Rep. Mike Rogers Now Claims Ed Snowden Should Be Charged With Murder, Because Someone Might Die
from the of-whom? dept
Things have been kind of quiet on the "ridiculous statements from Rep. Mike Rogers" front lately, but as he's entering his final months in Congress before retiring to the warm embrace of national talk radio, he's apparently decided to ramp back up with the ridiculous rhetoric. His latest salvo is to argue that the US should be charging Ed Snowden with murder:Republican Mike Rogers, the chairman of the House of Representatives intelligence committee, told an meeting in the House of Commons in London on Tuesday evening that Snowden was a "traitor" who was now living in the "loving arms" of Russian spies.Uh, murder of whom, exactly? As far as I can tell, his argument is that because of Snowden's actions, soldiers are less safe and might get killed, and thus, murder.
"The [US] government has pressed charges on Mr Snowden," he said. "We are treating him, as I would argue, the traitor that he is." Rogers added: "And by the way, and this is important, I would charge him for murder."
"He took information that allows force protection, not only for British soldiers, but for US soldiers, and made it more difficult for us to track those activities. Meaning it is more likely that one of those soldiers is going to get their legs blown off or killed because of his actions," he said. "Anybody that provides information to the enemy is a traitor, period, pure and simple."Except, no. Almost none of that is even close to accurate. Snowden didn't "provide information to the enemy" -- he blew the whistle on illegal programs by revealing it to the public via well-respected reporters who, you know, won the Pulitzer Prize for their reporting. Unless Rogers views the American public as "the enemy" his argument makes no sense. Furthermore, what information has Snowden provided that means a soldier is somehow more likely to get his legs blown off or killed? So far, all of the revelations have been about surveillance programs that have raised serious legal and constitutional questions, but have done little to actually "help" terrorists. That's because most terrorists were well aware of the surveillance capabilities of the NSA/GCHQ before. The new stuff is how the NSA uses that on everyone else.
Meanwhile, if doing things that might lead to more soldiers getting hurt or killed makes you guilty of murder, shouldn't Rogers be talking about getting himself and other members of Congress charged with murder? After all, remember it was Congress that failed to equip soldiers with proper body armor.
Rogers also repeats his "Snowden was working for the Russians all along" argument that he's particularly fond of. He does this despite the fact that basically everyone, including officials from both the NSA and the FBI, has said they've found no evidence to support such an argument.
Rogers also repeats the claim that Snowden handed over lots of other material that is dangerous:
Rogers said that "over 95%" of the information Snowden handed over had "nothing to do" with the NSA spying on American or European citizens private communications but was "about tactical things, military plans and operations".However, again, this is based on the old DOD report that listed everything that Snowden ever "touched." Snowden, Greenwald and others who have seen the documents have noted -- multiple times -- that the number of documents he actually handed over was much lower than what that report claimed (in the tens of thousands of documents, rather than 1.7 million as the report claimed). Furthermore, the fact that no reports have come out "about tactical things, military plans and operations" certainly seems to support that fact, no matter what Rogers wants to claim.
Now that he's moving to a medium where nutty conspiracy theorists thrive, I imagine Rogers may get even nuttier. But, at the very least, he won't be in charge of "oversight" (stop laughing) of the NSA any more.
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His actions?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty damn sure the entire middle Eastern conflict has a great deal to do with the fact our government decided to illegally ship arms to our current enemies.
Snowden wasn't even born.
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Now we have a way to legally remove Government officials
Your own actions and inactions have caused hundreds to die you filthy murderer.
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illegal wars, secret prisons, secret laws, and all the rest of the 1984 package he screamed bloody murder for, but *snowden* is the cause of amerika's problems ? ? ? fuck him...
no, how about the STUPID, SHITTY decisions, scaremongering, ILLEGAL wars, UNCONSTITUTIONAL spooking up of our country, that HE and the rest of the *REAL* TRAITORS have perpetrated upon the planet; THAT is approx a zillion times more responsible for this sad state of affairs we find ourselves in, rather than the TRUE PATRIOTISM of the snowdens, mannings, kiriakous, etc...
i'd like to throw a necktie party for that loudmouthed jerk, a REAL TRAITOR to the constitution; UNLIKE those who braved a corrupted, immoral gummint to *try* and inform us sheeple what is really up with their eee-vil machinations, he does NOTHING to defend the constitution...
a *REAL* murderer, a *REAL* traitor, and a *REAL* scumbag, ignorant sack of shit, and *HE* dares to call for the arrest of those few patriots who push back against the likes of complicit scum like him ? ? ?
fuck him sideways with a pineapple...
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it is really difficult to not laugh...
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Driven crazy by his rage
It seems clear to me that Rogers is so enraged that he's just lost his nut.
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It's also possible he's just bullshitting. Meaning he doesn't know or care whether what he's saying is true or not, he's just saying these things to further some sort of agenda.
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How serendipitous
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Exhibit A. How the fuck is someone like Mike Rogers allowed anywhere near the complicated machinery of government? Doing so is like handing a hyperactive five-year-old a can of Red Bull and plunking them down in front of the controls of a nuclear power plant.
"[..] I imagine Rogers may get even nuttier."
I don't see how: he's already quite clearly clinically insane.
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The only people now capable of being elected are people so squeaky clean that only the psychotic qualify. Who in their lives hasn't made mistakes that would be cannon fodder for an opposing political campaign?
Given the cost of even House campaigns, only the politically connected are going to be capable. Sure a few 'normal' people will get in but will be wildly outnumbered by the crazy train passengers.
So we have politically connected psychotics as the only group left running for office.
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But he didn't run because he's too smart.
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But, what I really wanted to say was thank you for spelling "shoo-in" correctly. That's rare enough that it's worth pointing out.
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There is a great point that piqued my interest. It's annoying when people lose their ability to toe the line on these things, and it happens a lot. We shouldn't just give them free rein because then it has an effect on everyone, and pretty soon, low and behold, they're not caring about correct usage of the language any more. If they think it's OK, they have another think coming. I'm sure you're in agreement for all intents and purposes, and I'm waiting with bated breath to see if anyone else chimes in too.
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Wait. Perhaps I am unclear on this whole concept.
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Military plans and operations
Anyone else have another idea of who we'd pin a murder wrap to?
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Not to set off a flame war or anything, I hope, but does he consider himself liberal, conservative, or none of the above? Just curious, because it seems to me that perceptions of Snowden often fall along partisan lines.
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Rogers did not mis-speak:
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Karma
That's odd, because I would charge Mike Rogers with making false criminal charges.
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Why yes, that IS important. It's important for us to know that you would charge someone with murder who has not murdered anyone.
Hopefully the people in your district will take their blinders off and elect someone else.
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Mike Rogers is leaving office after his current term is up to make a move into talk radio.
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They should probably do an eval on those who elected him in the first place, but there is the old addage: "The lesser of two evils".
If this is the lesser, I don't want to know what the other guy would've been like.
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Fodder for the Daily Show is another animal.
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Moron.
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Hmmmmm
Obama = Nobel Peace Prize
Enjoy
Barrack
Obama's
Legacy
America
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Greetings.
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Congress should charge themselves with murder, find themselves guilty, and execute themselves.
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Response to: Just Another Anonymous Troll on Oct 22nd, 2014 @ 9:13am
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Yeah, unfortunately, in the mass of people...
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Oh and don't forget mail fraud, a federal offense, he probably knew about Cisco products being intercepted and modified.
And just wait till he has his show. We can then charge him with the disorderly conduct because of the FUD he will probably spout off causing panic.
Course these arguments only work if you follow his logic.
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figures
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We the people are the enemy and traitors, as the information was provided to us all
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Accomplices?
Then I have to wonder, has Rogers ever voted for a bill that was unconstitutional, and when enforced caused any fatalities?
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Murder
Not to mention Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld et al for starting these wars in the first place. He can't argue that didn't make it more likely soldiers would die.
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Psh. Everyone knows
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I would point out that, as the single largest producer of data -- including mapping, satellite, and statistical data of all sorts -- this meant the US government is a traitor in the eyes of this Congressman.
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I would challenge Mike Rogers to PROVE a single incident that resulted in the loss of life, based solely on the information Snowden leaked.
After all, if he's convinced that he should be charged with murder, then he MUST have something to back up such a statement.
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So?
DONT GO..
I thought we killed ENOUGH of those idiots? including AN eXTRA BONUS IDIOTS(AND DESTABILIZED A COUNTRY) And we have NEW idiots..(Which keep moving around and we cant locate)
How do you decide a DEATH is based on An action, related/unrelated?
And military info was stored on the machines he Copied data from? I HOPE NOT..
And anyone using windows THINKING they are protected from anything...needs to THINK harder. Thinking Cellphones are Secure, it TOTALLY stupid..and you cant change hardware Easily..
I also Love the idea that Someone thinks that the USA has the only SMART people.
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I can't wait for the Oprah episode: "You're getting a death penalty! And you're getting a death penalty! Everyone's getting a death penalty!"
Best episode of Oprah ever.
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In the arms
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