News Corp. Sends DMCA Notice Over Glenn Greenwald Trashing The Sunday Times' Ridiculous Snowden Story
from the yeah,-that's-convincing dept
We already wrote this morning about the ridiculous claims by The Sunday Times that Snowden's documents had been either given to the Russians and Chinese or that they had cracked the encryption to get them -- and that, because of this, the UK had to move intelligence "agents" out of Moscow for their safety. We pointed to numerous problems with the article, including many direct factual mistakes. One of the links we pointed to was Glenn Greenwald himself challenging many of the claims in the Sunday Times. This included highlighting the flat out lie that David Miranda was detained in Heathrow after visiting Snowden in Moscow (a claim the Sunday Times later simply deleted, with no correction or retraction).Many people have been asking if the Sunday Times will say anything about the myriad problems with the article, and we now finally have a response. And it's... to send a DMCA takedown notice to Greenwald's publisher, First Look Media, claiming that, because he posted an image of the Sunday Times' front page layout, he is violating their copyright. Here's the section of Greenwald's article the Times (really, Times Newspapers Limited, a subsidiary of News UK, which is a subsidiary of News Corp) is complaining about:
We write on behalf of Times Newspapers Limited (TNL) the publishers of The Times and The Sunday Times. TNL owns the copyright in the typographical arrangement of the front page of The Sunday Times published on 14 June 2015 (Material). The Material is an original work created by employees of TNL. A copy of the Material is enclosed.Later, it notes:
A copy of the Material appears [on First Look's website] under the headline "THE SUNDAY TIMES' SNOWDEN STORY IS JOURNALISM AT ITS WORST -- AND FILLED WITH FALSEHOODS" (Infringing Content). The Infringing Content has been reproduced, communicated to the public and published onto the Website without TNL's permission and as such infringes the intellectual property rights of TNL....
... we have a good-faith belief that the use is not authorized by the copyright or other intellectual property rights owner, by its agent, or by law...To put it mildly: this is ridiculous. Of course it's authorized by law, and that law is fair use. The UK may not have fair use, but the US does, and First Look is a US publication. The use above clearly and easily is fair use -- so much so that the lawyer for News Corp pretending otherwise is either the worst lawyer ever, or is being deliberately disingenuous with this threat letter.
Even more to the point: how could anyone at News Corp not realize how this would end up? There was no way that such a letter would have the intended purpose of taking down the content and the only thing it could do would be to draw extra attention to the fact that News Corp is trying to censor one of the people forcefully criticizing its ridiculous article, and highlighting what it got wrong. And, thus, the end result is further ridicule for News Corp, and further reasons to question the credibility of the Sunday Times.
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Filed Under: censorship, copyright, dmca, ed snowden, glenn greenwald, sunday times
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Forget me (a lot)
Obviously, they want to be forgotten.
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Reply
we refer you the reply given in the matter of arkell v pressdram.
Sincerely yours
Lynn
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How do they not think that this argument is going to get thrown back at them every time they publish an image of anything covered by copyright?
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The Sunday times paywall for those who like to be lied to in an exclusive manner manner.
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Sunday Times has solidified their reputation as another unethical propaganda machine for the tories, they gained during the phone hacking scandal...
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No Responsibility
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The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about
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There's no downside here for the Sunday Times. It's just more clicks, more attention, more revenue. It was an idiot article to begin with and it got a massive response. Mucho cliques, caching caching. Everybody’s smiling. When you’ve got a good thing going, you milk it. A threatening letter from a lawyer, that's the ticket. Better yet a stupid threatening letter from a lawyer. So what if they look like idiots. Everybody already knew they were idiots. But caching caching, stupid like a fox. All the way to the bank.
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Streisand...Streisand.....Streisand
"Streisand......Streisand.....Streisand....
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And with this...
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MAD Magaine got it right
By now we should all recognize that any News Corp organ is a joke, right up there with the National Enquirer and the SUN. "NEWS" and "Truth" has little to do with it.
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Take it down "becuz butt hurt"...
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Does anyone consider the OPM Breach
Perhaps some of their assets had information that was actually compromised?
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Re: Does anyone consider the OPM Breach
Just blame it all on Snowden!!
After all, the USG has already shown that its willing to leak its own documents and then blame it on Snowden, in the hopes of making the US public think Snowden is a villain.
If they just stop reporting on the OPM breach altogether, and flood the Truth Free Press with stories about Bad Snowden Dunnit, pretty soon the US Public will start to think Snowden is responsible for all the damage that has been and will be caused by the OPM security failure.
Even better, would be an Address To the Nation by the Resident Select POTUS Barracks O-bomber, explaining how Snowden's Expose of Secret Government Documents has completely compromised National Security and is the cause of all past, current and future security breaches.
They always believe the Resident Select, cuz he is the Chosen of Gawd!
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Doh!!
That's easy.
Like the North American Postal Services, News Corp makes all of its prospective employees fill out an IQ test.
And like the North American Postal Services, any prospective News Corp employee who fails the News Corp IQ test is immediately hired by News Corp.
And, the more spectacularly one fails the test, the higher the pay grade one receives upon being hired.
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