Texas Grand Jury's Use Of A 'Shooting Simulator' Questioned After Police Cleared In Every Shooting Incident Over The Last Decade
from the to-acquit-a-cop,-you've-got-to-think-like-a-cop dept
We've discussed the multiple problems with the grand jury system here in the US -- a system that only survives in a handful of states. Grand juries are known both for their expedience and their willingness to indict nearly anyone for anything. True, they don't decide whether a person is guilty or innocent, but an indictment is the next best thing to a verdict for those indicted, many of which are imprisoned until they can be properly tried.
The grand jury in Harris County, Texas has an additional tool at its disposal, one not in use anywhere else in the state.
The armed carjacker projected on a large screen threatens to kill you if you don't give up your keys. Holding a modified gun that emits a beam, you pull the trigger when he draws his weapon, and seconds later fire again at another person who jumps in front with something in his hand.This shooting simulator (which appears to be "Mad Dog McCree: Law Enforcement Edition," at least according to the published photo and the description above) puts grand jury members in the shoes of accused police officers. Grand juries may be able to indict ham sandwiches, but this particular grand jury has reached the conclusion that, despite derogatory slang linking the two, police officers are not ham sandwiches.
The second person turns out to be a bystander holding a cellphone.
This interactive way of illustrating the use of deadly force is part of unusual training that Houston-area grand jurors can receive before they begin hearing cases, including those involving police officers.
[A]n investigation by the Houston Chronicle last year found that Harris County grand juries have cleared Houston police officers in shootings 288 consecutive times since 2004.Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any data on the simulator's effect on non-police shooting indictments. That the cops have been cleared 288 times without an indictment may not have as much to do with the shooting simulator's empathetic capabilities as it has to do with the grand jury being a grand jury.
Sandra Guerra Thompson, a criminal law professor at the University of Houston Law Center, said grand juries usually give officers the benefit of the doubt in shooting cases because of the dangerous nature of their jobs.The problem is that the more this benefit of a doubt is given, the less likely it is that officers will use training or restraint when in unsafe situations. If a teen answers the door carrying a Wii remote, they're free to open fire before ascertaining that the held item isn't a weapon. Harris County's shooting simulator plays into that mindset, inserting jurors as proxy cops into situations they're not trained to handle and using those visceral reactions to guide their indictment decisions.
So far, the courts have sided with the use of the simulator. The DA's office finds it to be "educational and helpful." Opponents say it promotes "pro-law enforcement bias." Sadly, these viewpoints aren't contradictory. Most DAs would find anything that locks "bad guys" up and keeps "good guys" on the street "helpful." A "pro-law enforcement bias" achieves these aims. And the track record -- 288 consecutive findings in favor of police officers -- speaks for itself.
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I'll say it again: It's Texas
Its reputation has proceeded it for decades.
Don't believe me? Say "East Texas" in a public crowd and watch the business owners cower in fear and the attorneys battle to the death.
It's quite fun.
So, to me, this tidbit is not surprising nor is it upsetting. I know it should be, but there you go.
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This is one of many reasons why...
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They may be Republicans, but they are damn sure not honorable conservatives.
Now, if Ted Cruz becomes 'guvna', then maybe I consider this?
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But I think we should keep Austin. Perhaps we could disassemble the city brick-by-brick and relocate it to someplace in need of an artistic and musical influx, like, hmmm, Iowa. Or West Virginia.
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Anything based on SELFISHNESS is doomed to fail because selfishness is NOT a virtue. Self-reliance, yes. Self-sufficiency, yes. Self-determination, yes. But institutional narcissism to the extent that many Americans wonder why people hate us for trampling all over them? Hell, no.
Cruz, Romney, Christie... they're all about policies that make the rich richer, the poor poorer, and the rest of us suspicious of each other.
The Dems, who have their snouts in the corporate trough, are no better. Choose a third party that isn't a fringe break-away from one of the main parties. /End rant.
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Is an armed carjacking perpetrated by a man in his twenties the same thing as a 93 year old woman handling a weapon in her home?
Yeah - everything is big in Texas, including the bullshit.
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Benefit of the doubt then needs to run in both directions
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Moving on, a huge problem with the scenario outlined in the article is that police officers are supposed to be trained in these situations. Someone unable to get out of grand jury duty is going to have an increased adrenaline flow, faster heart rate, confusion, extra fear, etc. in a situation that a police officer is supposed to know how to handle. If the grand jury is basing it's assessment of the situation on their reaction, their standard is way off.
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Alternate explanation?
It is funny, for paranoid people, evidence that contradicts their beliefs is used as PROOF for them.
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Your statement, both before, and after the 'changes' I made to it, is accurate, however, only one group gets special treatment when they gun/beat someone down, either accidentally or on purpose, and it's certainly isn't the general public.
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http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131212/15041325552/canadian-cop-puts-impromptu-clinic-how- to-deal-with-critics-cameras.shtml
Give the guy a break, he's telling the truth, damn it.
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Conservative in Texas here...
However it is true that my state collectively rushed to suck Bush's dick over the creation of DHS and 9/11 BS.
I expect this State to be overrun by illegals within the next couple of decades though and when Texas falls, the rest of the nation will be harmed by it as well because we have a very diverse economic footprint.
Looks like between the cowardly conservative Bush dick suckers and destroy the USA liberals... yea we are in for a war.
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That you will not state here as it's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're stupid instead of opening your mouth and proving it. Except you kept talking and ended up sounding like a raging lunatic.
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It's funny that people from Texas so often spout crap like this and yet, so far, not a single one of them has been able to support that assertion. Can you?
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Maybe we presume too much
So why is this happening? Could it be a predictable financial collapse is just around the corner? A constitutional rewriting or circumvention that will create too many pesky patriots that will need to be dealt with? Could it be just a well intentioned government preparing for the worst by creating atmosphere of fear and intimidation? The bottom line is that it's not just Texas, this is being encourage on a national level and the spotlight we notice happens to be on Texas this time.
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Empathy
On the other hand, LEOs should be held to a higher standard than your average citizen. Comparing the reaction of a well trained LEO who sees danger DAILY to the reaction of an average citizen who might see danger once in a lifetime is simply absurd.
I think showing the jurors a video of LEO training that explains how they are trained to identify good vs bad in the heat of the moment would be a much better way to put the jurors in the shoes of a LEO.
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Equally and unbiased
In fact, ideally the jurors shouldn't be told the accused is a cop at any time during the process, let their actions stand on their own, without allowing them to hide behind their badges.
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how about a REVERSE simulator for cop-killers?
I bet that the conviction rate would change from 100% to 0% overnight.
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