UK Bill: Nursery Staff Must Let Us Know When Toddlers Are At Risk For Becoming Terrorists
from the er,-what? dept
Spying is just all the rage these days, you guys. The CIA is spying on Congress, we're all spying on each other, our eBook readers are spying on all our stuff, and the NSA is spying on the entire world. If you've been following Techdirt for any measure of time, you realize that any rebuttal of these policies is occasionally met with safety concerns, specifically when it comes to kids. "Think of the children!"
No, seriously, think of them. What if they are the real threat to the glory of freedom and peace? Well, the UK is taking this question head on by asking caregivers in the country's nurseries to inform the government if any of those little shits look like they're going to become radicalized.
The directive is contained in a 39-page consultation document issued by the Home Office in a bid to bolster its Prevent anti-terrorism plan. The document accompanies the Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill, currently before parliament. It identifies nurseries and early years childcare providers, along with schools and universities, as having a duty “to prevent people being drawn into terrorism”.Oh, this should go well. Turning nurseries into tiny little spy centers where the staff are required to inform the state if they think that any children might become radicalized in the future sounds like a foolproof plan. Hey, Marge, do you think little Tommy might be a suicide bomber in the future. "No." What about cute little Jenny? "Nah." Okay, next we have to ask about sweet little Usman Jaffer? "IT'S HIM! IT'S HIM! I DONT' KNOW WHY, BUT I'M SURE IT'S HIM!"
The consultation paper adds: “Senior management and governors should make sure that staff have training that gives them the knowledge and confidence to identify children at risk of being drawn into terrorism and challenge extremist ideas which can be used to legitimise terrorism and are shared by terrorist groups.
Critics of the law, including some within the government, are equally unimpressed.
David Davis, the Conservative MP and former shadow home secretary, said: “It is hard to see how this can be implemented. It is unworkable. I have to say I cannot understand what they [nursery staff] are expected to do.No kidding. As far as silly government requests of civilians went, I thought Chicago's "If you see something suspicious on public transportation, tell someone." campaign was as bad as it got. I mean, have they never ridden a CTA bus or train? Everyone's suspicious looking. But to try to get nannies involved in the spy game? C'mon guys, dial back the crazy a few notches.
“Are they supposed to report some toddler who comes in praising a preacher deemed to be extreme? I don’t think so. It is heavy-handed.”
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Terrorist On Time Out.
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A nanny state is exactly what is being requested by the people.
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Report the Toddler
I should like to report a toddler that has some weird tendencies. He seems to be schizophrenic, sometimes going by the name Timothy Geigner, and sometimes by the name Tim Cushing, as you can see he is very confused. He also uses two different aliases, Dark Helmet and Capitalist Lion Tamer (talk about weird, huh?). In both cases (er...personalities) he suggests that [REDACTED] is evil. Since most of what he (er they) talk about IS evil, then he or they must BE evil.
I am hoping that you may take care of this (these) potential terrorists before they actually graduate from Kindergarten as he (they) will be doubly (quadrupaly?) dangerous in the first grade.
Yours Truly,
Mike Streisand Effect Masnick
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ideas
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Fans of James over Thomas?
Kermit over Fozzie?
Kids who LIKE vegetables?
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Kids who believe lieing in politics is unacceptable
Kids who think secret spying governments are unacceptable
Kids who care for ALL life
Kids who believe we are all equal
Kids who believe laws are'nt suppose to be bought
Kids who exibit any signs of a caring sharing nature, instead of a profit orientated nature
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Enough!
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Well I don't know why I came here tonight,
I got the feeling that something ain't right
Im scared incase i fall off my chair,
And I'm wondering how I'll get down the stairs,
Terrorists to the left of me,
Terrorists to the right, here I am,
Stuck in the middle with you.
Bemusement aside i sure hope i dont get techdirt in trouble with the big bad powerful mpaa by using the letters abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
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You've got those terrorist that gained independance from the british and created that thing thats suppose to give people more rights then they deserve
And we had that spout of terrorists that one time that someohow managed to put the notion into peoples minds that we are all equal regardless of skin
These terrorists are always fucking up our shit
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Prevent what?
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Baby Terrorists!
Or the time a plane kicked a baby off for saying "bye bye plane" repeatedly! Obviously the baby was making terrorist threats!
We never know when babies might be plotting to kill us all in a suicide attack! Don't be fooled by those innocent looking eyes, behind them might lurk another evil terrorist!
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December: Kids in the UK to learn a valuable lesson: Santa loves rich kids more.
January: The UK government suspects kids of becoming terrorists.
Well of course.
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Terrorist toddlers
I suspect that if you start treating them as terrorists early enough that they will become one just to take revenge on you.
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If he's on the NYPD her earlier prediction of "international terrorist" might still be accurate.
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Sometimes you have to settle for what the market has to offer. At least in this profession he should be able to make good use of his skill set.
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Profound statement is profound, which leads me to think whether they already know that or are just stupid
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I can see it now.....
Govt: What makes you think that?
Care Giver: He was pointing his half eaten PopTart at other kids saying pew, pew, pew!
Govt: This is very troubling behaviour!
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Brilliant!
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With idiots like this thinking this is a good policy to implement, is it any wonder why so much of the world is in turmoil and how much of it is a direct result of just such mentality?
If ever there was proof that the whole government, much less the security side needs reigned in, this should be the wake up call. China's actions in dealing with it's population are seeming less and less strange given the actions of our perspective governments.
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Did I miss something here?
That's why nature evolved them to have weak limbs. They grow strong only once they are old enough to have had a reasonable chance of becoming responsible. There are ages of legal responsibility (and according reductions of parental governing responsibility) and of consent.
Now of course it is understandable that the UK wants to have a close look at who might grow up to retain antisocial behavior, a dysfunctional conscience, blind faith in authority figures and other signs of mental immaturity. Which government wouldn't?
Just to call dibs on their recruitment. Not everybody is suitable for operating drones (killer and spy drones), wiretapping equipment and other stuff the government needs done on people suspected to have cheered the wrong side.
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Preying on impressionable minds in order to be the one that "educates" on how things "should" be according to the almighty master peasant food chain
Its not about terrorisism, its about manipulation of easier to manipulate impressionable minds before they get some sense of independance to have CRITICAL thought, i.e. their dwindling current base
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"Mam, why do you believe the baby is a radical?"
Caregiver
"He said no to the medicine"
Swat team
"You're right mam, clear case of terrorism, nigel, bring some water"
Caregiver
"Oh thankyou Mr Swat man, i cant say how much i respect what you do"
Swat
"Just doing my job mam................MOVE OUT TEAMS G.O.T.Y.R.E.N.T AND S, we've got reports of a todler rampaging a bus.....apparently its got a WMD that creates some sort of annoying crying like sound......westminister is pepering a statement..........GO!GO!GO"
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Radicalization: the deeper problem
"Radicalization" is not only a totally subjective term, but trying to stop it is like trying to cure a cold by taking decongestants. It's treating a symptom rather than the underlying problem, and exacerbated the whole situation by actively hiding the underlying problem, allowing it to spread without anyone noticing.
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You have surpassed us
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Its so they can have a "legal" framework excuse to invade someones life bypasing the rights of an individual thats suppose to prevent them from doing that, without looking like the tyranical government they're becoming.......become?
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Wait, is this really the guidelines from the Ministry of Education?
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If the UK wants to put a stop to this...
I'd bet that program would come to a halt really fast!
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Just Check Medicaid Records
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Of course, it was changed to 'Be Alert, Australia needs more of them'.
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Just so darned easy
Well, it's easy: Muslim!
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A rolemodel
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this WILL BE a self fulfilling prophecy
it WILL create those "terrorists" you want to stop
can you say--" The terrorist known as V "
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You people have completely missed the point!
Just wait, in ten years time, every single person in the country will be on a terrorist watch list so we won't need to fart around with warrants or rights or any of that poofter crap anymore, and you'll all finally be safe forever! Now get back to work and stop bugging, er, bothering us.
PS. Tim, April Fools is almost three months away, damnit!
Sheesh. Try to do the right thing and look what you get.
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The government here actually make me want to become a terrorist. Esp. with the anti-freedom crap they pull.
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http://ukhumanrightsblog.com/2015/01/08/paris-attacks-show-need-to-scrap-human-rights-act-says- tory-mp-with-no-understanding-of-the-human-rights-act/
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Toddler won't go to bed? He's a terrorist.
Toddler being loud and obnoxious? He's a terrorist...
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