Spike Jonze Being Sued For 'Her' Over Generic Plot Similarities
from the idea-and-expression dept
The concept of the idea/expression dichotomy in copyright law has essentially served as a long-running joke. The concept is that you can't copyright a general idea or concept, only the specific expression an author develops. For instance, you might have the idea to write a story about a group of four friends traveling on a journey together, bonding and accomplishing tasks. That idea cannot be copyrighted, but the somewhat like expressions known as The Wizard of Oz and Stand By Me can. They're similar in only the most general ways, but both can coexist without the need of lawyers and suits. Unfortunately, we've seen example after example of this dichotomy being actively ignored in the more noble interest in making tons of money off of another person's expression. Some folks seem to think that they can own an idea.
Well, let's make room on that list of folks for Sachin Gadh and Jonathan Sender, who are suing Spike Jonze for his film Her, which they say he stole from them. Giving the story a bit of the old conspiratorial air is the fact that the writers originally pitched their screenplay, called Belv, to the same agency that represents Jonze. They were told at the time that the agency didn't accept unsolicited manuscripts (this is extremely common). So, what evidence do Gadh and Sender offer for the theft of their mind-gasms?
The legal papers stated, "In both 'Her' and 'Belv' the main character carries around the love interest in his front shirt pocket." It continued, "Both 'Her' and "Belv' examine the human psyche through interactions between the character and the computer." In addition to the two examples, the document also cited, "The main character in 'Her' is heartbroken after a failed relationship and seek solace in a computer. In 'Belv' a cell phone comes to life after a microwave mishap and becomes a witty wing man for dating."Let's take these in order. First, the example of where a character carries the device that contains the digital being that is his love interest is silly. I mean, if you had to depict someone carrying around technology with them, how would you do it? There's, like, five places where that can happen, assuming we don't want to get gross with this. As for both films examining the human psyche by interacting with a computer, take five seconds to count up how many films you could say did the exact same thing and see what your total is. I made it to four, including 2001: A Space Odyssey, The Matrix, S1m0one, and The Terminator. Then I mentally added the book I wrote three years ago, Digilife, to the equation because it's both a great example of the same concept and it serves as a wonderful reminder to all of you that you can buy it in the Insider Shop.
Finally, I'm at a complete loss as to why the authors decided to include that last bit that essentially describes how these films are totally different. One involves a computer offering solace after a failed relationship, the other turns into a wingman after what I can only assume is an unfortunate microwave popcorn mishap. That's like comparing Eat, Pray, Love and Hitch. They aren't the same.
The point of all this is that some understanding must be reached that any similarities you might struggle to find between two expressions don't amount to copyright infringement. Even as some unfortunate rulings have been made in courts essentially protecting ideas like characters and settings, when you have to work this hard to liken two expressions, you don't have a case.
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Short Circuit
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Marked as funny.
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You can add Moon to the list...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek08KvgqFGM
They even used Georgio Morodo's awesome *cough* song "Together in Electric Dreams" (it's in your head forever now)
PS: Oh and Tim... you really need to work on your subliminal advertising :)
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You have disgraced yourself and this website. Turn in your badge and gun. You have twenty seconds to comply.
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And how about "Johnny Mnemonic"?
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Pretty soon we are gonna have WB making only quirky love comedies; Paramount making westerns; Universal making Sci-fi etc. and then the new kids in town gets the scrap. All because they are going to be afraid to tread inside another production company's "idea".
Piracy isn't destroying movie business... they are handling that pretty well themselves.
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Ok, well maybe not Screech, but the rest of them were.
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Hmm,
"Once upon a time, they lived happily ever after. The End" (C)
That should do it.
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http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130528/09321723228/piano-instructor-claims-copyright-writing-lett ers-piano-keys.shtml#c553
60 personal arrangements and transcriptions are a specific expression, not a general idea.
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Oh, shit!
https://archiveofourown.org/works/655012/chapters/1668159
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Gross images
This seems to be a case of mistaken definitions. Cell phones are totally different to smart phones. A cell phone doesn't have voice-activation, search functionality, or simulated sex apps - microwaved or not.
I'm surprised their legal claim didn't just say that Belv and Her both contain the letter E, which they clearly stole, so put a fork in it. Case closed.
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That's not even counting the possibilities in coat pockets and inside pockets and so on, of course. Or clipping something on to your belt (even if just a belt pouch), or "wearable computing" devices such as Google Glass, or...
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Product Placements
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Step 2: When a new book/movie comes out, sue them for copying you. (Sue a new murder mystery for having murder and a mystery)
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit!
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