Did Comcast's Infamous Customer Service Call Open The Company Up To Legal Troubles For Lying About Speeds?
from the questions-to-ponder... dept
So, last week, that customer service call between Ryan Block and a Comcast "retention specialist" who refused to take "cancel the damn service" for an answer went viral. Comcast has since apologized, said it was investigating, and insisted that the call was "not consistent with how we train our customer service representatives." I doubt many people actually believe that -- but it may be even more serious than most people realize.That's because, throughout the call, the nameless representative keeps insisting that Comcast's broadband is the fastest. And that's not true. Which raises some potentially serious questions about Comcast directly misleading customers.
“You’re not interested in the fastest Internet in the country?” the rep asked goadingly. “Why not?”IBTimes asked a Comcast PR person, who insisted that the company does not claim to be the fastest internet in the country, nor does it train its reps to make that claim. But it's undeniable that the guy said exactly that many, many times during the call, and it sure sounded like it was coming from a script that he'd read pretty damn often. The report also notes that the guy repeatedly called Comcast the "number 1 rated" provider, but that's equally questionable. IBTimes did call up pretending to be a potential customer and couldn't get any other reps to repeat the "fastest internet in the country" line -- suggesting that it might not be on a script -- but it is worth noting that they were talking to a different type of rep. Block was being handled by special "customer retention" specialists -- so it might be more interesting to see if those guys have that line in their script. Though, at this point, I'd imagine Comcast has pretty carefully scrubbed those scripts.
Were it true, it would be a convincing bit of rhetoric. The problem is, Comcast is not the fastest Internet service provider in the United States -- at least, not according to the most recent survey from Speedtest.net and PC Magazine. Published in September 2013, the survey ranks Comcast the third fastest broadband provider, behind Midcontinent Communications at No. 2 and Verizon FiOS at No. 1. “Verizon FiOS continues to set the pace for Internet speed in the United States,” the magazine wrote.
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Since when...
I mean... you cannot find a since person in America not previously screwed by a lying corporation looking to lock you into a contract.
Yes, I know it is technically illegal for a company to misrepresent their products, but shit... this is so damn commonplace that no one cares anymore!
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I meant to add at the bottom... justice and privilege are for those with the money to afford them or fight for them, rights don't really exist.
I think, after this about of abuse from lying ass companies getting flat away with all of that lying, the government is clearly a paid whore for big business.
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The trick is to avoid lying so big that the government gets interested in investigating. This viral phone call is big enough.
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I have long become a... believe it when I see it person. This being a prime example... at most something of a dog and pony show will happen to appease the masses while the regulators finish receiving a fresh round of blow jobs by the industry.
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sure, you, me, any of the 99% 'lie', and we end up in jail or tasered to death; but the 1% ? they skate off with their pockets filled with our gold...
the 'laws' mean NOTHING without the impartial enforcement...
2. which gets to the point of when is a 'lie' a 'lie', and when is it dismissed as mere 'puffery' ? ? ?
in practice, the 1% can tell ANY egregious lie they want, and it will be defined out of existence...
thus, "Up To 50 Mbs!", etc, may not technically be a 'lie', but it has NO MEANING...
hell, back in the day when we were on 330 baud connections, the ISP *could* have said "Up To 1 Zillion Gps!" and get away with it... IT HAS NO MEANING...
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It seems like everyone these days is in the fraud business, from airlines (selling more seats on a flight than they have available) to ISPs (promising speed and connectivity and not delivering as promised) to insurance companies (selling contracts requiring them to pay out under certain circumstances, and then doing everything possible to avoid paying out when a claim is filed.) It's about time We The People start pushing back and saying "no, you don't get to weasel out of things. Keep your word or go out of business and let someone who can actually do the job right take over."
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It is obviously lying, but I don't know if it rises to the level of fraud.
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This leads me to ponder: If a corporation can be enough of a "person" to have free speech rights, why is it not enough of a "person" to be criminally liable?
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Just like how chlamydia is the number 1 rated STD!
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Comcast and Reddit AMA - at the same time?
That is some clever multitasking, or perhaps you have minions chained in your basement creating articles? ;)
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Re: Comcast and Reddit AMA - at the same time?
I'm pretty sure that Techdirt has article queue that releases the articles at certain intervals.
That's what the Crystal Ball feature for the Insiders is all about - you get to see the stories in the queue before they are published to everyone else.
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Trade secret.
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"legal troubles"
Comcast does not have legal troubles, my friend.
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Mockup?
Could this be made up?
Guess what happens if it is...
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Now I'm in the city and using Comcast and their reps aren't much better, either incompetent idiots from call centers over seas that barely speak english or if you're lucky you get the same thing in the USA, but they still promise all kinds of things and barely deliver on any of it if at all. So it's no surprise to hear that guy make all those false claims cause Comcast knows not a damn thing will happen, they've all been doing it forever and nothing ever happens.
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If Job Hunting was like Advertising.......
"I can work upto 5 days a week"
(my friend just reminded me, I have never worked a union job or help public office.)
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The Electric Company Does It Too:
At any rate, when I contacted the local electric company to sort out the service change, they connected me to a "relocation specialist," who turned out to be a high-pressure salesman for cable television and/or satellite dishes. It doesn't matter which you want, he gets his commission either way.
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"We never said they were the fastest speeds in the country, just the fastest speeds available!" *wink wink*
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Their TV commercials lie, too
That works out to about 1.6 Gbps (assuming 8 gigabits per gigabyte). Yet the fastest service Comcast offers is something like 105 Mbps.
Seems like false advertising to me. Wish I could find a recorded version of it to call them out.
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Don't blink, or you'll miss it.
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fastest
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Puffery
If you pay over a million dollars for an ad campaign that misleads is that "puffery".
These people know what triggers buying. Anything that influences buying (or retaining services) should be considered a material fact.
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