 @ 2:54pm

              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

              I never said they were more powerful, they are just regular full fledged PCs with most functionality locked through software. There absolutely is nothing wrong with standardizing a run of PCs, thats entirely a seperate thing. Standardizing absolutely will make things easier, although honestly they aren't, we have too many competing standards anyway and everything is made general so it will run on multiplatforms.

              Standardizing is not the issue at all, it's just that taking PC hardware (standardized or not) and blocking people from using most software on it and pretending it's something different, and then pretending you are innovating by adding back in some of the functionality that you blocked is just insulting people's intelligence.

              link to this | view in chronology ]

              • identicon
                Anonymous Coward, 20 Feb 2014 @ 3:09pm

                Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

                For most people, buying a TV or a whatever appliance you want to use as an example, they care predominately about 2 things other than price and durability: 1. Does it do what they bought it to do well? 2. Is it easy to use? Sure if it has added features that they find useful then that's a bonus, but most of them aren't really concerned with whether it COULD be used for something else but can't because that functionality was disabled by the manufacturer. Most people don't care. That's one of the reasons so many of them buy Apple products and put up with Apple's walled garden. They don't care as long as it does what they bought it to do.

                link to this | view in chronology ]

                • icon
                  crade (profile), 20 Feb 2014 @ 3:30pm

                  Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

                  Yes, that's true.. What I think the issue is going to be going forward is that PC hardware progress is slowing down tremendously. If these people are like me, they probably already have a PC that can easily do everything these consoles can anyway, and as far as I can see, the actual value being added by the console above that of the PC you already have is becoming less and less. Really the only thing I see that a console adds to someone who already has a decent PC is a good interface that is usable from a gamepad, and that won't be the case for much longer. The exclusive software certainly helps them lock people in so they have no choice if they want certain titles, but how long are people going to continue making exclusive software for them if the value isn't there for consumers?

                  link to this | view in chronology ]

                  • identicon
                    Anonymous Coward, 20 Feb 2014 @ 5:17pm

                    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

                    I see a TV manufacturer, probably Samsung, integrating the necessary hardware with a customized version of Android to market a TV that has an integrated gaming console to compete with both console manufacturers and other TV manufacturers. That will be the beginning. The technology for this is already there.

                    link to this | view in chronology ]

                    • icon
                      John Fenderson (profile), 21 Feb 2014 @ 9:26am

                      Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

                      I doubt this, because I don't think it would be a popular seller. It's a bit like those TVs that include DVD players -- they aren't incredibly popular, because the pace of upgrades are different for TVs vs the things you hook up to TVs.

                      link to this | view in chronology ]

                      • identicon
                        Anonymous Coward, 21 Feb 2014 @ 4:48pm

                        Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

                        I would agree about that with regard to the "Smart TV" however, consoles are specifically designed to mirror the particularly long product lifespan of TVs so I could see a TV game console hybrid.

                        link to this | view in chronology ]

                        • icon
                          John Fenderson (profile), 22 Feb 2014 @ 7:59pm

                          Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

                          They are? All the console players I know upgrade their consoles a LOT more frequently than their TVs.

                          link to this | view in chronology ]

  • icon
    crade (profile), 20 Feb 2014 @ 1:43pm

    Whats 16% of the "who gives a shit, not very f-in much"?

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • icon
    rycho (profile), 20 Feb 2014 @ 3:31pm

    We're getting money from you...

    whether it's from sales or suits, you're gonna pay us.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • icon
    Coyne Tibbets (profile), 20 Feb 2014 @ 6:44pm

    More is always better

    If banging your thumb with the hammer hurts, do it more!

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • icon
    G Thompson (profile), 20 Feb 2014 @ 9:20pm

    So Nintendo Co., Ltd is a corporation of the United States now??

    wow.. have they told there investors yet or the Japanese government or even the Tokyo Stock exchange or all the people who work under Satoru Iwata in Kyoto?

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 21 Feb 2014 @ 6:21am

    So why dont they take these issues to the spanish government? Did they missed that part where the US stopped being the global superpower a decade ago? Or they just want to make the US look an asshole again?

    link to this | view in chronology ]


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