UK Foreign Office Bars Public From Attending Conference On How It Will Finally Release Illegally-Withheld Public Records
from the taking-the-'public'-out-of-'public-records' dept
The UK has a rule that nearly all government documents become public after a certain time has elapsed. But last year, it was revealed that the UK's Foreign Office had failed to release a huge store of older documents -- over a million of them:
The Foreign Office has unlawfully hoarded more than a million files of historic documents that should have been declassified and handed over to the National Archives, the Guardian has discovered.
Now that it has been forced to admit that it holds all these records of great historical -- and often great political -- interest, the Foreign Office is making them public at last. But as The Guardian reports, it seems it still doesn't quite get what that means:
The files are being kept at a secret archive at a high-security government communications centre in Buckinghamshire, north of London, where they occupy mile after mile of shelving.
Most of the papers are many decades old -- some were created in the 19th century -- and document in fine detail British foreign relations throughout two world wars, the cold war, withdrawal from empire and entry into the common market.
They have been kept from public view in breach of the Public Records Acts, which requires that all government documents become public once they are 30 years old -- a term about to be reduced to 20 years -- unless the department has received permission from the lord chancellor to hold them for longer. The secret archive is also beyond the reach of the Freedom of Information Act.The UK Foreign Office is holding a conference to explain how it will finally place into the public domain millions of public records that it has unlawfully held for decades -- but is refusing to allow members of the public to attend.
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Sheer stupidity. The files will be public anyway. What are they expecting to hide? That they'll be using MS Access instead of a sturdy database system out of their own incompetence?
When a Government abuses secrecy it tends to generate such hilarious yet worrying situations.
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Electronic version will have to be created and cataloged by someone else, as the sturdy database is heavy duty shelving.
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The entire archive is to be printed and scanned by a private company to get it into an electronic format suitable for public release.
The scanned versions shall be considered derivative works with copyrights held by the private company.
The private company agrees to not permit public release of their copyrighted works until the copyrights have expired.
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Re: but with US law, this couldn't happen
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Just as hotdog makers don't want you to see how it is made, because then you would never buy and eat it.
Governments don't want you to see how government policy is made, because then you (and other countries they lie to on a daily basis) would never trust it.
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"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."
I add to that something I think Mark Twain would have added:
"And that is how politicians get elected, and re-elected."
If history repeats itself, I believe we're doomed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ux3DKxxFoM
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The problem is that when good people are elected, they are faced with a choice: stay pure and noble and be completely ineffective or play the corrupt game and be able to do at least some good along with the bad.
The problem is the system itself is corrupt.
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I agree. Too bad that most politicians are nothing more than puppets on strings, and automatically without question dance at their so-called "benefactors" behest.
As history has shown, even the little good a politician may have been lucky enough to get done, gets bastardized by some other puppets down the road, and nothing can be done to fix that... unless you get your own puppets elected.
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Its a Family Affair
Only the families of the criminals/politicians/business leaders, who are referred to in these documents need attend, along with their checkbooks.
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