Middle School Principal Suspended Over Unannounced School Shooter Drill
from the not-enough dept
Listen up, everyone, because I think this is important and I'm very serious about this. The Florida middle school we recently discussed that conducted an unannounced active school shooter drill with armed police bursting into darkened classrooms full of terrified students and teachers has taken action. That action has been suspending the school's principal pending an investigation to be conducted by the school district.
"I very much regret that this occurred," Superintendent of Schools Kathryn LeRoy said Tuesday evening during a School Board meeting. LeRoy said Jewett Principal Jacquelyn Moore was suspended Tuesday pending an internal investigation. In the past, the School District has not informed students, parents or staff members in advance about lockdown drills. But LeRoy specified some new rules for the future.Let me be clear: this isn't enough. The issue of irrational overreaction to an exaggerated fear of school shootings runs far deeper than one principal, and her suspension should not be allowed to assuage the outrage and anger this story has generated. This cannot become a sweep-it-under-the-rug story. None of this has occurred in a vaccum, after all. We've seen examples of these kinds of insane drills in the past and we've recently covered stories about potential massive amounts of money going into systems designed for school shooting situations. And, damn it, I cannot repeat this enough: school shootings are incredibly rare, they are not increasing in frequency, and the average child is safer in their school than they are in most other places on Earth. In the face of the actual reality regarding school shootings and our reactions to them, a principal's suspension is not enough. It must only be the start. Because if it isn't, here's what you'll get from people like the aforementioned school Superintendent LeRoy.
From now on, she said, officers will not carry weapons during such practice; administrators should send a message to parents at the beginning of the drill and let students know a drill is taking place; and staff members should be on hand at the school entrance and answering phones to let callers know the lockdown is just a drill.What the hell is the matter with you people? I realize that for a politician or government official, or even someone in law enforcement, standing in front of a public whose fear has been stoked by a sensationalist and lazy mass media, telling them all to calm the hell down because they're getting worried over nothing isn't the popular thing to do. It isn't the politically expediant thing to do. But it would be the right thing to do. When that happens, you'll know things are actually getting better, and not before.
Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
Techdirt is one of the few remaining truly independent media outlets. We do not have a giant corporation behind us, and we rely heavily on our community to support us, in an age when advertisers are increasingly uninterested in sponsoring small, independent sites — especially a site like ours that is unwilling to pull punches in its reporting and analysis.
While other websites have resorted to paywalls, registration requirements, and increasingly annoying/intrusive advertising, we have always kept Techdirt open and available to anyone. But in order to continue doing so, we need your support. We offer a variety of ways for our readers to support us, from direct donations to special subscriptions and cool merchandise — and every little bit helps. Thank you.
–The Techdirt Team
Filed Under: drills, school shootings, schools
Reader Comments
Subscribe: RSS
View by: Time | Thread
Home of the Brave
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Every administration official of that specific school who knew about the drill beforehand needs to be suspended and possibly fired. If they step down of their own accord, all the better.
Every member of the school board what governs said school who knew about the drill beforehand needs to be fired. If they step down of their own accord, all the better.
Nothing short of punishments for everyone who was involved with this fiasco and decided not to inform parents or students (and possibly teachers) beforehand should be considered acceptable. This exercise put dozens of innocent lives at risk, turned a classroom into a place of fear and mistrust, and made everyone from the officers to the prinicpal look like fools.
This is not a situation where people need slaps on the wrist. This is a situation where people need to know that their decisions were unacceptable and shouldn’t ever be made again—and nothing short of showing that everyone is accountable for their actions will do that.
No one involved should walk away from this unscathed.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re:
Right?
[ link to this | view in thread ]
attitude change
Sadly, what is *really* needed is an attitude change. The police are meant to serve and protect the public. Ignoring the insane waste of tax payers money, police resources and the practicality of the whole exercise - and ignoring the school's involvement in all of this - what if, just what if, the police actually thought: "What are the implications of doing this going to be on those I am meant to protect and serve" .. instead of the usual "time to practice our terrorizing skills", "everything must be done to get the bad guys", "cops are above the law and we can do whatever we want", "terrosism FUD", "protect the children", "cool media coverage of us doing important things" kind of thinking.
Their attitude should reflect their policy - protect and serve first, get bad guys second.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: attitude change
There's actually a court ruling in the US that says police are not required, as part of their job, to protect the public.
I really wish that were something out of The Onion, too.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
The police in this are no friggin' different. Send in the SWAT team to serve a warrant because you know, there aren't any hostage situations they can use them with. None of this is doing anything but stoking fears unnecessarily to justify the use of force.
You have these insane ideas, like the school cafeteria having to meet these stupid calorie criteria in order to qualify for federal assistance. Giving out meals that don't supply enough calories to feed hungry children so they leave school and go tank up on crap food cause they are not getting enough at school. Or the idea little Johnny has to be suspended because he chewed his pizza slice into something vaguely looking like a gun.
This whole era has gone stark raving loony crazy and that is what you are teaching the children. As one other said here, fire the damn batch of them that had anything to do with insane idea. Better make damn sure that anyone else with this idea in the state finds the same treatment waiting on them. Sanity has to be restored and it appears it needs to start at the very top of government and work it's way down, or at the bottom and work it's way up.
A serious attitude change is needed, indeed.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re:
Personally, any cop who thinks pointing a gun, loaded or not, at anyone they don't plan on shooting, is a good or even acceptable idea, is not someone I want involved or employed in any sort of official capacity.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: Re:
Wasn't the teachers involved. If this is what passes for staff approved activities, I think others can be found with at least a modicum of common sense that seems so lacking today in many areas. With jobs being as hard to find as they are today, with so many racking up student debt just to compete in the job market for part time minimum wage, I believe replacements would not be that difficult to find.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: Re:
[ link to this | view in thread ]
At least two people shot on Florida State University campus
“At least two people shot on Florida State University campus”, by Ryan Parker, Los Angeles Times, Nov 19, 2014 (10:32pm PST)
[ link to this | view in thread ]
And then she should have resigned and called for the rest of the board to do the same because they are not qualified to be in charge of a cheese sandwich.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Let's try an example. Say a police cadet must respond to an armed target. The target, only 15 meters away, will pop up. The target may or may not be armed, and the cadet has 10 seconds to evaluate the threat, and if armed, draw his weapon, fire and shoot the target. If he fails, the target will shoot and kill the cadet. For a gimme, the cadet is not penalized if he shoots an unarmed target.
The chief can do this quite well. Always seems to down appropriate targets within 2 seconds. Rookies who have recently graduated from the academy seem to do well enough. There is almost never a mis-identification, and about the only time it takes more than 5 seconds is when there is a misfire, or other unlikely situation like dropping the pistol as it catches on a belt buckle.
But the cadets? some do okay. Enough die, however.
Why? Because they haven't been trained. As suggested, this is a practice situation, not a training situation. Many of these recruits have never fired a pistol before. None of these recruits have been trained before.
I did not train them on how to prepare their weapon before hand. I did not tell them in training whether their pieces should be loaded before hand or not. (Protip: they should be loaded for this scenario). I didn't not train them what discerning markings or features to look for in order to evaluate whether the target is armed or not. I didn't train them how to unbuckle their holster. I didn't train them to know where the safety is. I didn't train them how to aim. I didn't train them to hold the pistol parallel to the horizon -- nor any other method. I didn't train them to put a round in the chamber. I didn't train them to ensure their fingers are clear of the slide so that they don't lose any digits when the slide slams back. I didn't train them how to fire a second shot.
Now, I cannot imagine anyone saying that training someone how to take the safety off has to be performed under the stress of almost real engagement. Yes, the cadet will eventually reach the point where he must successful test under stress, but the journey from complete ignorance to fully trained (a.k.a. ready to be tested) is a progression of training.
This scenario of mine is not training. This is a test. You need to be trained before you can practice this test.
Those that die in this scenario prove that this was not training. After all, they are not trained; they are dead.
Those students? Are they trained now, or are they traumatized? The School Shooter Drill was a test, it was not training.
*IF* such training for school student were to ever be implemented, it has to be by degrees. Perhaps *training* once a month for 8 months, then you can run your full *test* in the 9th month as a graduation send off.
But such drills under as real circumstances as possible are nonsensical to me. The kids are arguable being terrorized. You know, the terrorist only win if we live in fear. You are making the children live in fear by doing this training. You are the terrorist.
But if we are going to talk about this, please dismiss this myth -- this misnomer -- that "training must be done under real-life circumstances." No, training is something different entirely. Training is what you do so that you act appropriately when tested. Training is what you do BEFORE the test.
Training would ideally also decrease the amount of traumatizing stress a participator absorbs. The stress of real life combat situations, unfortunately, cannot be trained for. Simulating real life combat situations will always have the chance to mentally scar people.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
What the hell is the matter with you people?
Probably the best recent example of that was the school police force that acquired a grenade launcher. What possible use could a launcher for grenades have--what use could grenades have--that wouldn't be likely to do more harm to the kids than to an attacker?
At the rate we're going, pretty soon we'll see an announcement like this one:
No doubt, the strategy is that, if someone attacks the school, just set off the nuke and--Presto!--no attackers anymore.
The point is that we've reached the stage where the only thing that matters is the security theater and political points:
Hey look, we can get a humvee! We can be better than the school next door.
Hey look, we can get a grenade launcher! We can be better than the school next door.
Hey look, we can get a tank! We can be better than the school next door.
Hey look, we can get a drone! We can be better than the school next door.
Hey look, we can get a figher jet! We can be better than the school next door.
Hey look, we can get a 10-megaton nuclear weapon! We can be better than the school next door.
...and each time, that's where the thinking ends.
The risk in these school drills is horrible; that some kid will die of a panic attack, asthma, some other medical problem, a fall or other accident, or get shot is just petrifying.
But who cares, when we can make an impression on the locals and show how much better protectors we are than the school district next door?
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: Re:
But I don’t put that much faith in any police department to actually keep bad cops off the force for anything less than a major felony (and even then, that’s questionable).
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Lockdown Drill at Jewett Middle: School Officer Taken Off Resource Force
So yeah, this looks to be the end of any accountability for this—outside of potential lawsuits, anyway.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
School Shootings In The US Are NOT Incredibly Rare
New Zealand has never had a school shooting, in records going back over a hundred years. Not a single one.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Terrorism
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: School Shootings In The US Are NOT Incredibly Rare
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Thats a nice way to describe a corrupt group who pushes a political narrative.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: School Shootings In The US Are NOT Incredibly Rare
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Shout it out.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re:
Therefore you do not involve people without their consent, and you do not involve minors.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: School Shootings In The US Are NOT Incredibly Rare
As far as NZ not having any recorded school shooting deaths:
A. I don't believe that zero statistic and
B. Ignoring the obvious population and internal topology of the two countries is great if you want to boast about New Zealand but otherwise incredibly pointless...
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re:
[ link to this | view in thread ]
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: Re:
Right?
WRONG!
State certified and licensed teachers and staff will be in short supply, assuming they are fired and not rehired either at the same district or at another (which won't happen in the real world, but one can hope).
The number of people who have the potential to become very good teachers and staff is likely fairly close to identical to the number of people who are competent in their chosen field of endeavor, have common sense, and can communicate clearly.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re:
Because the students, parents, and teachers sure has hell didn’t. Of course they’re the victims with no power so screw them and sacrifice a scapegoat to appease the short attention span public and media.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
[ link to this | view in thread ]
That the superintendent looks only kinda sorta maybe just a tiny bit repentant because of the reaction to this "drill" shows a whole new level of being woefully obtuse.
That she used the word "regret" instead of something like "shocked," even though both are pretty much PR speak, shows a ridiculous lack of judgment when someone in her position really should know better.
That she seems convinced that this was a mere procedural mistake that could be remedied by the introduction of new rules, instead of reconsidering the sanity of having such a "drill" at all, shows a silly appeal to authority in the sense of telling everyone to calm the fuck down, because she knows how to make things better.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: attitude change
[ link to this | view in thread ]
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: Re: School Shootings In The US Are NOT Incredibly Rare
There .. we had one :)
IMO, comparing apples to oranges is pointless. This is about American police and American schools.
-- but here's some random thoughts since you brought it up --
To maybe give some insight into why we've only had one school shooting (that we know of), NZ does not have a gun culture, or a "constitution" with the "right to carry arms", nor "stand your ground" or "open carry" etc - plus gun checks and licenses are stringent. For sure we have guns (farmers for shooting rabbits, gangs etc), but I can honestly say that 95% of the population doesn't have any firearms and wouldn't even know how to use them - and those that do, the range/types are limited (I don't know any figures but its strictly controlled - eg automatic/assault etc - anything like that would be a collector's item only). And there are checks to make sure guns are locked away, unloaded, triggers removed etc - you lose your license otherwise - and yes it happens). I mean, FFS, even the police don't carry guns (AFAIK, most/all squad cars will have some in their car boots, locked up. in fact, i think only the supervisors/commanders have them - not all cars). And these only come out if needed. Additionally, we have AOS (armed offenders squads) for this sort of thing - that's right, our police call on specialized and trained squads if they need guns.
In short, NZ does not have an *attitude* about guns, or a gun culture of any sort. By *attitude* I mean the tired old tropes about guns needed for protection, armed teachers would be able to save the day, guns don't kill people, it's my right to bear arms so I will to show I'm American, and a thousand other excuses that seem to be ingrained as truth (no offense intended). Sure we have armed holdups and deaths from guns (robberies, gangs), but very few, and dare I say it we probably have a better detection and support system to deal with the mentally ill (but nothing is ever perfect), which is usually the cause of these mass shootings.
On the flip side .. stabbings, beatings to death with sheep legs, and hobbit-missile launches may be higher (per capita) .. who knows.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Worst school massacre in 1927
http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2012/12/18/bath_school_bombing_remembering_the_deadliest_school _massacre_in_american.html
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Great way to train them to be victims
If we grant that premise for the purpose of argument, then in addition to recognizing that it trains police, we must recognize that it also trains staff, faculty -- and students.
And what does it train them?
It trains them that a group of heavily-armed men wearing uniforms and full combat gear and pointing loaded weapons at them are (putatively) The Good Guys.
Which will not work out well when one day The Bad Guys avail themselves of the nearest military surplus store and show up looking and acting exactly like The Good Guys. How is a middle school student, or for that matter, an adult, to discern the difference?
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Every officer needs to be fired then deported or put in jail.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Exactly my thoughts, and the feeling i know thats behind them in conjuction to whats being discussed
You're not alone
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: Home of the Brave
Where freedom goes to die
[ link to this | view in thread ]
I was just looking into the use of live ammo in these "training exercises". Seems there have been a few tragic events where one cop shot another.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: Re: attitude change
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: Re: Re:
They were pathetic. The city finally dropped the contract with them and made one with the county instead. Many of the officers were laid off. A few of the good ones managed to get a job with the county but most of the bad ones are gone for good.
In the first couple months they cracked down on 3 teams of home invasion specialists and put them all away. They started busting drug dealers next. And I haven't really seen a lot of traffic stops anymore (they are not really that necessary where I live because most people drive OK).
So, there is a way and it can work.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re:
If they want to practice what to do during a school shooting - do that on Saturday. There is absolutely no benefit to having scared children around during this training. Even unarmed, having a group of police officers running through your school kicking doors open seems like a rather dumb thing to do.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: (gun safety)
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: Re: School Shootings In The US Are NOT Incredibly Rare
Certainly. Some percentage of the population are okay with using guns as offensive weapons against innocent civilians. New Zealanders probably have the same problem though their deranged lunatics are likely forced to use knives and such instead.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Zero Tolerance?
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: Re:
THIS IS NOT COMBAT! This is a fucking school with kids in it! These fucktards have no business "training" for "combat" in our schools.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: Re:
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: Zero Tolerance?
If a teacher can look at a pop tart in the shape of a gun and get scared, how is it that they see a real one, and nothing happens?
[ link to this | view in thread ]
A major with the Nazi SS admitted at the Nuremberg trials that – under orders from the chief of the Gestapo – he and some other Nazi operatives faked attacks on their own people and resources which they blamed on the Poles, to justify the invasion of Poland. Nazi general Franz Halder also testified at the Nuremberg trials that Nazi leader Hermann Goering admitted to setting fire to the German parliament building, and then falsely blaming the communists for the arson
Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev admitted in writing that the Soviet Union’s Red Army shelled the Russian village of Mainila in 1939, and declared that the fire originated from Finland as a basis launching the Winter War four days later
Israel admits that an Israeli terrorist cell operating in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including U.S. diplomatic facilities, then left behind “evidence” implicating the Arabs as the culprits (one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to identify the bombers, and several of the Israelis later confessed) (and see this and this)
The CIA admits that it hired Iranians in the 1950′s to pose as Communists and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its democratically-elected prime minister
The former Italian Prime Minister, an Italian judge, and the former head of Italian counterintelligence admit that NATO, with the help of the Pentagon and CIA, carried out terror bombings in Italy and other European countries in the 1950s and blamed the communists, in order to rally people’s support for their governments in Europe in their fight against communism. As one participant in this formerly-secret program stated: “You had to attack civilians, people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public, to turn to the state to ask for greater security” (and see this)(Italy and other European countries subject to the terror campaign had joined NATO before the bombings occurred). And watch this BBC special
As admitted by the U.S. government, recently declassified documents show that in the 1960′s, the American Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on a plan to blow up AMERICAN airplanes (using an elaborate plan involving the switching of airplanes), and also to commit terrorist acts on American soil, and then to blame it on the Cubans in order to justify an invasion of Cuba. See the following ABC news report; the official documents; and watch this interview with the former Washington Investigative Producer for ABC’s World News Tonight with Peter Jennings.
2 years before, American Senator George Smathers had suggested that the U.S. make “a false attack made on Guantanamo Bay which would give us the excuse of actually fomenting a fight which would then give us the excuse to go in and [overthrow Castro]“.
And Official State Department documents show that – only nine months before the Joint Chiefs of Staff plan was proposed – the head of the Joint Chiefs and other high-level officials discussed blowing up a consulate in the Dominican Republic in order to justify an invasion of that country. The 3 plans were not carried out, but they were all discussed as serious proposals
The South African Truth and Reconciliation Council found that, in 1989, the Civil Cooperation Bureau (a covert branch of the South African Defense Force) approached an explosives expert and asked him “to participate in an operation aimed at discrediting the ANC [the African National Congress] by bombing the police vehicle of the investigating officer into the murder incident”, thus framing the ANC for the bombing
An Algerian diplomat and several officers in the Algerian army admit that, in the 1990s, the Algerian army frequently massacred Algerian civilians and then blamed Islamic militants for the killings (and see this video; and Agence France-Presse, 9/27/2002, French Court Dismisses Algerian Defamation Suit Against Author)
Senior Russian Senior military and intelligence officers admit that the KGB blew up Russian apartment buildings and falsely blamed it on Chechens, in order to justify an invasion of Chechnya (and see this report and this discussion)
According to the Washington Post, Indonesian police admit that the Indonesian military killed American teachers in Papua in 2002 and blamed the murders on a Papuan separatist group in order to get that group listed as a terrorist organization.
The well-respected former Indonesian president also admits that the government probably had a role in the Bali bombings
As reported by BBC, the New York Times, and Associated Press, Macedonian officials admit that the government murdered 7 innocent immigrants in cold blood and pretended that they were Al Qaeda soldiers attempting to assassinate Macedonian police, in order to join the “war on terror”.
Although the FBI now admits that the 2001 anthrax attacks were carried out by one or more U.S. government scientists, a senior FBI official says that the FBI was actually told to blame the Anthrax attacks on Al Qaeda by White House officials (remember what the anthrax letters looked like). Government officials also confirm that the white House tried to link the anthrax to Iraq as a justification for regime change in that country
Former Department of Justice lawyer John Yoo suggested in 2005 that the US should go on the offensive against al-Qaeda, having “our intelligence agencies create a false terrorist organization. It could have its own websites, recruitment centers, training camps, and fundraising operations. It could launch fake terrorist operations and claim credit for real terrorist strikes, helping to sow confusion within al-Qaeda’s ranks, causing operatives to doubt others’ identities and to question the validity of communications.”
United Press International reported in June 2005:
U.S. intelligence officers are reporting that some of the insurgents in Iraq are using recent-model Beretta 92 pistols, but the pistols seem to have had their serial numbers erased. The numbers do not appear to have been physically removed; the pistols seem to have come off a production line without any serial numbers. Analysts suggest the lack of serial numbers indicates that the weapons were intended for intelligence operations or terrorist cells with substantial government backing. Analysts speculate that these guns are probably from either Mossad or the CIA. Analysts speculate that agent provocateurs may be using the untraceable weapons even as U.S. authorities use insurgent attacks against civilians as evidence of the illegitimacy of the resistance.
Undercover Israeli soldiers admitted in 2005 to throwing stones at other Israeli soldiers so they could blame it on Palestinians, as an excuse to crack down on peaceful protests by the Palestinians
Quebec police admitted that, in 2007, thugs carrying rocks to a peaceful protest were actually undercover Quebec police officers (and see this)
At the G20 protests in London in 2009, a British member of parliament saw plain clothes police officers attempting to incite the crowd to violence
A Colombian army colonel has admitted that his unit murdered 57 civilians, then dressed them in uniforms and claimed they were rebels killed in combat
U.S. soldiers have admitted that if they kill innocent Iraqis and Afghanis, they then “drop” automatic weapons near their body so they can pretend they were militants
The highly-respected writer for the Telegraph Ambrose Evans-Pritchard says that the head of Saudi intelligence – Prince Bandar – admitted last the Saudi government controls “Chechen” terrorists
So Common … There’s a Name for It
This tactic is so common that it was given a name for hundreds of years ago.
“False flag terrorism” is defined as a government attacking its own people, then blaming others in order to justify going to war against the people it blames. Or as Wikipedia defines it:
False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to appear as if they are being carried out by other entities. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one’s own. False flag operations are not limited to war and counter-insurgency operations, and have been used in peace-time; for example, during Italy’s strategy of tension.
The term comes from the old days of wooden ships, when one ship would hang the flag of its enemy before attacking another ship in its own navy. Because the enemy’s flag, instead of the flag of the real country of the attacking ship, was hung, it was called a “false flag” attack.
Indeed, this concept is so well-accepted that rules of engagement for naval, air and land warfare all prohibit false flag attacks.
Leaders Throughout History Have Acknowledged False Flags
Leaders throughout history have acknowledged the danger of false flags:
“This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector.”
- Plato
“If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.”
- U.S. President James Madison
“A history of false flag attacks used to manipulate the minds of the people! “In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations, and epochs it is the rule.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche
“Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death”.
- Adolph Hitler
“Why of course the people don’t want war … But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship … Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
- Hermann Goering, Nazi leader.
“The easiest way to gain control of a population is to carry out acts of terror. [The public] will clamor for such laws if their personal security is threatened”.
- Josef Stalin
People Are Waking Up to False Flags
People are slowly waking up to this whole con job by governments who want to justify war.
More people are talking about the phrase “false flag” than ever before.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Likewise, growing up in the 1970s, I thought that quicksand would be a much bigger problem than it turned out to be.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: Re: Re:
[ link to this | view in thread ]
organized terrorists
[ link to this | view in thread ]
What are the police to do now?
Here's an idea.
Have police perform their un-announced, anti-terrorist swat drills at their local city halls. Time these drills to co-incide with council meetings, so that commissioners can praise the police for their precision and professionalism they showed while securing council chambers and meeting halls.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
nothing will happen
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re:
[ link to this | view in thread ]
The proposed limits would have you exclude incidents where no one who goes to the school is involved but I think parents would disagree with that.
That said what this school did was insane.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: nothing will happen
You should never try to predict the actions of people who vehemently disagree with established truths.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: Re: Zero Tolerance?
http://www.sltrib.com/news/1689531-155/ferguson-montgomery-toilet-district-documents-gun
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: What are the police to do now?
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re:
Explain? Or, fuck off and die if that works better for you. Whatever. No pressure.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: I don't believe
Ever thought you would see that on Techdirt, a site which has built a reputation over the years for its meticulous research into empirical facts as opposed to relying on preconception and prejudice?
Yet it seems for all your expertise on matters copyright and patent, you are just as badly afflicted by the US national blind spot on the dangers of guns.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: Re: Re: Zero Tolerance?
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re:
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: Re: School Shootings In The US Are NOT Incredibly Rare
An airlocked reception area where people have to check in before entering the building would probably prevent another shooting, there's no need for guns in the classroom.
[ link to this | view in thread ]